Missouri Says No To Obama Healthcare

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The leading Senate candidates and a health care ballot measure each scored resounding victories Tuesday in Missouri's primary elections, capturing more than 70 percent of the vote.
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VCDaedalus

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Aug 9, 2010
 
Ender wrote:
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Okay, I have to take a break from ripping into you and honestly say that I laughed out loud, reading how you re-worded what I really said. I will concede that, for one to have written THAT, one would have to be either very intelligent or very witty.
Okay, now back to bashing each other! So what is up with the whole "(Edited for clarity)" thing? Does that mean you cussed me out, or that the monitoring folks disagreed with you so much, they wouldn't let it post? I still think you work at a video store, but now it looks like you've let it out that you're a girl. That doesn't mean I have to be nice to you, does it?
I typed in the phrase "(Edited for clarity.)" myself. The moderators had nothing to do with it. Are you being coy or are you really stupid?

I was merely doing the best I could to clearly convey what you were actually saying, fractured English and all.

Tell me about your video store fantasy. I'm sure it's very interesting.
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VCDaedalus wrote:
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I typed in the phrase "(Edited for clarity.)" myself. The moderators had nothing to do with it. Are you being coy or are you really stupid?
I was merely doing the best I could to clearly convey what you were actually saying, fractured English and all.
Tell me about your video store fantasy. I'm sure it's very interesting.
You are pure evil. I should have known you were a woman. A pure, evil woman...whom I'm now thinking works in an adult video store! I don't know, having trouble being mean to you now. Not because you're a woman, but because you're hilarious when you're not being a complete arse.
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King Kong wrote:
Obamaswhoremammy im not too hip on the voting process. Should I vote all the republirats in or vote all the scum out. Around here in Il you usually have one name and they are always demoncrat should I just leave it blank help me out educated voters!
Not to dog on you, King Kong, but I think your best bet is to move to a state where people can give you directions using street names instead of land marks to get you where you need to go. "Turn left at the third fire hydrant, then you go right at the big tree that got hit by lightning last year". Either that or run for office, which is a giant pain, even in IL.
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Rush, Beck, Bill and Sarah are Brilliant in that they can engage in a marketing scheme and generate Millions..... each to the man profits from the race baiting performed on their shows and in books... to the tune of more than 30 Million a year...... That's not small cheeze for recovering druggies.....

Everything sales in America if packaged right...... hatred and race baiting is a top seller..... watch how much these Salesmen rack in on the Arizona Hispanic Codes.....
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Those are Rush Limbaugh's words. You can always tell who listens to Rush by the words they and phrases they use; Nazi feminism, psychobabble, flip flop, sycophants, socialism, rogue, militant, patriot ......Limbaugh spews this crap everyday and his listeners think he is intelligent and copy his phrases. Limbuagh is an entertainer who has been gifted with an ability to arouse intense hatred and fear with using words out of context. Fot the past 20 years he has singly handedly divided this country by party lines. And he is laughing all the way to the bank.

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It's funny to have a few people here stating FACTS and those who are ignorant to this entire healthcare attempt to debate it with things they have heard only assuming it to be so horrible. You can't argue with facts. The bill isn't THAT bad, at all. I was against it until I read it. Stop listening to your friends and get a mind of your own.

READ THE BILL &

and then THE CONSTITUTION.

This entire vote was pointless. State law never overrides Federal law. And Prop C was put on there just to get you all riled up again; it worked. Sheeple.

However, I appreciate the amusement...
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Devin wrote:
Rush, Beck, Bill and Sarah are Brilliant in that they can engage in a marketing scheme and generate Millions..... each to the man profits from the race baiting performed on their shows and in books... to the tune of more than 30 Million a year...... That's not small cheeze for recovering druggies.....
Everything sales in America if packaged right...... hatred and race baiting is a top seller..... watch how much these Salesmen rack in on the Arizona Hispanic Codes.....
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As I learned in a graduate level Logic course in college, an argument has significantly more power to pursuade if it is based on LOGIC.

Example:

The gubbermint never accomplishes a function efficiently or within budget.

The gubbermint will be given the function of managing health care.

THEREFORE

The management of healthcare will be inefficient and costly.

See how that works? That's why liberal talk radio shows have never succeeded while numerous conservatives have: the liberal philosophy DOES NOT HOLD UP to argument. The more you discuss liberalism, the less sense it makes.

The best a liberal can do is retort with ad hominem insults and baseless claims. And those melt within 5 minutes in the light of day.

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Someones Hero wrote:
It's funny to have a few people here stating FACTS and those who are ignorant to this entire healthcare attempt to debate it with things they have heard only assuming it to be so horrible. You can't argue with facts. The bill isn't THAT bad, at all. I was against it until I read it. Stop listening to your friends and get a mind of your own.
READ THE BILL &
and then THE CONSTITUTION.
This entire vote was pointless. State law never overrides Federal law. And Prop C was put on there just to get you all riled up again; it worked. Sheeple.
However, I appreciate the amusement...
Then I guess you see nothing wrong with value based medical care or do you even know what that means?

If no Let me fill you in.

Value based Health Care is medical care given to those who will recover sufficiently to return to work. if a person is in their 70s and they need a hip replacement, cancer treatment or heart surgery and after their procedure are unable to return to work guess what? They do not get the medical care they need and why? The procedure is too expensive to be wasted on a person whose health is only going to continue to get worse and will die shortly. that money could be better spent on a younger person who after they recover from the procedure can return to work. It also allows for assisted suicide. This would allow a medical practitioner to kill any patient they feel will be a continued burden on our society by simply convincing the patient that they and their family would be better off if they were DEAD.

You think I am lying or joking around. I've seen it happen within the Department Of Veterans Affairs Medical system. I've seen nurses inject Veterans with insulin or degoxin to kill them simply because the Veteran's condition used up too much of their time. Time they felt would be better used treating other Veterans or because they needed the bed space.

Then there is the fine part when a person refuses or fails to get health insurance. We are locking people up now for NOT having auto insurance what is going to stop the government from locking people up for NOT having Health Insurance?

Then there is the fact that this law will only help 3to 6% of the uninsured Americans. Over 80% of Americans have good health coverage. It would make more sense to expand the Medicaid rolls to cover those with preexisting conditions and the uninsured. After all wasn't that the original intent behind Medicaid?

This Health Care Laws is a very bad thing and must be stopped at all costs.

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And now - Florida is telling BO to take his federal socialist agenda and stick it up his .....
Passing their own version of the Arizona illegal alien law.

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Continue to work to pay for all the useless eaters in the system. What this amounts to is just patching Whites up enough to get them back to being Corporate slaves so they can continue paying taxes to support all the brown squats destroying America.
I agree but where I'm from there are alot of white squats who are abusing the system too. I live in redneckville, MO, the center of the Ozarks.
VCDaedalus

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You are pure evil. I should have known you were a woman. A pure, evil woman...whom I'm now thinking works in an adult video store! I don't know, having trouble being mean to you now. Not because you're a woman, but because you're hilarious when you're not being a complete arse.
I just marvel at your fecund imagination and inflamed wen of victimization.

Some woman must have pointed at you and laughed, is that it? You think I'm a woman too?
Ender

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VCDaedalus wrote:
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I just marvel at your fecund imagination and inflamed wen of victimization.
Some woman must have pointed at you and laughed, is that it? You think I'm a woman too?
When you re-wrote my attack on you, you referred to yourself as "she".
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Those people without insurance are costing us money - make them pay up... Oh no, wait a minute, we don't want to force them to buy insurance. Make up your minds will ya!
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GetALife wrote:
Those people without insurance are costing us money - make them pay up... Oh no, wait a minute, we don't want to force them to buy insurance. Make up your minds will ya!
Question: Do you believe the 12 million to 20 million illegals in our country and prisons here will buy insurance?

Yes?
No?

Will they return to Mexico for their treatments?

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

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Question: Do you believe the 12 million to 20 million illegals in our country and prisons here will buy insurance?
Yes?
No?
No entiendo seņor seguros.

Obama will give them free health insurance.
Devin

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Aug 14, 2010
 
The inefficiencies in Government exist to hide the looting of the Nation's Wealth.... if there were some accountability in Government how can I charge $600.00 for a Toilet Seat?$3000.00 for a Hammer? Thank good for the inefficiencies that exist, if I were made to pay taxes on profits generated oversea how could I acquire Wealth?

But,

I don't understand the correlation between the profiteers of Race Baiting, Beck, Limbaugh, Palin and O'Reily in Ameican earning $30 Million annually..... From mostly people like you?
Stoneman wrote:
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As I learned in a graduate level Logic course in college, an argument has significantly more power to pursuade if it is based on LOGIC.
Example:
The gubbermint never accomplishes a function efficiently or within budget.
The gubbermint will be given the function of managing health care.
THEREFORE
The management of healthcare will be inefficient and costly.
See how that works? That's why liberal talk radio shows have never succeeded while numerous conservatives have: the liberal philosophy DOES NOT HOLD UP to argument. The more you discuss liberalism, the less sense it makes.
The best a liberal can do is retort with ad hominem insults and baseless claims. And those melt within 5 minutes in the light of day.

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

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Devin wrote:
The inefficiencies in Government exist to hide the looting of the Nation's Wealth.... if there were some accountability in Government how can I charge $600.00 for a Toilet Seat?$3000.00 for a Hammer? Thank good for the inefficiencies that exist, if I were made to pay taxes on profits generated oversea how could I acquire Wealth?
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I think you have it backwards.

Government is so bloated and confused that it invites $600 toilet seats or all sorts of wasteful spending by the lib academics and others.
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Chicago Guy wrote:
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Why should he have taken marching orders from the party that LOST???
Obama ran on healthcare reform as his central domestic policy issue... and he delivered. No one expected the conservatives to like it.
But how do you propose to win the Presidency again??? You have lost the hispanic vote (the fastest growing) for a generation. You've alienated blacks even further. You've split your own party to such a degree that one is either a Tea Bagger or a RINO... and Tea Baggers cannot win national office. They're just too extreme for average folk.
Look at Nevada. Sharon Angle is getting her **** handed to her... by Harry Reid!!! What conservative would've said he had an iceberg's chance in hell a year ago?
Rand Paul is imploding in Kentucky, after being up 20 points.
Those two seats alone are enough to insure the GOP won't win control of the Senate this year.
And after you've alienated half the voters in America, and split the other half into RINOS and True Conservatives.... WHO will you possibly run that can beat Obama??
Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney? Tim Pawlent? Bobby Jindal? Newt Gingrich?
Gimme a break!!
But he won't have the ACORN bring the dead back to vote - because the ACORN IS GONE NOW. The dead that voted over and over is what put him in office and the tenny boppers that are only book smart that has never had a day of work put him in office because of his silver tongue and his promise of change - WELL HE GAVE CHANGE - HE TOOK OUR DOLLARS JUST LIKE A SOCIALIST WOULD DO AND GAVE US PENNIES IN OUR POCKETS.
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Devin wrote:
The inefficiencies in Government exist to hide the looting of the Nation's Wealth.... if there were some accountability in Government how can I charge $600.00 for a Toilet Seat?$3000.00 for a Hammer? Thank good for the inefficiencies that exist, if I were made to pay taxes on profits generated oversea how could I acquire Wealth?
But,
I don't understand the correlation between the profiteers of Race Baiting, Beck, Limbaugh, Palin and O'Reily in Ameican earning $30 Million annually..... From mostly people like you?
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I'm delighted that we agree that gubbermint funding needs to be slashed across the board-- take 50% from ALL budgets. No more subsidies. No more grants. No more federal underwriting of loans, no more bailouts, no more NOTHING. No school lunches. No Department of Education, for that matter.

When the federal gubbermint is operating on a shoestring and all programs are funded and managed at the state level, we will have marked improvement in efficiency.

As for "race baiting", what are you talking about? Is that like when Maxine Waters alleges that the ethics charges against her are racially based? Or when Lord Obama accuses the Cambridge Police of acting "stupidly" when trying to manage a black professor? What EXACTLY has Limbaugh said that you regard as "race baiting".

Be specific. I wouldn't want you to make a stupid, baseless ad hominem attack on him or something.

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