Last-minute fiscal cliff talks in Senate

Last-minute fiscal cliff talks in Senate

There are 51 comments on the Yahoo! story from Dec 30, 2012, titled Last-minute fiscal cliff talks in Senate. In it, Yahoo! reports that:

Obama chastised lawmakers in his weekly radio and Internet address for waiting until the last minute to try and avoid a "fiscal cliff," yet said there was still time for an agreement.

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Brad

Manchester, CT

#43 Dec 31, 2012
Wall Street Government wrote:
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As you regurgitate last nights splooge and teabagger drivel.
Who cares what you think or say, they don't need a rerun of Rannity or Limbaughtomy.
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George Bush--Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
Poor illiterate teabagger.
.“The most important lesson I’ve learned is you can’t change Washington from the inside. You can only change it from the outside.”
Oblamer quote.

Hes admitted hes powerless to do anything in the office of President,so why not effect that change from the only place he says its possible,the outside?
Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, TX

#44 Dec 31, 2012
Bring on the cliff.

The whole point of the fiscal cliff is when the fiscal cliff is cleared and we jump over it, we are getting rid of all the accounting gimmicks, the temporary stings of things that allow Congress to pretend it's being fiscally responsible when it's not.

A lot of taxes will go up but taxes will go up on everybody, not injure the guy around the tree that's paying for everything but everyone will have to pay. And then folks will realize the government we are voting for costs us money too.

Trillion dollars deficits every year as far as the eye can see, that's a tax on our kids, our grandchildren, on people who have saved their whole lives and done the responsible things.

The liberals feel like they can have all this spending but not pay for it themselves. So I think going over the fiscal cliff, at least, we are all sharing in the responsibility of paying for the big government we seem to want.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#45 Dec 31, 2012
The problem with the "1%" argument is that there are a whoooooole lot of over 250,000 oners who did not inherit their position, they earned it.

And a whooooole lot of the "99%" who could be millionaires but were simply too lazy to dedicate themselves to making the sacrifices to educate and advance their desires.

There's far too many minority lawyers, doctors and ceo's to blame race as a hinderance to advancement. Those who wanted it found a f'ing way to do it, didn't they?

Hanging out on the street corner, working a 9-5 job and not having to worry about anything but showing up the next day, druggies, drunks. All personal choices, so shut up about the rich. YOU start your own business you slackers.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#46 Dec 31, 2012
Calling Your Bluff wrote:
Bring on the cliff.
The whole point of the fiscal cliff is when the fiscal cliff is cleared and we jump over it, we are getting rid of all the accounting gimmicks, the temporary stings of things that allow Congress to pretend it's being fiscally responsible when it's not.
A lot of taxes will go up but taxes will go up on everybody, not injure the guy around the tree that's paying for everything but everyone will have to pay. And then folks will realize the government we are voting for costs us money too.
Trillion dollars deficits every year as far as the eye can see, that's a tax on our kids, our grandchildren, on people who have saved their whole lives and done the responsible things.
The liberals feel like they can have all this spending but not pay for it themselves. So I think going over the fiscal cliff, at least, we are all sharing in the responsibility of paying for the big government we seem to want.
So the 53% that pay all the taxes will be paying more,in some way that will be applied to the 47% who contribute nothing to the Fed. tax base?
Guess thats why I'm not a tax attorney?

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#47 Dec 31, 2012
Wall Street Government wrote:
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George couldn't coordinate a grade schoolers birthday party, that's why he failed miserably on 9/11 and every year thereafter.
Invading the wrong country was better than what Clinton did?
Just what a chickenhawk dumbshit teabagger would say.
Poor teabagger.
Bush was very successful after 9/11, and clinton let al queda run wild up to 9/11 (seven months into Bush's 1st term). Eight fkn years of chasing interns, attack Mt. Carmel and Ruby Ridge (Americans) and playing the sax on talk shows to worry about al queda. We paid for it on 9/11. Bush did the work that keeps the terroists attempts to attack the USA in check...nobama is reducing that safety net as fast as possible. Congress agreed with Bush to go into Iraq...including most dems. Then YOU re-elected those bozo's! LMAO

Just what a cowardly fleabag demorat blame gamer would say. Go back to your sandbox and have a rousing game of find your brain, boy.

Since: Aug 10

El Paso, TX

#48 Dec 31, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Demorats are making millions for themselves and the campaign donors now....so what's you fkn point?
Unions kicked millions in to obama...for laws to protect their wealth
Movie stars and celebraties kicked in millions....to protect their wealth from more taxes...Ted Turner and Robert Redford pay little taxes..their "ranches" are organic (LMAO
The list goes on chuckles...and the left are hypocrites.
The democrats play the bribe game, that's the way the system works. Democrats wouldn't ever be elected if they didn't. Any alleged union corruption is a drop in the bucket and it's partisan hackery to focus on that while ignoring the rest. Big money has bought the government. But the GOP is a fully owned subsidiary of corporations. It exists solely for that purpose.
Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, TX

#49 Dec 31, 2012
Brad wrote:
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So the 53% that pay all the taxes will be paying more,in some way that will be applied to the 47% who contribute nothing to the Fed. tax base?
Guess thats why I'm not a tax attorney?
OK, look at this from a different angle;

Why should the "cliff" be avoided?
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#51 Dec 31, 2012
By Bush's own admission, Bin Laden was not a priority after 2002, it was from that point Bin Laden built a compound down the street from the Pakistan Military Academy that Bush funded and bin Laden resided their until President Obama sent Seal Team 6 in on bin Laden.

Bush did absolutely nothing, he allowed Bin Laden to escape Tora Bora when Special Operations Troops had Bin Laden trapped, the Bush administration denied the request for reinforcement troops.
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Your boyfriend the phoney Marine said that "obama was keeping the country safe." LMAO
Examples of Mr. Obama, now in his fourth year as president, adopting Bush-era measures:
Special operations forces. One of the first steps taken by President Bush after Sept. 11 was to revive, fund and expand special operations forces as the dog that would hunt down and kill terrorists.
President Bush also made U.S. Special Operations a war-independent command, just like U.S. Central Command, meaning it could plan and execute its own battle plans.
The U.S. Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), the Army's Delta Force and Navy’s SEAL Team 6 mostly had focused on hostage rescue. After Sept. 11, they started receiving the manpower and intelligence to become manhunters. Their biggest successes: Saddam Hussein; al Qaeda’s top Iraq terrorist, Abu Musab Zarqawi; and Osama bin Laden.
Special Ops/Intelligence. The Bush administration fused commandos with the nation’s intelligence agencies — the CIA, the National Security Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency — into task forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.
President Bush also transferred a highly secretive military intelligence unit, which specialized in technical surveillance and intercepts, to the Joint Special Operations Command so that commandos and intelligence experts could work together directly.
Predator strikes. The Bush administration established Predator drone bases in Pakistan to strike at al Qaeda and Taliban extremists in that country’s frontier badlands, where U.S. ground troops cannot go.
Thanks, President Bush
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#52 Dec 31, 2012
it was 9 months, September 11, 2001. Bush also had Richard Clarke the Clinton Middle East envoy and expert on terrorist in his ear, he choose to ignore Clarke's warning on Al Qaeda attacking on the America soil, and 4000 Americans in New York paid the ultimate price.

Bush governed over the greatest calamity to have occurred in Washington since the British burnt down the white house in 1812 and the pearl harbor attack. yet you classify that as successful?

either you set the bar low...... or you are lying with a case of convenient amnesia.

Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Bush was very successful after 9/11, and clinton let al queda run wild up to 9/11 (seven months into Bush's 1st term). Eight fkn years of chasing interns, attack Mt. Carmel and Ruby Ridge (Americans) and playing the sax on talk shows to worry about al queda. We paid for it on 9/11. Bush did the work that keeps the terroists attempts to attack the USA in check...nobama is reducing that safety net as fast as possible. Congress agreed with Bush to go into Iraq...including most dems. Then YOU re-elected those bozo's! LMAO
Just what a cowardly fleabag demorat blame gamer would say. Go back to your sandbox and have a rousing game of find your brain, boy.
PennyTax

Pottstown, PA

#53 Dec 31, 2012
The focus has gotten stuck on personal income taxes when in fact it should be on the lack of corporate income tax income. Many companies pay little or no income taxes.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-03/thir...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electr...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...

Plug the loopholes in the 15 THOUSAND page tax code and then some you could gain extra income without doing a thing to individuals.

Many of the companies in questions have always held jobs and their potential tax revenue & local economic revenue over someone's head -it's called blackmail and yet they have still outsourced to lower paying contractors and/or overseas both taking money out of the economy and tax coffers.

Even if the federal or a local government caves in to the corporate threat of eliminating jobs they are still letting these corporations outsource/sub contract their tax liability by making the local businesses and employees their tax payers.

Get the focus off the individual and on the corporations.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#54 Dec 31, 2012
Calling Your Bluff wrote:
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OK, look at this from a different angle;
Why should the "cliff" be avoided?
How about to at least create the illusion that Congress actually has a function?
They've had 2 years to come up with a compromise and 4 years to come up with a budget and have done neither.
Yet the SOB's will receive a pay increase the first of the year.
This is the least productive Congress we've had since the early 40's and the least productive administration and we reward them with pay raises and re-election?
One of two things is going on here.
1) Either corruption of mass proportions dictated this last election,,,,or
2) The voting base in this country is so far removed from reality they allowed this madness to happen.

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