Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?

Jan 12, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: National Ledger

Rep. Ron Paul's 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign started with great promise: A former four-term Republican US Congressman running on the ticket of America's third largest party. via National Ledger

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LocalBoy

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Bill R wrote:
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Give it up, IO. Obama's nomination is/was a political
statement and nothing more. Obama is, at the core, a
committed internationalist who hasn't the balls to
actually do what you want him so much to do .... Bush
will never be exposed or prosecuted at an international
trial of any sort. If so, we should immediately leave
the U.N. and send it to Brussels, then bring home the
54,000 troops currently stationed in Europe. By the
way, he won't do that because he is a committed inter-
nationalist. He is a boy (no racist tone implied) in
a man's world. And a naive one at best.
The U.N. is a failed experiment. NATO is obsolete.
You complain about trade treaties, but at the very
least they were implemented legally ... primarily by
Bill Clinton (not the Bush family)... and if you
ever leave the confines of Brooklyn and venture into
the bold, wide world of Latin America, Mexico, and
elsewhere you'll discover that your hated NAFTA and
such is hated every bit as much there as here. But
you won't do that because you are a typical New Yorker
who believes the world revolves around Wall Street.
Hate to tell you this, but Wall Street itself is
rapidly becoming irrelevant.
Believe it or not, the world will move along just fine
without the curses or blessings of Wall Street. You
delude yourself to think the UN or NYC or Wall Street
or even D.C. matters. The world has better things to
do than mess with your petty stuff. We've a world to
build without you.
Here's an
The Bain of Wall Street, pun intended, will be perversion. Not the perversion that exist on the Street, the perversion that is manifesting itself into Mainstreet businesses.

One thing is clear, the local types are well aware of the perversion of the uppers and will fight fire with fire. I dont support this, just see it and understand why its rational, in the short run. Doing the wrong thing for rational reasons is a red flag......a moral hazard exist.
EASY MONEY

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Jan 31, 2013
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>MacArthur is important because we dont want make the same mistake over and over. On that note I find the banishment of Patreaus to be a step in the right direction. That and we continue to honor the vets pensions, albeit with deteriorating currency.
Not a fan, at all, of the Hildabeast. Kerry is no better.
155 million dollars to Syria.....who got that money, we know it was not the billy's dying in Syria.
Rumor has it there is a purging in the Pentagon, brass who wont do as MacArthur are purged, hear anything on this ?
No I have not on the pentagon, but I will ask around..
Patreaus was and is a political hack, cut from the same piece of cloth as Powell who had me bullshited for a while. I also have a feeling that the dip-shit Dempsey ain't much better. They get two or three stars and they turn into nothing but PC pimps.
LocalBoy

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Feb 1, 2013
 
Roughly 32,000 deaths by firearm in the US.
Est. 100,000 deaths from prescription drugs.
Little more than 90,000 deaths from Doctor mal-practice.

Assuming these are accurate numbers the question is this - Is gun violence a problem in the US ?

I say it is and we could do better, now is our medical industry a problem ?
EASY MONEY

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Feb 1, 2013
 
LocalBoy wrote:
Roughly 32,000 deaths by firearm in the US.
Est. 100,000 deaths from prescription drugs.
Little more than 90,000 deaths from Doctor mal-practice.
Assuming these are accurate numbers the question is this - Is gun violence a problem in the US ?
I say it is and we could do better, now is our medical industry a problem ?
I don't see guns as a problem, but I do see the god damn media working the population up into a frenzy. They have jumped on every single gun incident that occurs, not only in America but everywhere. Never have I read so many piss ant stories about guns , be they accidents or killings/woundings of some sort as I have the last two months. And all because some crazy kid went off the deep end and shot up a school. One crazy bastard has produced a stupid knee jerk reaction from a bunch of pussy liberal women and super mothers. Who think they are more important than the rest of the population. Every minority group in America today is much more important than the rest of us, and we're supposted to roll over to their wishes. Well!!!! I for one don't roll over for boo hoo liberal mothers, illegals, blacks, lesbians, or gays. Gee! I wonder what those same mothers and liberals would say if some crazy walked into a school with a sword and took thirty heads off? Let make all knifes illegal. Wonder how the media would handle that bullshit?
EASY MONEY

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Feb 1, 2013
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>I cant speak for the left coast.Heck, I cant speak for my own area. I can speak for myself.
Traditional men are working where they have to support the wives daughters education. Making offers to the sons to move into hard sciences, leave saving the world to those of us who have nothing better to do.
Now the boys from the hood, most of them are in jail or staying at home with "the kid" while the old lady carries the load. Some just lay around and get fat.
Had a conservation this morning with some of the old crew, they see more and more WEB's,evidently funding for McMansions now come with what used to be municipal monies rules......This a VERY sore subject for me, the idea of putting businesses in the names of wives and daughters to be run by proxy. Of course I still reject joint ventures and mergers.
But I believe the question was "where are the men"
To that I say they are a product of the loss of individual responsibility. Who needs men, honor and the time honored tradition of Steel and Velvet when Uncle Samantha will take of you ?
Self reliance......why man exist, or used to.
Again, For What Its Worth (playing in background)
What self reliance? What responsibility? It's the nanny state, when a man want to act as men once did he gets his balls cut off by either laws that say the little woman is always right or he is forced to pay through the nose by the courts. I know that I will take some heat for this. But when a guy gets married, the first thing that normally occurs is that they buy a house, that is the first hook that is set in the guys wallet, then she gets pregnant, that's the second hook that's set. Now if he says, I don't like this woman, I made a mistake and I really want to leave, he's screwed, for at least 18 to 21 years and sometimes longer. So what normally occures he stays, is miserable, for most of he productive life. Don't think that sex isn't a big part of all his decisions.
Then there is the fact that boys are raised by a lot women that try to make the kid as soft as she can. It start when they are born until they leave the nest, with don't do that or this or say this and remember alway that she's a girl and needs to be treated a certain way. What a crock of crap.
Now if you all care to check it, they are trying to make the NFL as soft as they can. And you wonder why men have no balls any longer.
EASY MONEY

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Here's a great example of the double standard when it come to men and women. Dan Marino just got nailed for a little afair, the media says that he had a love child. For a woman it's love, for a man it's lust. How about calling it just what it was a simple roll in the sack, they were horney and it was there. Once again the media has attempted to cut poor Dan's balls off. He has a wife and 8 kids, how could he do that to her, easy, eight kids. It's the same everywhere in America the guy is dirt but the woman is vunerable or lied to or taken advantage of by some man and he's going to pay. And poor Dan has been paying and will continue to pay for a very long time. Is it any wonder that men are staying home and letting the little woman go to work and take care of the house bills. Why work when you can stay home do a little house work, watch TV and maybe toss a meal together or have her take you out for dinner. That is what has happened to men, they finially figured out that staying home with no responsabilities or cares was a hell of a lot easier than busting your ass off at some tired assed job. No wonder they are not going after MBA's any longer. The ladder up is filled with too many problems and pit falls and not enough rewards.
Steve

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Enjoy the Super Bowl, everybody!
LocalBoy

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Feb 2, 2013
 
EASY MONEY wrote:
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I don't see guns as a problem, but I do see the god damn media working the population up into a frenzy. They have jumped on every single gun incident that occurs, not only in America but everywhere. Never have I read so many piss ant stories about guns , be they accidents or killings/woundings of some sort as I have the last two months. And all because some crazy kid went off the deep end and shot up a school. One crazy bastard has produced a stupid knee jerk reaction from a bunch of pussy liberal women and super mothers. Who think they are more important than the rest of the population. Every minority group in America today is much more important than the rest of us, and we're supposted to roll over to their wishes. Well!!!! I for one don't roll over for boo hoo liberal mothers, illegals, blacks, lesbians, or gays. Gee! I wonder what those same mothers and liberals would say if some crazy walked into a school with a sword and took thirty heads off? Let make all knifes illegal. Wonder how the media would handle that bullshit?
Dang, Easy, somebody get your goat?
Gun violence.....The question was about gun violence.

Two men squabble over a crack whore, crack or crack sales areas and they drive by shooting up the whole darn town, that is a gun violence problem. No guns needed for two men to squabble over crack, of any kind. Come on, Easy, your really saying men should shoot each other and half the neighborhood over crack ?

Whats wrong with standing toe to toe and may the last man standing breed the whore ?

Tell us Easy, your man of the world. Is it common for men to randomly shoot people when their Viagra runs out or their cousins did not ?

I say we could do better than resort to random shootings over less than life threatening problems.

My comment was not advocacy for gun laws, it was advocacy for a little honor among men.
Bill R

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Honor? Honor?

Now, there's a word you don't hear much anymore.

I remember and thank God for the fact that my Dad
drummed into me from the time I was a little boy
that OUR family name was honest and honorable
and that to do anything that would bring dishonor
or shame to myself would reflect upon ALL of us.

When did this cease to mean anything?
EASY MONEY

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Feb 2, 2013
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>Dang, Easy, somebody get your goat?
Gun violence.....The question was about gun violence.
Two men squabble over a crack whore, crack or crack sales areas and they drive by shooting up the whole darn town, that is a gun violence problem. No guns needed for two men to squabble over crack, of any kind. Come on, Easy, your really saying men should shoot each other and half the neighborhood over crack ?
Whats wrong with standing toe to toe and may the last man standing breed the whore ?
Tell us Easy, your man of the world. Is it common for men to randomly shoot people when their Viagra runs out or their cousins did not ?
I say we could do better than resort to random shootings over less than life threatening problems.
My comment was not advocacy for gun laws, it was advocacy for a little honor among men.
Honor for the most part is a thing of the past. We are living in the "ME" age. Don't piss me off I have rights folks, wandering around America with that I'm special bullshit and I'm really some body attitude. In reality nothing could be farther from the truth. It's not guns, its some of the idiot crazies that have them. If the NRA is correct in there figures, for every idiot out there there are thousands that the thought of killing someone never crosses their mind. At one time I had about 8 or 9 guns in the house, didn't belong to the NRA and never was inclined to go out and shoot up anybody. Gee, and would never have thoughts of killing someone over a woman.
EASY MONEY

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Here's the need for guns! Google "revolt in Athans TN 1946" do not for a second think that it could not and would not be attempted in todays world.
I some times believe that we are moving in that direction at the Federal level. Bozo and his merry men/lesbians are really up to no good.
LocalBoy

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Bill R wrote:
Honor? Honor?
Now, there's a word you don't hear much anymore.
I remember and thank God for the fact that my Dad
drummed into me from the time I was a little boy
that OUR family name was honest and honorable
and that to do anything that would bring dishonor
or shame to myself would reflect upon ALL of us.
When did this cease to mean anything?
From my seat it appears honor was replaced by pride.

Honor still exist, individually. We all know cases of that. Its the collective style that lags.

You make a good point, honor takes a family time to earn and the consequences of its loss are brutal.Can it be argued the protection from failure is relative to the degree of honor ?

No fear of failure, no need to worry about honor. Americans dont lose well........
LocalBoy

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Feb 2, 2013
 
EASY MONEY wrote:
Here's the need for guns! Google "revolt in Athans TN 1946" do not for a second think that it could not and would not be attempted in todays world.
I some times believe that we are moving in that direction at the Federal level. Bozo and his merry men/lesbians are really up to no good.
Well aware of it.
Guns are an important issue when it comes to preventing a tyrannical government. In this case it was local government that was corrupt and the local white hats got federal support. In the modern era of military perversion can the people really trust the federal apparatus to protect them, NO
Can "guns" protect against a military takeover, NO

The real power,the one the feds covet the most.......control of currency, banking and credit still alludes us. Guns dont bring down modern armies, economics can.

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Feb 2, 2013
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>From my seat it appears honor was replaced by pride.
Honor still exist, individually. We all know cases of that. Its the collective style that lags.
You make a good point, honor takes a family time to earn and the consequences of its loss are brutal.Can it be argued the protection from failure is relative to the degree of honor ?
No fear of failure, no need to worry about honor. Americans dont lose well........
What good is honor without integrity and biggest mortality?

So today our Nation's US mililtary does really Uphold these important Values at home and Worldwide?
LocalBoy

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Feb 3, 2013
 
UidiotraceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>What good is honor without integrity and biggest mortality?
So today our Nation's US mililtary does really Uphold these important Values at home and Worldwide?
Honor is a measurement of time, integrity is an act.
Integrity over time is honor.

It is said to be dishonorable to gain wealth through theft, the act of theft is a lack of integrity.

When a person receives charity from a corrupt government that lies, cheats and kills innocents is the person receiving this stolen loot honorable ?

If the US military is killing innocents to steal oil that empowers the rich, making their asset value go up, does the new money the government creates based on the "new" wealth in the nation have value ? Is it moral to use this "new" money ?

Last question,IO......Is it moral and honorable to reject immoral money backed by a tyrannical military and starve your children as a consequence ?
LocalBoy

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Feb 3, 2013
 
UidiotraceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>What good is honor without integrity and biggest mortality?
So today our Nation's US mililtary does really Uphold these important Values at home and Worldwide?
IO, is it moral to be a New Yorker ?
Steve

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#29615
Feb 6, 2013
 
Great Super Bowl!
Steve

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#29616
Feb 15, 2013
 
Has the thread finally died?
EASY MONEY

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#29617
Feb 16, 2013
 
Steve wrote:
Has the thread finally died?
Just too many idiots in D C now to pick one and stay with him.
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Feb 25, 2013
 
OMG..Rand Paul!!! Look out!

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