Republicans after Romney: Rebuild or revamp?

Nov 19, 2012 Full story: Washington Times 137

WASHINGTON , November 19, 2012 - The Republicans are going through some serious soul-searching, following the defeat of their candidate Governor Mitt Romney.

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Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#21 Nov 19, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>While Republicans reserve their free shit for the top one percent.
whats better, 1% getting free sh't, or 47% getting free sh't?
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#22 Nov 19, 2012
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Libertarianism is nice but will never appeal to the masses. The people who voted for Obama didn't want less government, they wanted MORE. The Libertarians will remain a fringe party unless they offer free drugs.
The country is going to end up Libertarian anyway, once we default on our debt. You have to look at it realistically ten years down the road. NO matter Obama borrows another $1 trillion a year to prop up the welfare programs and bankrupt state pensions, no matter the Repubs were to have borrowed another $1 trillion a year and started a war with Iran, the bottom line is we are paying $450 billion a year in interest on the debt NOW, and we have 80 million baby boomers now beginning to go onto the government big time, onto SS and Medicare, and that would cost us about $4 TRILLIION each year, and at the same time, the country is going majority race Hispanic and they have an average IQ of 83, and over 50 percent of Hispanic women are now having kids out of wedlock to get welfare, and 80 percent of black women do that, and add in those 80 million retiring baby boomers - how many of them will be collecting fat state or local pensions too? So you have the tax drain from hell on a bankrupt country in debt. That spells default and austerity measures to the max. It's about 2 years away the U.S. is going to collapse in total, the dollar is going to collapse and the dollar will no longer be the world's reserve currency, so we won't be able to print up money any longer. Add in cheap oil is gone, oil will sit at $150 a barrel forever when any country tries to grow, so there is NO way to ever grow the GDP. The real model is the end of growth, end of cheap oil, the end of globalization, the revamping of localization, dealing with global warming, the end of SS, Medicare, welfare and state and local government pensions. You would have to have a big working generation who is highly educated, a low amount of people on SS, Medicare and welfare in order to not collapse. The country is going to be Libertarian, just like Ron Paul says, in about two more years by having to default on the debt. Look at the picture of this nation ten years down the road, the aging population, old infrastructure, younger people being on welfare and in gangs and in the prisons. Look at the demographics, that tells the whole story. It's going to go third world. And the price of oil in the future is a really big part of it too.

We will be spending maybe $2 trillion each year to deal with FEMA cleanups from extreme weather from global warming. There won't be ONE cent to spend on welfare or on government pensions nor on social security and medicare. It's a new world all the way around.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#23 Nov 19, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
<quoted text>
whats better, 1% getting free sh't, or 47% getting free sh't?
They include everyone on social security and Medicare in that 47 percent who don't pay taxes and who are on the government and who vote for stuff from the government.

The reality is the Tea Party is in the same pile as those on welfare because they all live off of the government.
Billy Ringo

United States

#24 Nov 19, 2012
The Cons don't need to do anything - they should not change a thing.

They have a bunch of fine, fine candidates for 2016.

Palin/Bachmann - 2016 <----damn mavericky !!!!

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#25 Nov 19, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe, Maybe not.
The reason why i mention it is due to its significance. The registered democrat and registered Republican voters are leaving the 2 parties in droves. NPA/Independent is the largest growing political affiliation.
With this said, it could be argued that more people are starting to see the duopoly for what it is. 1 snake 2 heads.
You have a media and education establishment that promotes groupism and welfare. The Libertarians are getting a trickle but unless you disillusion the great masses, the Democrats will be in the driver's seat. Eventually the socialism the Democrat promote will fail but that will take several years. I see the Democrats as the express train to perdition, the Republicans are the slower local train to perdition.
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While many see the election of 2012 are the first black President to get voted back in, I see the election of 2012 as a shift in power to the business community. Many companies held off action until the election was over. Now they will start deciding their future in the United States. Economic growth of 1.5-2% per year is an economic death by a 1000 cuts and nothing Obama said gave them any indication to hope for a brighter future or that more investment will be worth their while.
responder

Columbus, OH

#26 Nov 19, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
We won the house, gained in the senate.
Republicans retained control of the U.S. House of Representatives.
Voters in Alabama, Montana, and Wyoming all passed measures limiting Obamacare.
..blah, blah....We're going to grab the little marxist by the nuts and not let go until he returns to his "home" (chuckle) Hawaii. He can build his library there full of empty rooms which will designate accomplishments. LOL
You can't "regain" something you already had, douchebag. You RETAINED control of the House, but lost seats. You did NOT gain control of the Senate, in fact DEMS gained two seats, though yours side spent hundreds of millions trying to do so. You did NOT gain control of the White House, though you spent hundreds of millions trying to do so.

"Bills limiting Obamacare" don't mean s--t. It's a federal mandate, the only thing states can do is opt out of running their own plan, and reTHUGlicans are doing that across the nation as they hypocritically pass the buck back to the Federal Government.

You can hate on, and lie about Mr. Obama all you want, it's a free country even for racist thugs. But he's in office 4 more years and there's not a goddam thing you can do about it.

Sit and spin, Rightie!:)
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#27 Nov 19, 2012
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a media and education establishment that promotes groupism and welfare. The Libertarians are getting a trickle but unless you disillusion the great masses, the Democrats will be in the driver's seat. Eventually the socialism the Democrat promote will fail but that will take several years. I see the Democrats as the express train to perdition, the Republicans are the slower local train to perdition.
.
While many see the election of 2012 are the first black President to get voted back in, I see the election of 2012 as a shift in power to the business community. Many companies held off action until the election was over. Now they will start deciding their future in the United States. Economic growth of 1.5-2% per year is an economic death by a 1000 cuts and nothing Obama said gave them any indication to hope for a brighter future or that more investment will be worth their while.
Sure. YOu got that right. The Repubs were so bad, Bush was sooooo bad, he literally finished off the Republican party, and when this new party rose up, this Tea Party, they should have held their ground against the media controlling them and refused to be dragged into either major party, and all support Ron Paul. That would have been powerful for the people, real power and real solutions to the corrupt major parties. The Dems have CA at bankruptcy, and my guess is the entire country will collapse from the Dems' policies in about two more years, and I agree that Romney would have just propped the country back up for maybe 4 years longer than the Dems can, because he would have had a trade war with China, which is WHY the Asians voted against Romney. He should have not said what he was planning on doing to China until after he got elected. The Asians here import stuff made in China and have small businesses and sell those things so they don't want a big tariff on Chinese imports. But, anyway, it all leads to going Libertarian once we get like Greece, and we are close to that now. Also, the end of cheap oil stops GDP growth for any nation and begins to end globalization. Also, those 80 million baby boomers going onto SS and Medicare will add about $4 trillion a year in new tax costs, so they tip the country into full on default of our debt. So it is soon, 1-2 years from now.
responder

Columbus, OH

#28 Nov 19, 2012
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a media and education establishment that promotes groupism and welfare. The Libertarians are getting a trickle but unless you disillusion the great masses, the Democrats will be in the driver's seat. Eventually the socialism the Democrat promote will fail but that will take several years. I see the Democrats as the express train to perdition, the Republicans are the slower local train to perdition.
.
While many see the election of 2012 are the first black President to get voted back in, I see the election of 2012 as a shift in power to the business community. Many companies held off action until the election was over. Now they will start deciding their future in the United States. Economic growth of 1.5-2% per year is an economic death by a 1000 cuts and nothing Obama said gave them any indication to hope for a brighter future or that more investment will be worth their while.
Despite your Rightie, anti-socialist ranting and raving, you made a key admission. It is the business community that's responsible for slow growth, not the President. And they could change that if they wanted to.

Thanks for that, at least, it's far more honest than most Righties are willing to be...:)

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#29 Nov 19, 2012
responder wrote:
<quoted text>
Despite your Rightie, anti-socialist ranting and raving, you made a key admission. It is the business community that's responsible for slow growth, not the President. And they could change that if they wanted to.
Thanks for that, at least, it's far more honest than most Righties are willing to be...:)
why would they want to?
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#30 Nov 19, 2012
responder wrote:
<quoted text>
Despite your Rightie, anti-socialist ranting and raving, you made a key admission. It is the business community that's responsible for slow growth, not the President. And they could change that if they wanted to.
Thanks for that, at least, it's far more honest than most Righties are willing to be...:)
It's the end of cheap oil that created the recession and that stops GDP growth. Oil was always around $20 a barrel but now the cheap pools of oil have run out. So now it is deep water drilling, fracking for shale oil and sand tar oil, so oil is about $100 a barrel in a worldwide recession. It was at $150 a barrel before the recession and that's what triggered the recession. Frankly, that is why Bush did 9/11 so he could invade Iraq for it's oil, to give the majors control of the oil in Iraq. So, no, no nation can grow ever again because the minute they try to grow, oil goes back up to $150 a barrel. It has to do with the end of growth, the end of the capitalist model of growth and the end of globalization due to the high cost of transportation, due to the high cost of oil. People will end up job sharing, working less, having less money, and all fo the Dems' programs will be ended for lack of money and because of the U.S. defaulting on it's debt. The end of cheap oil is the end of GDP growth, so no, we can't ever pay the debt back. We are now paying $450 billion a year just on interest on the debt. The second it goes a tiny bit higher than than, we are talking default on the debt.
Billy Ringo

United States

#31 Nov 19, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
We won the house, gained in the senate.
Republicans retained control of the U.S. House of Representatives.
Voters in Alabama, Montana, and Wyoming all passed measures limiting Obamacare.
Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, one of the conservative movementís brightest rising stars, overcame establishment GOP opposition to clinch a U.S. Senate victory in Texas.
Corruptocrat Beltway barnacle Rep. Pete Stark was finally kicked out of office in California.. Despite entrenched teachersí union opposition, a charter school initiative in Washington state triumphed.
Despite entrenched Big Labor support, a radical collective bargaining power grab in Michigan failed.
Oklahoma voters said no to government race-based preferences in college admissions, public contracting, and government hiring.
Montana voters said no to boundless benefits for illegal aliens.
Washington state approved taxpayer-empowering limitations on its state legislatureís ability to raise taxes.
For the first time since Reconstruction, the GOP won control of the Arkansas state house.
Voters rejected tax hike ballot measures in Arizona, South Dakota, and Missouri.
Louisiana voted to protect gun rights.
Kentucky voted to protect hunting and fishing rights.
Parental notification for minorsí abortion prevailed in Montana.
North Carolina Republicans claimed the governorís office, congressional gains, and control of the stateís general assembly.
Paul Ryan will return to Congress after winning re-election and continue to carry the torch for entitlement reform and budget discipline.
Conservatives won big victories in the Kansas state legislature.
Republicans won historic supermajorities in Tennessee.
Across the country, Republicans reached a post-2000 record number of gubernatorial victories.
Conservatives who were devastated by the national election results demonstrated how to lose with dignity and grace. There will be finger-pointing and recriminations and soul-searching, but committed activists canít and wonít lose heart. Weíll regroup, recover, and keep fighting for our country.
Millions writing to senators and house members to stand their ground.
We're going to grab the little marxist by the nuts and not let go until he returns to his "home" (chuckle) Hawaii. He can build his library there full of empty rooms which will designate accomplishments. LOL
Really?

In a somber statement, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said Republicans "have a period of reflection and recalibration ahead." He added that, "While some will want to blame one wing of the party over the other, the reality is candidates from all corners of our GOP lost tonight."

LOL - you must be another graduate of the Karl Rove / Dick Morris School of Basic Arithmetic.
Dane Thorsen

AOL

#32 Nov 19, 2012
Billy Ringo wrote:
The Cons don't need to do anything - they should not change a thing.
They have a bunch of fine, fine candidates for 2016.
Palin/Bachmann - 2016 <----damn mavericky !!!!
Americans may be stupid and self loathing enough to settle for nothing more than a lifetime of tax slavery to Big Bro.

It happened in the pathetic remains of California. Calif were actually stupid enough to elect UnionCrat politicians who sold them all out in return for Union campaign dollars.
If you come across a California ask the politically ignorant moron to explain the unbridled extortion represented by "Pension Spiking"!!!

Now it just a matter of time until the wildly overpaid public sector
workers start seeing their fat checks and outlandish pension checks bounce.

Like Thatcher said so many years ago, "Socialism only works until you run out of other peoples hard earned money".
Your Ex

United States

#33 Nov 19, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
We won the house, gained in the senate.
Republicans retained control of the U.S. House of Representatives.
Voters in Alabama, Montana, and Wyoming all passed measures limiting Obamacare.
Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, one of the conservative movementís brightest rising stars, overcame establishment GOP opposition to clinch a U.S. Senate victory in Texas.
Corruptocrat Beltway barnacle Rep. Pete Stark was finally kicked out of office in California.. Despite entrenched teachersí union opposition, a charter school initiative in Washington state triumphed.
Despite entrenched Big Labor support, a radical collective bargaining power grab in Michigan failed.
Oklahoma voters said no to government race-based preferences in college admissions, public contracting, and government hiring.
Montana voters said no to boundless benefits for illegal aliens.
Washington state approved taxpayer-empowering limitations on its state legislatureís ability to raise taxes.
For the first time since Reconstruction, the GOP won control of the Arkansas state house.
Voters rejected tax hike ballot measures in Arizona, South Dakota, and Missouri.
Louisiana voted to protect gun rights.
Kentucky voted to protect hunting and fishing rights.
Parental notification for minorsí abortion prevailed in Montana.
North Carolina Republicans claimed the governorís office, congressional gains, and control of the stateís general assembly.
Paul Ryan will return to Congress after winning re-election and continue to carry the torch for entitlement reform and budget discipline.
Conservatives won big victories in the Kansas state legislature.
Republicans won historic supermajorities in Tennessee.
Across the country, Republicans reached a post-2000 record number of gubernatorial victories.
Conservatives who were devastated by the national election results demonstrated how to lose with dignity and grace. There will be finger-pointing and recriminations and soul-searching, but committed activists canít and wonít lose heart. Weíll regroup, recover, and keep fighting for our country.
Millions writing to senators and house members to stand their ground.
We're going to grab the little marxist by the nuts and not let go until he returns to his "home" (chuckle) Hawaii. He can build his library there full of empty rooms which will designate accomplishments. LOL
Is the person who
Reads
The news to you a
Moron
Or is that all
You?

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#34 Nov 19, 2012
Your Ex wrote:
<quoted text>
Is the person who
Reads
The news to you a
Moron
Or is that all
You?
why
do
you
type
funny
?
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Nov 19, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
<quoted text>
why would they want to?
Why would the rich want to make more money? Greed?

There are now two ways,

1. Lobby the government and get them to give you billions, while taking as much of the profit from your company as possible, crashing your company to get everything.

2. Investing the profit to grow your company, knowing there might be competition and you would have to work and be competent.

I guess most of the rich select option 1.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#36 Nov 19, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
<quoted text>
whats better, 1% getting free sh't, or 47% getting free sh't?
That would depend on the absolute volume of free ordure (aka '''t). I would argue that the bulk (!) of this anal product goes to the 1%, and that only a few wet farts are left for the 47%.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#37 Nov 19, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would the rich want to make more money? Greed?
There are now two ways,
1. Lobby the government and get them to give you billions, while taking as much of the profit from your company as possible, crashing your company to get everything.
2. Investing the profit to grow your company, knowing there might be competition and you would have to work and be competent.
I guess most of the rich select option 1.
in my next life, I'm gonna come back as a liquor store owner...thats where the money is. I don't believe in reincarnation, but I did in a previous life.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#38 Nov 19, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>That would depend on the absolute volume of free ordure (aka '''t). I would argue that the bulk (!) of this anal product goes to the 1%, and that only a few wet farts are left for the 47%.
Wet farts, now thats a problem I don't look forward to....as I get older, I accept the fact that I will probably have memory problems, maybe a little dementia, parkinsons and alzheimers, but what I really dread is the loss of sphincter control. That's when I'll petition obama to pull the plug.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#39 Nov 19, 2012
At least the recent election solved all our differences.......
responder

Columbus, OH

#40 Nov 19, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
<quoted text>
why would they want to?
If they're anti-American reTHUGlicans like you, they wouldn't. Good American employers, of course, would WANT to create jobs, seeing that making money, employing Americans, and moving beyond recovery were GOOD things.

But thanks for admitting you hate America, not that it was a secret.

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