Labor unions divided over crowded DFL field for Minnesota governor

[progressive]

Hey IrishMn wrote:

Mr. Obama has declared war on Fox News......Now it's the Chamber of Commerce.......Maybe next he'll go after the teabaggers! Then it might be a 16 year old girl who disgrees with climate change(or is it global warming). Someday, if you dare to disagree Mr. Obama might declare war on you!

The national Chamber of Commerce is more powerful politically than a 16 year old girl. some members of the C of C don't agree with the others. and on the local level, a C of C is more interested in promoting buying at local stores, which is a sensible project.

[Progressivly Worse]

Detroit: The Triumph of Progressive Public Policy

http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx...

Imagine a city where all the major economic planks of the statist or "progressive" platform have been enacted:

* A "living wage" ordinance, far above the federal minimum wage, for all public employees and private contractors.

* A school system that spends significantly more per pupil than the national average.

* A powerful school employee union that militantly defends the exceptional pay, benefits and job security it has won for its members.

* A powerful government employee union that does the same for its members.

* A tax system that aggressively redistributes income from businesses and the wealthy to the poor and to government bureaucracies.

Would this be a shining city on a hill, exciting the admiration of all? We don't have to guess, because there is such a city right here in our state: Detroit

Detroit has been dubbed "the most liberal city in America" and each of these "progressive" policies are alive and well there. How have they worked out?

In 1950, Detroit was the wealthiest city in America on a per capita income basis. Today, the Census Bureau reports that it is the nation's 2nd poorest major city, just "edging out" Cleveland.

Could it be pure coincidence that the decline occurred over the same period in which union power, the city government bureaucracy, taxes and business regulations all multiplied? While correlation is not causation, it is striking that the decline in per capita income is exactly what classical economists predict would occur when wage controls are imposed and taxes are increased.

[Recession resident]

Leap Frog wrote:

Don't Vote for any DFLer or RINO! And don't drop a Dime on ANY News Paper! Union or No Union F Them all!

you are an jerk

[Community Disorganizer]

Jimmy Hoffa wrote:

Unions protect crappy lazy workers, goes hand-in-hand with being a liberal!

So true! The lazier the worker, the bigger the union supporter.

[IrishMN]

Community Disorganizer wrote:

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So true! The lazier the worker, the bigger the union supporter.

Your ignorant comments are not appreciated. Unions are the backbone of manufacturing in the United States. Without union quality and union labor, this country would be no more than a third world nations.

[Counter Productive]

Would you agree or disagree that present day Unions today go against what they were originally intended for, when they were first created?
I think labor Unions were great, however Unions today have gotten so powerful & political. They have lost there intended purpose. Unions today do more HARM than good!!
I remember working for a company a number of years ago when I was 28 yrs old. I was training in a new guy. I was showing him around the warehouse, and what certain tools were used for, and showing him the functions and duties and whats expected.
Then I remember immediately getting called into managements office,....... saying well nothing personal against you, but since you are "NON-UNION" several UNION members filed a grievance against you. Never mind the fact that I worked for this company for 10yrs and knew the job inside and out and could of trained ppl in my sleep. The fact remained that I was "NON-UNION" and UNION members wanted only "UNION" members to train ppl in. AT the time I just didnt get it and couldnt understand what I did wrong. Then somebody explained how UNIONS work, no matter how counter productive something is, or how inexperienced somebody is, or how ridiculous something may sound, being a UNION MEMBER is only thing that matters. Its not about what works best for the company, you must be a UNION member.

[Community Disorganizer]

IrishMN wrote:

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Your ignorant comments are not appreciated. Unions are the backbone of manufacturing in the United States. Without union quality and union labor, this country would be no more than a third world nations.

Third world, as in Detroit, Michigan?

[really]

dfl candidiates hmmm ..they are all the same..... raise taxes hire more government employees which will then be required to join the unions bash pawlenty. repeat

[really]

IrishMN wrote:

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Your ignorant comments are not appreciated. Unions are the backbone of manufacturing in the United States. Without union quality and union labor, this country would be no more than a third world nations.

my you are in the Irish whiskey early today but you are still trying to sell your twisted logic. Change your moniker to Obama

[really]

the sudden emergence of this IrishMn person and the style of wrting tells me this is the person who used to be the dam rethuglican. I believe that this person is a writer for the paper. the main suspect is salisbury. this writer displys the same beliefs and trends the employee in his writing of articles for the paper

[Clueless]

IrishMN wrote:

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Your ignorant comments are not appreciated. Unions are the backbone of manufacturing in the United States. Without union quality and union labor, this country would be no more than a third world nations.

With all due respect, my friend, you don't back anything
you say up with anything. I will try this again, and ask
you where you think I am wrong.

As I said to you once before, I have been in 4 unions: the
grocery union, the postal union (APWU), the Teamsters, and
the Guild. All 4 places I worked have either folded, are
in constant financial trouble (the Post Office), or have
had massive layoffs due to wages and work rules. Again,
in all 4 jobs the biggest obstacle I faced in advancing, in
either position or wage, was the UNION not management or
the company. There aren't enough characters on this site
or hours in the day to go over the examples of mine and
people I worked with. Forget politics,(even though the
unions are getting in too deep in that area) simply trying
to work in the environment they create is brutal. I am a
believer in collective bargaining of wages and benefits,
as there is strength in numbers, but after that the work
should be all that matters not how long someone has been
there or who they support for steward, and you know exactly
what I am talking about.

Now, will you address these answers to your post, or will
you just ignore everyone who challenges your ideology as
you so often do? I am really interested.