Stupak feels arrows from his own side

Apr 4, 2010 Full story: Detroit Free Press 137

If there were two words Bart Stupak never expected to hear, those were the two. Shouted at him.

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“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#103 Apr 10, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>No doubt, and I look foward to the upcoming elections. I think the majority of americans are pretty angry that despite the calls and the polls, that the democrats rammed legislation that they didn't want. So I am looking foward with great hope that we will have the votes and the support for life in short order.
It appears more people are happy with the legislation than not.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2...

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#104 Apr 10, 2010
LadiLulu wrote:
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In your "perfect" world, women and girls would carry ALL of their pregnancies to term, right?
Now not only do you want to force them to bear children, but you want to make sure they don't have health insurance, you want to force all PPs out of business so they will have trouble finding an affordable pre-natal care provider if there's none in their area, and you want to cut social services so they won't be able to feed, house or clothe their family.
You're a sadist, mary.
In my perfect world, I would have women and men act in a responsible manner, and know the consequences of their actions, and not be decieved by the pro-abortion lies. Like its not a child, its just a blob of insentinent tissue, or a fetus is not a person. Or abortion is safe because its legal. In my perfect world, you wouldn't have any regret, because you were well informed and were not decieved into thinking that you were doing the right thing.

Who's the sadist, lulu?

“...sigh”

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#105 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>In my perfect world, I would have women and men act in a responsible manner, and know the consequences of their actions, and not be decieved by the pro-abortion lies. Like its not a child, its just a blob of insentinent tissue, or a fetus is not a person. Or abortion is safe because its legal. In my perfect world, you wouldn't have any regret, because you were well informed and were not decieved into thinking that you were doing the right thing.
Who's the sadist, lulu?
You are.

Because you know full well that this is NOT a perfect world, and never will be.

So if you ever got your way and were able to force women and children to bear unwanted children, you would have more death, more misery, more starvation than ever before. PLUS you want to remove their health care, so they have no insurance with which to pay for safe pre-natal care and delivery, and post-natal care. They'd have no insurance to help them take care of all the kids you want them to have. And you would also close the inexpensive places they could go to if they have no insurance.

YOU are the sadist, mary.

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#106 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>In my perfect world, I would have women and men act in a responsible manner, and know the consequences of their actions, and not be decieved by the pro-abortion lies. Like its not a child, its just a blob of insentinent tissue, or a fetus is not a person. Or abortion is safe because its legal. In my perfect world, you wouldn't have any regret, because you were well informed and were not decieved into thinking that you were doing the right thing.
Who's the sadist, lulu?
Women have no need for you to 'protect them from themselves'. We are perfectly capable of doing our own research, and making our own choices, Misogynist.

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#107 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
In my perfect world, you wouldn't have any regret, because you were well informed and were not decieved into thinking that you were doing the right thing.
Who's the sadist, lulu?
What makes you think that women who choose abortion are not well informed? How do you know they weren't doing the right thing for THEMSELVES?
Ink

Swedesboro, NJ

#108 Apr 11, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
<quoted text>It appears more people are happy with the legislation than not.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2...
So why do Obama's job approval ratings keep going down? Health care was his biggie.

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#109 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>In my perfect world, I would have women and men act in MY VERSION of a responsible manner, and I wouldn't give a damn if others liked it or not...
Corrected for accuracy.

And fortunately, YOUR perfect world is only a wet dream for you, one that wont ever be REALITY.

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#110 Apr 11, 2010
Ink wrote:
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So why do Obama's job approval ratings keep going down? Health care was his biggie.
Show us where its going down.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...

Its actually gone UP quite a bit since health care was passed over the last few weeks.

But dont let FACTS get in the way of your delusions. YOu never do.

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#111 Apr 11, 2010
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Show us where its going down.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...
Its actually gone UP quite a bit since health care was passed over the last few weeks.
But dont let FACTS get in the way of your delusions. YOu never do.
Thanks. I was about to pull this for her -- glad you saved me the trouble. However, she's never been one to let facts get in the way of her bullsh*t.

“A person is a person no matter”

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#112 Apr 11, 2010
53cammy wrote:
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What makes you think that women who choose abortion are not well informed? How do you know they weren't doing the right thing for THEMSELVES?
Because I know a few women who have had abortions, and all of the women that I know, didn't feel they were fully informed or had a choice.

One women who told me about her abortion, spoke to me one on one, and at great length, felt she was doing the right thing for herself at the time she did it, but not at the point she was telling me her story. Had she known the pain it caused, she would have done things differently. I have heard many testimonies like that, and not one person has ever sat down with me, and told me that they made a choice to abort their child and they don't regret it for one minute. But even if they could do that, they can not deny that they killed or had their own child killed.

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#113 Apr 11, 2010
Bitner wrote:
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Women have no need for you to 'protect them from themselves'. We are perfectly capable of doing our own research, and making our own choices, Misogynist.
Yeah that is why you deny the abortion breast cancer link, as well as denying the childhood and personhood of the unborn child?

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#114 Apr 11, 2010
LadiLulu wrote:
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You are.
Because you know full well that this is NOT a perfect world, and never will be.
So if you ever got your way and were able to force women and children to bear unwanted children, you would have more death, more misery, more starvation than ever before. PLUS you want to remove their health care, so they have no insurance with which to pay for safe pre-natal care and delivery, and post-natal care. They'd have no insurance to help them take care of all the kids you want them to have. And you would also close the inexpensive places they could go to if they have no insurance.
YOU are the sadist, mary.
I never said that I wanted to remove their health care lulu. I just don't believe this bill will solve the problems with out causing more. But you are on a mission to twist what I have said. Nothing causes more death than abortion and the resulting misery can not be undone.

“A person is a person no matter”

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#115 Apr 11, 2010
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Corrected for accuracy.
And fortunately, YOUR perfect world is only a wet dream for you, one that wont ever be REALITY.
you are not correct or accurate. you are just a pro-abort who seeks to decieve.

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#116 Apr 11, 2010
Bitner wrote:
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Ye Gods, you people are clining to a poll that is nearly a year old. The most recent polls show that a slight majority are pro-choice, with others considering themselves mixed. And you know damn well that YOU would consider those 'mixed' pro-choice.
BTW, 4,000 businesses a day are closing down now. It's the economy, you Moron.
Well wait a minute here. You trying to say that the economy is causing women to choose life, instead of getting an abortion? HMMM?

“...sigh”

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#117 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>I never said that I wanted to remove their health care lulu. I just don't believe this bill will solve the problems with out causing more. But you are on a mission to twist what I have said.....
Then perhaps you should make yourself clear. What problems will this bill cause for the poor, in your opinion?

“...sigh”

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#118 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>Well wait a minute here. You trying to say that the economy is causing women to choose life, instead of getting an abortion? HMMM?
Actually, the birthrate is DROPPING because of the economy. Normal people recognize that financial stability is an important consideration when planning a family, mary.

“...sigh”

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#119 Apr 11, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>you are not correct or accurate. you are just a pro-abort who seeks to decieve.
She's not a "pro-abort", speaking of DECEIVING.

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#120 Apr 12, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah that is why you deny the abortion breast cancer link, as well as denying the childhood and personhood of the unborn child?
I deny them, because none of them exist. Sorry, but it's a fact.

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#121 Apr 12, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>Well wait a minute here. You trying to say that the economy is causing women to choose life, instead of getting an abortion? HMMM?
I'm saying that assuming a business closes down for reasons other than the economy these days is stupid. Have the RATES of abortions gone down? Do you even know? No, you couldn't. You're just engaged in wishful thinking.

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#122 Apr 12, 2010
LadiLulu wrote:
<quoted text>
She's not a "pro-abort", speaking of DECEIVING.
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Really, since when lulu? Seems to me for not being a pro-abort she sure spends a lot of time defending and supporting abortion.

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