Stupak feels arrows from his own side

Stupak feels arrows from his own side

There are 137 comments on the Detroit Free Press story from Apr 4, 2010, titled Stupak feels arrows from his own side. In it, Detroit Free Press reports that:

If there were two words Bart Stupak never expected to hear, those were the two. Shouted at him.

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“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#1 Apr 4, 2010
I've seen many PL here on Topix behave in a similar fashion. They'll eat their own.
PastorBob666

Centreville, VA

#2 Apr 4, 2010
<<I've seen many PL here on Topix behave in a similar fashion. They'll eat their own.>>

Their own feces or their own feti?

I know of one RTL hypocrite who may like sweet & sour fetus. She claimsn the Chinese do it right here: http://www.jillstanek.com/industry-watch/swee...

And then we come to CL, who does practice coprophilia! I heard she also likes to eat vomit like a dog!

“A person is a person no matter”

Since: Sep 07

how small.

#3 Apr 4, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
I've seen many PL here on Topix behave in a similar fashion. They'll eat their own.
What are your thoughts on that, Why do you think that is?

Pup C

“Still .. PRO LIFE”

Since: Jun 09

Just not stupid about it.

#4 Apr 5, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
I've seen many PL here on Topix behave in a similar fashion. They'll eat their own.
Interesting isn't it.
That is because a lot of so called pro life are actually ... pro HATE.

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#5 Apr 5, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>What are your thoughts on that, Why do you think that is?
I think many are simply incapable of thinking for themselves, need something/someone to villify in order to feel better about themselves and have an inability to allow other points of view.

I've seen many of you (not you personally) rip Pupsy to shreds and call her "pro-abortion" when you (again, not you personally) know she isn't. I've seen her post that she would die herself before having an abortion (which, in my opinion, is reckless given the fact that she has other children). Can you get more PL than that? You tell me.....why does that happen?

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#6 Apr 5, 2010
Pup C wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting isn't it.
That is because a lot of so called pro life are actually ... pro HATE.
Agreed.

“A person is a person no matter”

Since: Sep 07

how small.

#7 Apr 5, 2010
Pup C wrote:
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Interesting isn't it.
That is because a lot of so called pro life are actually ... pro HATE.
that could be considered a hateful comment from someone who many consider to be so called pro-life! But Sadly the real victim of abortion is hated to death.

“A person is a person no matter”

Since: Sep 07

how small.

#8 Apr 5, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
<quoted text>I think many are simply incapable of thinking for themselves, need something/someone to villify in order to feel better about themselves and have an inability to allow other points of view.
I've seen many of you (not you personally) rip Pupsy to shreds and call her "pro-abortion" when you (again, not you personally) know she isn't. I've seen her post that she would die herself before having an abortion (which, in my opinion, is reckless given the fact that she has other children). Can you get more PL than that? You tell me.....why does that happen?
I find that first comment interesting as many have said that I don't think for myself, which is so completely false. Not only do I think for myself, but it something that I spend most of my day doing and it has worked out very well for me and my family.

I see where some of us are not working together, and some that think others are not doing enough and it is frustrating when you know the end result of not doing enough is more dead babies. You can't be all things to all people, but tearing each other down is not helpful, unless you plan to help build them back up, and there is some danger in doing that with out the other persons cooperation.

Pupsy I think realizes that earthly end is not the real end, but just the beginning and there comes great graces that follow when one gives their life for another, and though it is tough to measure, it is sometimes plain to see.
True Republican

Celina, TX

#9 Apr 5, 2010
Abortion violates civil rights of men, and the child that is murdered. I was taught in 6th grade how babies are created, and I am sure that most Americans were. If you take the action to create a child then you should be responsible enough to bear the child. We have much more knowledge about science now than when roe v Wade was passed. It should be overturned.
123getout

Annapolis, MD

#10 Apr 5, 2010
True Republican wrote:
Abortion violates civil rights of men, and the child that is murdered. I was taught in 6th grade how babies are created, and I am sure that most Americans were. If you take the action to create a child then you should be responsible enough to bear the child. We have much more knowledge about science now than when roe v Wade was passed. It should be overturned.
Let me guess...you are a man? This brilliant statement above- what about rape? incest? The majority of Americans are - pro-choice. Save your breath Roe v. Wade will never ever be overturned. The vast majority of American women have had abortions (I personally know of many) who have NOT suffered from the "supposed" long term effects of having an abortions - as the pro-life right says. The women I know who have had abortions are....relieved. Like it or hate- it's a reality.

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#11 Apr 5, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>I find that first comment interesting as many have said that I don't think for myself, which is so completely false. Not only do I think for myself, but it something that I spend most of my day doing and it has worked out very well for me and my family.
I see where some of us are not working together, and some that think others are not doing enough and it is frustrating when you know the end result of not doing enough is more dead babies. You can't be all things to all people, but tearing each other down is not helpful, unless you plan to help build them back up, and there is some danger in doing that with out the other persons cooperation.
Pupsy I think realizes that earthly end is not the real end, but just the beginning and there comes great graces that follow when one gives their life for another, and though it is tough to measure, it is sometimes plain to see.
Could you comment as to why several on your side of the isle have taken to calling Pupsy "pro-abortion" when ALL of you know this is simply not true? Why do you (collectively) eat your own and behave this way?

“A person is a person no matter”

Since: Sep 07

how small.

#12 Apr 6, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
<quoted text>Could you comment as to why several on your side of the isle have taken to calling Pupsy "pro-abortion" when ALL of you know this is simply not true? Why do you (collectively) eat your own and behave this way?
I can't tell you their specific reasons, but I can speculate that it is because she has gone against things that she has stood up for in the past, I can also tell you that she has done to them what she says they have done to you all. Her behavior has them confused, especially those whom were her friends. Also it appears to them and to me, that she has failed to stand up for the unborn child, just to get in with those on the opposite side. I think many gave her some time, to see how that worked out, but it has failed to show any foward progress in the defense of the unborn child. Yes you all seem to defend her, but not her position or the postition that we all came here to defend and that is the position of the unborn child who is the real victim of abortion.

I think further, when a person wavers back in forth, it does nothing for giving creedence to their postition, mainly because it looks like they don't really believe it themselves. Now I know pupsy is pro-life, but I have tried to talk to pupsy about what is going on, and I tried to do it in private and I got attacked and my intentions were twisted by her and though I occasionly try, I get so little response or no response from her, that I am left funcused.

“Blessed Be”

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#13 Apr 6, 2010
True Republican wrote:
Abortion violates civil rights of men, and the child that is murdered. I was taught in 6th grade how babies are created, and I am sure that most Americans were. If you take the action to create a child then you should be responsible enough to bear the child. We have much more knowledge about science now than when roe v Wade was passed. It should be overturned.
Choice does not violate any man's civil rights, it is not murder, no child is killed-children are already born.

“Blessed Be”

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#14 Apr 6, 2010
True Republican wrote:
Abortion violates civil rights of men, and the child that is murdered. I was taught in 6th grade how babies are created, and I am sure that most Americans were. If you take the action to create a child then you should be responsible enough to bear the child. We have much more knowledge about science now than when roe v Wade was passed. It should be overturned.
Oh, and BTW, you need to change your screen name, because it's a lie. A TRUE Republican would be as against gov't interference in THIS personal matter, as they are in every OTHER personal matter.

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#15 Apr 6, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>I can't tell you their specific reasons, but I can speculate that it is because she has gone against things that she has stood up for in the past, I can also tell you that she has done to them what she says they have done to you all. Her behavior has them confused, especially those whom were her friends. Also it appears to them and to me, that she has failed to stand up for the unborn child, just to get in with those on the opposite side. I think many gave her some time, to see how that worked out, but it has failed to show any foward progress in the defense of the unborn child. Yes you all seem to defend her, but not her position or the postition that we all came here to defend and that is the position of the unborn child who is the real victim of abortion.
I think further, when a person wavers back in forth, it does nothing for giving creedence to their postition, mainly because it looks like they don't really believe it themselves. Now I know pupsy is pro-life, but I have tried to talk to pupsy about what is going on, and I tried to do it in private and I got attacked and my intentions were twisted by her and though I occasionly try, I get so little response or no response from her, that I am left funcused.
Where has she waivered on her position? Can you honestly say you (or anyone in their right mind) could possibly consider her "pro-abortion?"
PastorBob666

Centreville, VA

#16 Apr 6, 2010
<<<<Abortion violates civil rights of men,>>

No it doesn't. When men can gestate a fetus, they have the same right as women to control who or what uses their bodily organs for life support.

<<<and the child that is murdered. >>

1) No "children are "murdered" by abortion.

2) a fetus has no civil rights.

<<<<I was taught in 6th grade how babies are created, and I am sure that most Americans were.>>

I knew when I was 5 where infants came from. My mom told me when my brother was born.

<<<<If you take the action to create a child then you should be responsible enough to bear the child.>>

Abortion is a very responsible action if you don't want to be gravid. Consent to have sex isn't consent to gestate a fetus. What if YOU knock someone up? You can just walk away.... You don't have to gestate it... In fact, if she keeps it, you will try to dodge child support for as long as possible until your partner's lawyer tracks you down and gets the court to force you to pay!

<<<We have much more knowledge about science now than when roe v Wade was passed. It should be overturned. >>

Roe isn't based on science... it is based on civil rights!

“A person is a person no matter”

Since: Sep 07

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#17 Apr 6, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
<quoted text>Where has she waivered on her position? Can you honestly say you (or anyone in their right mind) could possibly consider her "pro-abortion?"
I will only speak for myself here, but I can say she has waivered a significant amount from her position of the importantance of standing up for the developing babies in the womb, and that was most certainly noticed when she was not willing to continue to do so and not give a good reason, why not! Not only that, but she has been on a rampage to bash those who stood up for her when she was attacked and has refused to have meaningful discussion as to why that is with us. It has been this is the new me and if you don't like it, you can take it or leave it.

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

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#18 Apr 6, 2010
marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>I will only speak for myself here, but I can say she has waivered a significant amount from her position of the importantance of standing up for the developing babies in the womb, and that was most certainly noticed when she was not willing to continue to do so and not give a good reason, why not! Not only that, but she has been on a rampage to bash those who stood up for her when she was attacked and has refused to have meaningful discussion as to why that is with us. It has been this is the new me and if you don't like it, you can take it or leave it.
Why are you avoiding the question. Do you think it's fair to call her "pro-abortion?"
True Republican

Dallas, TX

#19 Apr 6, 2010
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Choice does not violate any man's civil rights, it is not murder, no child is killed-children are already born.
I respectfuly disagree. If a woman is pregnant with my child then I should have half the choice on whether the child lives or dies. Women do not get pregnant without men, yet they have the power to decide to murder the child or if the man pays child support. That is a violation of a mans civil rights. If a man does not want the child then why can't he waive his rights and not pay child support, or tell the woman to have an abortion?

“Blessed Be”

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#20 Apr 6, 2010
True Republican wrote:
<quoted text> I respectfuly disagree. If a woman is pregnant with my child then I should have half the choice on whether the child lives or dies. Women do not get pregnant without men, yet they have the power to decide to murder the child or if the man pays child support. That is a violation of a mans civil rights. If a man does not want the child then why can't he waive his rights and not pay child support, or tell the woman to have an abortion?
None of this proves that any man's civil rights are viotated. What right, specifically, are you talking about? Men and women BOTH have the right to the privacy of their own body. Once your sperm leaves your body, it's no longer yours.

1)Abortion is not murder.
2)A z/e/f is not a child.
3)The woman doesn't dictate child support, the state does. And there are states where he CAN waive his parental rights, and not pay. Take it up with your state about the child support laws.

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