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Senate begins anticipated health care overhaul debate

There are 31 comments on the Northwest Herald story from Dec 1, 2009, titled Senate begins anticipated health care overhaul debate. In it, Northwest Herald reports that:

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich. and Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, pick up a copy of the house health care bill HB-3962 after they took it up the steps to the House after a rally Nov.

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Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Norwich, CT

#22 Dec 2, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
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I love my country; what's your excuse?
Your Demented paranoia is not an excuse.
No, you don't. You hate everything it stands for and was founded on. You hate the Constitution. You are a communist and you are nothing but a threat to the sovereignty and prosperity of this country, regardless if you are aware of it or not.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#23 Dec 3, 2009
Konnecticut_Better_Yet wrote:
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No, you don't. You hate everything it stands for and was founded on. You hate the Constitution. You are a communist and you are nothing but a threat to the sovereignty and prosperity of this country, regardless if you are aware of it or not.
You are deeply troublesd; and detached from reality. I think you are having an episode right now.

I urge you to use this link:
http://www.wellness.com/find/psychiatrist/ct

Good luck.

“Time to take back America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#24 Dec 3, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
I'm sorry that you feel threatened.
Think of what you are afraid of:
"...a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."
That is not what is happening here. Not at all. Were it so, We might meet in the trenches.
Oh really? You don't think fascism is happening? Obama suppresses any criticism. Look how he eviscerates Fox news. Obamas not regimenting industry and commerce? The banking industry, the auto industry, the healthcare industry. Give me a break.
Mr_Bill wrote:
What we are doing now is moving, as a people, into the 21st Century.
Nice way to put it. We are doing what Obama promised, fundamentally changing the United States of America into a socialist republic where everything revolves around the central government and liberties and rights of the individual are obliterated.
Mr_Bill wrote:
We are reacting to a very opportunistic, greedy, and incompetant previous administration.
The previous administration has nothing to do with what Obama is doing now. This is a pathetic excuse you are using to subvert our constitution that was set up to limit the power of the government and guarantee the rights of the individual. Progressivism is like cancer.
Mr_Bill wrote:
The total loss of control of regulation was the hallmark of our failure for the last eight years,
Wrong! the hallmark of our failure was liberal government intervention into the free banking market. Fannie and Freddie, under liberal control, influenced by liberals like Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd and legislation like the community reinvestment act created the sub prime loan market which lead us to where we are today. It's social engineering and liberal policy in the name of spreading the wealth and economic justice which has put us into this deep recession that Obama now owns. Obama got everything he wanted, trillions in social programs and government expansion which they promised would thwart unemployment to more more than 8%. What a sad state of affairs that now the president holds a "jobs summit" and blames capitalism and private industry for his own failures and ineptitude to create jobs. If he wanted to create jobs he could simply get the hell out of the way.
Mr_Bill wrote:
Think: WE need a regulated capitalism to work with our Democratic Republic. That is the only way it will stay in balance.
We will never be in balance when our congress and president are spending trillions on top of trillions putting us into such dept our grandchildren could never pay it back. Regulation, Taxation and Legislation, it's all you liberals know.
Mr_Bill wrote:
Our Corporations need regulation FAR MORE than we individuals need the Ten Commandments. We have an inbred sense of wrong and right.
"Industry" has no such sense. The only right for a corporation is maximized profit in the next quarter. Polution, free enterprise and competition, decency to workers and community, fairness, honesty, commitment, all go out the corporate window without regulation.
Do you really believe this dribble? Employment at any corp. is not a prison. If you do not like your working conditions you are free to leave and work somewhere else. You liberals demonize profit yet you have no problem letting the central state be the one and only captain of industry where the little people have no recourse.

“Time to take back America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#25 Dec 3, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
The terms "left" and 'right' have lost all meaning in our society. I am so far right, I seem liberal to most people. What we now call our "right" is actually a combination of theocrats and lilly-livered Marxists.
Our greatest 'Christians' are all rich bastards; snd few Christians today even 'get' Jesus.
Our fellow citizens are twisted with hate, they hate the poor, the homosexualists, the blacks, the Mexicans, the truly free.
Our country is a continuing experiment in Democracy. Don't turn your back when she needs you the most; and don't forget what she REALLY stands for.
What our country really stands for is liberty, not tyranny. Speaking of hate, read your own posts. The conservative insurrection is coming. It took Jimmy Carter to get Ronald Reagan. We will survive the liberal, socialist, marxist onslaught by Obama. See you at the polls.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#26 Dec 6, 2009
sandman21 wrote:
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Oh really? You don't think fascism is happening? Obama suppresses any criticism. Look how he eviscerates Fox news. Obamas not regimenting industry and commerce? The banking industry, the auto industry, the healthcare industry. Give me a break.
<quoted text>
Nice way to put it. We are doing what Obama promised, fundamentally changing the United States of America into a socialist republic where everything revolves around the central government and liberties and rights of the individual are obliterated.
<quoted text>
The previous administration has nothing to do with what Obama is doing now. This is a pathetic excuse you are using to subvert our constitution that was set up to limit the power of the government and guarantee the rights of the individual. Progressivism is like cancer.
<quoted text>
Wrong! the hallmark of our failure was liberal government intervention into the free banking market. Fannie and Freddie, under liberal control, influenced by liberals like Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd and legislation like the community reinvestment act created the sub prime loan market which lead us to where we are today. It's social engineering and liberal policy in the name of spreading the wealth and economic justice which has put us into this deep recession that Obama now owns. Obama got everything he wanted, trillions in social programs and government expansion which they promised would thwart unemployment to more more than 8%. What a sad state of affairs that now the president holds a "jobs summit" and blames capitalism and private industry for his own failures and ineptitude to create jobs. If he wanted to create jobs he could simply get the hell out of the way.
<quoted text>
We will never be in balance when our congress and president are spending trillions on top of trillions putting us into such dept our grandchildren could never pay it back. Regulation, Taxation and Legislation, it's all you liberals know.
<quoted text>
Do you really believe this dribble? Employment at any corp. is not a prison. If you do not like your working conditions you are free to leave and work somewhere else. You liberals demonize profit yet you have no problem letting the central state be the one and only captain of industry where the little people have no recourse.
No, times six.

Your world-view is generatied by a completely predjudiced view.

You cannot comprehend that the horrors Aamericans have been experiencing since 2001 is your fault; and caused by your votes.

President Obama is repairing the damage done by your foolish voting; but there has been great damage, and it will tke years.

You are hopeless.
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Norwich, CT

#27 Dec 6, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
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No, times six.
Your world-view is generatied by a completely predjudiced view.
You cannot comprehend that the horrors Aamericans have been experiencing since 2001 is your fault; and caused by your votes.
President Obama is repairing the damage done by your foolish voting; but there has been great damage, and it will tke years.
You are hopeless.
lol! You never fail to crack me up, Ms. Bill. Exactly what "horrors" have Americans been experiencing during the "previous administration?"

I'll give you the people of New Orleans during Katrina, though that was caused by a natural disaster. Please, do tell Ms. Bill

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#28 Dec 7, 2009
Konnecticut_Better_Yet wrote:
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lol! You never fail to crack me up, Ms. Bill. Exactly what "horrors" have Americans been experiencing during the "previous administration?"
I'll give you the people of New Orleans during Katrina, though that was caused by a natural disaster. Please, do tell Ms. Bill
Condaliza Rice could have stopped the terrorists of September 11th if she had been competant enough to do her job. All the information from the CIA, the FBI, and especially the FBI agent who had picked up the plot was sent up the line.

Do not forget that George W Bush ordered that any intelligence pointing toward his sponsors, The Saudi Royal Family, or the Saudis, be deep-sixed.
The FBI reports were dead-ended; and 16 of the 18 9/11/'01 terroristts were Saudis. The Saudi Royal Family paid for Bin Laden's organization through their various 'charities.'
There would have been no invasion of Iraq; and Saddaam Hussain (creature of our CIA that he was) could have been turned around, and the balance of power game could have been continued with Iran.

Now, Iran has no Iraq to hold it in check.'Great job, Georgie.'

The whole Electricity rip-off of ENRON, and its' little imitators would not have pumped $$$ Billions from the rate-paters of California. ENRON brought California to the brink of bankruptcy; and the problems they have today are a direct result of the Bush-Gingrich energy de-regulation.

Gasoline prices: what restrictions, or 'jawboning' did the Bush administration put upon the oil companies?
As far as I can tell, they told them to have a party; Go crazy.
And they did.

The de-regulation of lending precipitateed the credit crisis, which precipitasted the Mortgage Crisis; which precipitated the BUSH DEPRESSION.

The Continuous support of Corporate Profits to the point of encouraging American Companies to move off-shore to maximize profit at the cost of American jobs wa Bush's "finest moment."

You mention New Orleans. NEVER FORGET that not one person was killed there by Hurricane Katrina.
They all died when the mal-maintained levees went, 24 hours later.
Where did the levee maintenance money go?
Iraq.

The Bush White House knew the levees were failing; and only because they were so incompetant, did they not issue immediate alarms to everyone. They failed the basic test of the presidentcy. They failed to protect us again and again.

You and those who think as you do would profit from learning about the actions of "Coleen Rowley" and "Richard Clarke"

I don't know why you are laughing.
None of this is funny.
Unless you are Al Qaeda.

http://www.google.com/search...

http://www.google.com/search...

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#29 Dec 7, 2009
sandman21 wrote:
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What our country really stands for is liberty, not tyranny. Speaking of hate, read your own posts. The conservative insurrection is coming. It took Jimmy Carter to get Ronald Reagan. We will survive the liberal, socialist, marxist onslaught by Obama. See you at the polls.
Do not confuse reality with hate.
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Norwich, CT

#30 Dec 7, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Condaliza Rice could have stopped the terrorists of September 11th if she had been competant enough to do her job. All the information from the CIA, the FBI, and especially the FBI agent who had picked up the plot was sent up the line.
Do not forget that George W Bush ordered that any intelligence pointing toward his sponsors, The Saudi Royal Family, or the Saudis, be deep-sixed.
The FBI reports were dead-ended; and 16 of the 18 9/11/'01 terroristts were Saudis. The Saudi Royal Family paid for Bin Laden's organization through their various 'charities.'
There would have been no invasion of Iraq; and Saddaam Hussain (creature of our CIA that he was) could have been turned around, and the balance of power game could have been continued with Iran.
Now, Iran has no Iraq to hold it in check.'Great job, Georgie.'
The whole Electricity rip-off of ENRON, and its' little imitators would not have pumped $$$ Billions from the rate-paters of California. ENRON brought California to the brink of bankruptcy; and the problems they have today are a direct result of the Bush-Gingrich energy de-regulation.
Gasoline prices: what restrictions, or 'jawboning' did the Bush administration put upon the oil companies?
As far as I can tell, they told them to have a party; Go crazy.
And they did.
The de-regulation of lending precipitateed the credit crisis, which precipitasted the Mortgage Crisis; which precipitated the BUSH DEPRESSION.
The Continuous support of Corporate Profits to the point of encouraging American Companies to move off-shore to maximize profit at the cost of American jobs wa Bush's "finest moment."
You mention New Orleans. NEVER FORGET that not one person was killed there by Hurricane Katrina.
They all died when the mal-maintained levees went, 24 hours later.
Where did the levee maintenance money go?
Iraq.
The Bush White House knew the levees were failing; and only because they were so incompetant, did they not issue immediate alarms to everyone. They failed the basic test of the presidentcy. They failed to protect us again and again.
You and those who think as you do would profit from learning about the actions of "Coleen Rowley" and "Richard Clarke"
I don't know why you are laughing.
None of this is funny.
Unless you are Al Qaeda.
http://www.google.com/search...
http://www.google.com/search...
...Or a blind follower with the common sense god gave a toad.

You. You just eat up whatever your handlers dangle in front of your beak, don't you? Unreal. You really need to be deprogrammed, drone.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#31 Dec 7, 2009
Konnecticut_Better_Yet wrote:
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...Or a blind follower with the common sense god gave a toad.
You. You just eat up whatever your handlers dangle in front of your beak, don't you? Unreal. You really need to be deprogrammed, drone.
The truth really does hurt & repel you, don't it?
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Norwich, CT

#32 Dec 7, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
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The truth really does hurt & repel you, don't it?
Nope. Not in the least wackjob.

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