Hayden Says CIA Videotapes Destroyed

Hayden Says CIA Videotapes Destroyed

There are 69 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 7, 2007, titled Hayden Says CIA Videotapes Destroyed. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The CIA destroyed videotapes it made in 2002 of two top terror suspects because it was afraid that keeping them "posed a security risk," Director Michael Hayden has told agency employees.

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Bob

United States

#1 Dec 7, 2007
These people are prisioners of war. In my opinion they are subject to the military courts only. They do not have the rights of American citizens. The military need only determine that they are aiding and abeting the enemy.

War is hell.
Lauren Order

Springfield, IL

#2 Dec 7, 2007
"Never put anything on tape that you don't want to see or hear again in court."

Richard M Nixon
what the heck

Galloway, OH

#4 Dec 7, 2007
so now bush's bunch are destroying tapes...hardly a surprise to me! Sounds a bit Nixonian (spell that Republican)!

“Think... Feel... Breathe”

Since: Nov 07

Chicago, IL

#5 Dec 7, 2007
Thanks Bob,

Thats the exact attitude that causes a never ending cycle of violence. Way to embrace our violent culture.
Jason

Woodridge, IL

#6 Dec 7, 2007
What if another country applied the same logic to one of our own soldiers, Bob.

I'm a patriot through and through, but you can't torture people from other countries then cry bloody murder when one of your own is tortured.

McCain is the only one who "gets it", probably because he was tortured himself.
chicago

Notre Dame, IN

#7 Dec 7, 2007
very insightful bob. i further suggest that the CIA bolt their limbs to the floor of a metal cage in a 32-degree icebox, allow them to defecate and urinate on themselves, blare metallica at 150 decibels into their cages and beat them senseless to show them how proud we are to be americans. or even worse. we should make them ride the CTA.
TOM SLICK

Chicago, IL

#10 Dec 7, 2007
Not surprised the tapes were destroyed. The bush administration is so corrupt that america will become every countries enemy. When the tables are turned down the road, don't complain.
Alz

Chicago, IL

#12 Dec 7, 2007
Bob wrote:
These people are prisioners of war. In my opinion they are subject to the military courts only. They do not have the rights of American citizens. The military need only determine that they are aiding and abeting the enemy.
War is hell.
You are right, but they are not Prisoners of War. Read the Geneva Convention. When someone is a POW they are afforded all sorts of rights. These people have no such rights - no Habeas Corpus, etc. That's why the Liberals want to push these people into the civilian court system - so these people magically gain all sorts of rigthts that they don't deserve.

Many people ask why the liberals would want to give them rights that they don't deserve. When you think about it, it's very strange. To Liberals, these terrorists are victims. As hard as it is to understand, that's how twisted these Liberals are. Watch this video by Evan Sayet as he explains what he calls "Modern Liberals":

It's called "How Modern Liberals Think" and it's phenomenal.

It's an eye opening explanation about why these Liberals are like they are. You'll need some quiet time and make sure you see the Q&A at the end. I've watched parts of it many times.

Concerning these CIA tapes, while it is unclear what happened (time will tell), I suspect that the same Liberals who want to give the terrorists rights that they don't deserve, pushed out this story to further hinder our ability to fight terrorism. Watch that video and you'll see why.

As we have all seen, the Liberals want us to lose in Iraq. It's all very hard to believe but it's true and Evan's video puts it all into perspective. Watch the video!
Phil

Des Plaines, IL

#13 Dec 7, 2007
Is anybody really surprised
Coco

Roselle, IL

#14 Dec 7, 2007
Bob wrote:
These people are prisioners of war. In my opinion they are subject to the military courts only. They do not have the rights of American citizens. The military need only determine that they are aiding and abeting the enemy.
War is hell.
100% agreed!
Thomas

Mishawaka, IN

#15 Dec 7, 2007
Listen, there wasn't much on that tape. And, if there was i'm sure it wasn't relevant to the cases at hand.
Jin

Mishawaka, IN

#16 Dec 7, 2007
I worked as a liaison with the Laotian government during the late 1970's. And, there is clear international precedent that supports the fact that enemy non-combatants have no civilian rights. When we attempted to recover the POW/MIA's in Laos, the position of the Laotian government was that the Americans were enemy non-combatants. Ultimately, the US had to agree and walk away because the principle is so important. This hurts the 600 or so US families involved, but those who signed up--understood the risks.

The same principle goes here, these al-qaeda types signed up to a "war" with no true combatant designation.
Reality

Glen Ellyn, IL

#17 Dec 7, 2007
TOM SLICK wrote:
Not surprised the tapes were destroyed. The bush administration is so corrupt that america will become every countries enemy. When the tables are turned down the road, don't complain.
Ya, and Hillary refuses to release her papers from her "term" as first lady!!! What could be so damaging in the records of a first lady (not an elected position with no constitutional power)???
Zero Sum

Saint Petersburg, FL

#19 Dec 7, 2007
what the heck wrote:
so now bush's bunch are destroying tapes...hardly a surprise to me! Sounds a bit Nixonian (spell that Republican)!
How about the Clinton cronie's removal of documents from the national archives?
Russ

Chesterfield, MO

#22 Dec 7, 2007
Many of the prisoners that were released by USA went back to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan and have been recaptured.

They should have been tried and executed the first time.
Nathaniel

Moline, IL

#23 Dec 7, 2007
Phil wrote:
Is anybody really surprised
Nope, this stuff happens all the time when you live in a fascist state like the USA has become over the past 6 years.
Russ

Chesterfield, MO

#24 Dec 7, 2007
Nathaniel wrote:
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Nope, this stuff happens all the time when you live in a fascist state like the USA has become over the past 6 years.
Fascist only if you are a terrorist.
syj

Scipio, IN

#26 Dec 7, 2007
Bob wrote:
These people are prisioners of war. In my opinion they are subject to the military courts only. They do not have the rights of American citizens. The military need only determine that they are aiding and abeting the enemy.
War is hell.
And Bush should be tried as a war criminal in international courts. War is hell and Bush is the Devil.
Tom

Mishawaka, IN

#27 Dec 7, 2007
American follows its rule. America does play fair. Back in the 70's American let 600 POW/MIA's stay in jail in Laos because it was the right thing to do. They realized it was an illegal war and understood these were illegal enemy combatants. They agreed to leave them there. This was the correct and legal thing to do.

We are following our own rules and rightfully so. Illegal enemy combatants have not rights. So don't accuse the US of not "playing fair".
Nathaniel wrote:
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Nope, this stuff happens all the time when you live in a fascist state like the USA has become over the past 6 years.
Nathaniel

Moline, IL

#28 Dec 7, 2007
Tom wrote:
American follows its rule. America does play fair. Back in the 70's American let 600 POW/MIA's stay in jail in Laos because it was the right thing to do. They realized it was an illegal war and understood these were illegal enemy combatants. They agreed to leave them there. This was the correct and legal thing to do.
We are following our own rules and rightfully so. Illegal enemy combatants have not rights. So don't accuse the US of not "playing fair".
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It isn't a matter of playing fair. Since September 11, 2001, the USA has been on a spiraling course towards dictatorship. The executive branch has expanded powers beyond belief with the support of a complacent, yes-man Republican congress. It has become all about the greater good of the homeland over the good of the people that inhabit it. A little give here, a little give there, and you'll soon find what has been given up is beyond your imagination. A country paranoid about a particular ethnicity...ready and willing to invade other countries on marginal, if any, logical reasoning...dedicated to preserving the homeland... Does this sound like Nazi Germany to anyone else? Hitler came to power legally and sculpted the country much the same way that Bush has done in the past 6 years. Don't fear terrorists, fear your own government.

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