House GOP ponders next move in shutdo...

House GOP ponders next move in shutdown fight

There are 87 comments on the Politico story from Sep 26, 2013, titled House GOP ponders next move in shutdown fight. In it, Politico reports that:

House Republicans retreat Thursday morning to a closed party meeting at which they will begin plotting their next move in the government funding battle.

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Gary

Bellingham, WA

#1 Sep 26, 2013
Next Move?

May I suggest mass suicide?

I mean, the country would be so much better off.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#2 Sep 26, 2013
They should move on and read "Cat in the Hat"
Osama Obama

Shippensburg, PA

#3 Sep 26, 2013
The Farm Animals book is what you should read.
Obama is a Horses Rosette

Sayville, NY

#4 Sep 26, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
They should move on and read "Cat in the Hat"
Why don't you try reading the Constitution, numb-nuts?

Since: Aug 12

Buffalo, NY

#5 Sep 26, 2013
They surrender and say they won at the same time.....
then they will be telling their grandkids...about how they stood up to Obama when he was ready to destroy AFA

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#6 Sep 26, 2013
A few simple facts:
.If there is a shutdown, a majority of Americans will blame the Republican party.

.Therefore, if the Republicans let that happen, they will no longer be a viable party.(I have mixed feelings about this.)

.If there is a government shutdown, "Obamacare" will not be affected, since it's initiation is already paid for.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#7 Sep 26, 2013
Obama is a Horses Rosette wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you try reading the Constitution, numb-nuts?
Sounds like you've read it and it's done nothing for you as you and your ilk don't believe or have much respect for Equal Justice or the Supreme Law of the land.

You guys are in opposition to the Constitution and support states rights, which is a inline with the Feudalism system and Feudal Lords
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Sep 26, 2013
Osama Obama wrote:
The Farm Animals book is what you should read.
I assume you meant "Animal Farm."
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Sep 26, 2013
Will Obama ever get the nerve to arrest those criminal republicans who openly commit treason, openly call for the destruction of the United States, and keep them in jail for life?

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#10 Sep 26, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
A few simple facts:
.If there is a shutdown, a majority of Americans will blame the Republican party.
.Therefore, if the Republicans let that happen, they will no longer be a viable party.(I have mixed feelings about this.)
.If there is a government shutdown, "Obamacare" will not be affected, since it's initiation is already paid for.
You're probably correct about the majority of Americans blaming the Republican Party when the Government shuts down.
This is because the media are ignoring a few simple facts

First, ask yourself why we are in this situation again? Isn't it because Obama has overspent again? He agreed to operate within budget that included a deficit of $973 billion. He didn't do it and is now asking for a larger deficit. If he honored his agreement, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Second, ask yourself who has presented a plan for avoiding a Government shutdown. Isn't the answer the Republican Party? Yes, this plan includes defunding Obamacare, but it's the Democrat Party who are rejecting the plan. So, why is the blame to be placed with the Republicans? Wouldn't a shutdown resulting from the Democrat rejection of the Republican plan rightly place the blame with the Democrats?

Third, and finally, it he Republican plan represents the will of the American people. The majority want the Government to reduce spending; not continually ignore budgets that include outrageously high deficits. The current budgeted deficit is the first one that Obama had that was under a trillion dollars and he wants to spend even more. Also, most Americans want to stop Obamacare. That's a hard fact demonstrated by every poll I've seen. And the polls are not even close on this issue. The American people, unions and businesses are all complaining. Even Obama is delaying its implementation, so what's the big deal about cutting funding this year?

Since: Aug 12

Buffalo, NY

#11 Sep 26, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
You're probably correct about the majority of Americans blaming the Republican Party when the Government shuts down.
This is because the media are ignoring a few simple facts
First, ask yourself why we are in this situation again? Isn't it because Obama has overspent again? He agreed to operate within budget that included a deficit of $973 billion. He didn't do it and is now asking for a larger deficit. If he honored his agreement, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Second, ask yourself who has presented a plan for avoiding a Government shutdown. Isn't the answer the Republican Party? Yes, this plan includes defunding Obamacare, but it's the Democrat Party who are rejecting the plan. So, why is the blame to be placed with the Republicans? Wouldn't a shutdown resulting from the Democrat rejection of the Republican plan rightly place the blame with the Democrats?
Third, and finally, it he Republican plan represents the will of the American people. The majority want the Government to reduce spending; not continually ignore budgets that include outrageously high deficits. The current budgeted deficit is the first one that Obama had that was under a trillion dollars and he wants to spend even more. Also, most Americans want to stop Obamacare. That's a hard fact demonstrated by every poll I've seen. And the polls are not even close on this issue. The American people, unions and businesses are all complaining. Even Obama is delaying its implementation, so what's the big deal about cutting funding this year?
first the truth is not that simple
second the GOP knew AFA would never be de funded..well before they drew their bill up..so the house voted on something DOA hardly the Presidents fault
Third if a majority of the American people are with the GOP how come The President won re-election?
The president must be the will of the people in some way...what way?
Obama is a Horses Rosette

Sayville, NY

#12 Sep 26, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
They should move on and read "Cat in the Hat"
Sounds like you and O'dumbell have spent too much time reading the Communist Manifesto.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#13 Sep 26, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
You're probably correct about the majority of Americans blaming the Republican Party when the Government shuts down.
This is because the media are ignoring a few simple facts
First, ask yourself why we are in this situation again? Isn't it because Obama has overspent again? He agreed to operate within budget that included a deficit of $973 billion. He didn't do it and is now asking for a larger deficit. If he honored his agreement, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Second, ask yourself who has presented a plan for avoiding a Government shutdown. Isn't the answer the Republican Party? Yes, this plan includes defunding Obamacare, but it's the Democrat Party who are rejecting the plan. So, why is the blame to be placed with the Republicans? Wouldn't a shutdown resulting from the Democrat rejection of the Republican plan rightly place the blame with the Democrats?
Third, and finally, it he Republican plan represents the will of the American people. The majority want the Government to reduce spending; not continually ignore budgets that include outrageously high deficits. The current budgeted deficit is the first one that Obama had that was under a trillion dollars and he wants to spend even more. Also, most Americans want to stop Obamacare. That's a hard fact demonstrated by every poll I've seen. And the polls are not even close on this issue. The American people, unions and businesses are all complaining. Even Obama is delaying its implementation, so what's the big deal about cutting funding this year?
First of all, when Medicare was about to begin, in 1965, conservatives strongly opposed it. Today virtually everyone agrees that it is a successful program. Now we find opposition to "Obamacare", mostly again by conservatives. Just as it was then, people did not understand the provisions of the program. In time, when it is fully in place, people will embrace it when they experience its benefits.

Yes, Republicans have presented a "plan" to avoid a government shutdown. Since it includes de-funding of the Affordable Care Act, it is not so much a plan as an act of desperation. It cannot and will not succeed.

As to Obama's spending, here are a couple of facts:
.True, Obama has spent more that his predecessor.
.However, it is also true that every president since Hoover has spent more than his predecessor.
.Finally, Obama's increased spending is the lowest percentagewise of any president since Hoover.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#14 Sep 26, 2013
Buffalo Bull wrote:
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first the truth is not that simple
second the GOP knew AFA would never be de funded..well before they drew their bill up..so the house voted on something DOA hardly the Presidents fault
Third if a majority of the American people are with the GOP how come The President won re-election?
The president must be the will of the people in some way...what way?
It's ultimately the President's fault because the President blew the budget. We would not be having this discussion if the President spent only $973 billon more than we don't have. That is my primary point. If the President didn't overspend, there would be no issue. How is that the fault of the Republican Party?

You should be aware that elections are won and lost based on many issues. The fact is that there has never been a time when the majority of Americans wanted Obamacare. The fact is that today the American people prefer what existed before 2010 than wht Obamacare is promised to provide.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#15 Sep 26, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, when Medicare was about to begin, in 1965, conservatives strongly opposed it. Today virtually everyone agrees that it is a successful program. Now we find opposition to "Obamacare", mostly again by conservatives. Just as it was then, people did not understand the provisions of the program. In time, when it is fully in place, people will embrace it when they experience its benefits.
Yes, Republicans have presented a "plan" to avoid a government shutdown. Since it includes de-funding of the Affordable Care Act, it is not so much a plan as an act of desperation. It cannot and will not succeed.
As to Obama's spending, here are a couple of facts:
.True, Obama has spent more that his predecessor.
.However, it is also true that every president since Hoover has spent more than his predecessor.
.Finally, Obama's increased spending is the lowest percentagewise of any president since Hoover.
You want to talk about history? Didn't the Democrats form the core of the KKK.
This is no more relevant to the discussion at hand than what you claim happened in 1965. I'll bet most of those people who were against Medicare in 1965 are neither for nor against Obamacare today.

The fact is that most Americans today do not want Obamacare. That opinion is held by conservatives and non-conservatives alike. It is held by some unions, for example.
Obama is a Horses Rosette

Sayville, NY

#16 Sep 26, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>
.Finally, Obama's increased spending is the lowest percentagewise of any president since Hoover.
And soon middle class Americans will be reduced to living in "Hoovervilles". Hoover sucks, and so does Obama.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#19 Sep 26, 2013
Obama is a Horses Rosette wrote:
<quoted text>And soon middle class Americans will be reduced to living in "Hoovervilles". Hoover sucks, and so does Obama.
Hoovervilles?

Sounds like a Republican plan for the future.
And without medical care for 60 million people.

Libertarian dystopianism?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20 Sep 26, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
You want to talk about history? Didn't the Democrats form the core of the KKK.
This is no more relevant to the discussion at hand than what you claim happened in 1965. I'll bet most of those people who were against Medicare in 1965 are neither for nor against Obamacare today.
The fact is that most Americans today do not want Obamacare. That opinion is held by conservatives and non-conservatives alike. It is held by some unions, for example.
Really? My dipping into history was directly relevant to the present healthcare situation. Your KKK comment is totally off the wall here, though I would welcome a discussion on the subject at another time.
There is a direct correlation between opposing Obamacare and lack of understanding of it. The more people learn about its provisions, the more they favor it.

Personally, I would trade Obamacare for a single-payer plan, or in other words, Medicare for everyone.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#21 Sep 26, 2013
Obama is a Horses Rosette wrote:
<quoted text>And soon middle class Americans will be reduced to living in "Hoovervilles". Hoover sucks, and so does Obama.
Noted and placed in my "outgoing" file.

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#22 Sep 26, 2013
Don Joe wrote:
Will Obama ever get the nerve to arrest those criminal republicans who openly commit treason, openly call for the destruction of the United States, and keep them in jail for life?
Doing that will be treason and we will arrest him, you and other marxists and send you to gitmo, dkhead.

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