Mormon Leaders Take on Marriage Equal...

Mormon Leaders Take on Marriage Equality in Hawaii

There are 141 comments on the EDGE story from Sep 20, 2013, titled Mormon Leaders Take on Marriage Equality in Hawaii. In it, EDGE reports that:

Although leaders from the Mormon Church have remained out of the gay marriage debate in a number of states as of late, they have recently resurfaced to take on the marriage equality battle in Hawaii, the Salt Lake Tribune reports.

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Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#26 Sep 21, 2013
galler wrote:
Yes I will agree the Mormons should ignore homosexuality. The Mormons should instead promote polygamy.
After all, polygamy is perfectly natural. Polygamy is a time honored practice of many cultures. A man should have all the wives he can afford. Homosexuality is merely an unnatural perversion.
Using a logical fallacy to make your points reveals you to be uneducated and stupid. So it's time for you to shut up.

Oh, and FYI.... polygamy has NEVER been part of American culture.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#27 Sep 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The sexually depraved and maladjusted gays in their arguments and successes concerning "marriage" have opened the door for the same arguments to win rights to polygamy, which Mormons used to practice more widely than it is illegally practiced today. It is a sad day, when perverts are allowed to win standing in the courts and society to a degree, where they can threaten the very foundations of family and values far outlasting their short, diseased lives.
Gee.... you're just full of false information and calumny, aren't you?... and obviously ignorant of how our legal system works, too.

There is no right to polygamy. Polygamy has serious social consequences, of which you are evidently, completely unaware.
Cordwainer Trout

Lexington, KY

#28 Sep 21, 2013
Neil An Blowme wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee.... you're just full of false information and calumny, aren't you?... and obviously ignorant of how our legal system works, too.
There is no right to polygamy. Polygamy has serious social consequences, of which you are evidently, completely unaware.
There is no right to same sex marriage. Same sex marriage has serious social consequences.

If two perverts of the same sex can "marry", then siblings can "marry", three at a time.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#29 Sep 21, 2013
Restrictions on number, incest, age, and informed consent, are entirely different from the restriction on gender. They provide legitimate protections.

The gender restriction protects no one.

Removing gender does not require removing another, very different restriction.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#30 Sep 21, 2013
Same sex couples have the right to have their marriages treated equally under the laws currently in effect for opposite sex couples.

"Congress... cannot deny the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.
...the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

The liberty protected by the Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause contains within it the prohibition against denying to any person the equal protection of the laws. While the Fifth Amendment itself withdraws from the Government the power to degrade or demean in the way this law does, the equal protection guarantee of the Fourteenth Amendment makes that Fifth Amendment right all the more specific and all the better understood and preserved."
Windsor
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#33 Sep 22, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no right to same sex marriage. Same sex marriage has serious social consequences.
If two perverts of the same sex can "marry", then siblings can "marry", three at a time.
SSM has serious social consequences? Really? You have evidence, do ya? I suggest you grab that evidence, hop on your mule, and trot on down to the courthouse. You would be the first person on the planet with evidence.

FYI... making you look like a bigoted fool isn't a social consequence.

I know this will come as a shock to you, living in KY and all, but siblings and polygamists are NOT allowed to marry. That makes all your relatives illegitimate.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#34 Sep 22, 2013
galler wrote:
<quoted text>So says the poofter with a cat for an avatar and his mouth open. LOL
So says the cowardly little liar who is too afraid to register and cannot use the same name for more than 30 seconds at a time.

that's my Luke, who is laughing at cowards and liars.

He was actually yawning, which he does at liars and cowards.
GoatBoy

Honolulu, HI

#35 Oct 1, 2013
III aaaHaave aaaa Looooving relaaaaation wit my goat caaaaaan weee geeeeheeet marriieeed too?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#36 Oct 1, 2013
GoatBoy wrote:
III aaaHaave aaaa Looooving relaaaaation wit my goat caaaaaan weee geeeeheeet marriieeed too?
You should do something about that speech impediment. People might think you're an ignorant jackass.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#37 Oct 1, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no right to same sex marriage. Same sex marriage has serious social consequences.
If two perverts of the same sex can "marry", then siblings can "marry", three at a time.
And voyeurs can watch it all happen. Don't forget your popcorn.
GoatBoy

San Diego, CA

#38 Oct 2, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You should do something about that speech impediment. People might think you're an ignorant jackass.
You Faaaar. Aaart. Box muchaaaaa aaas aaaar soooo judgemental! If yoouuuuu milkee eee lililiiiickers can get married explain wawawhyyyy i cant maaaaary my goat?

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#39 Oct 2, 2013
Marriage is a fundamental human right.

The only qualification for human rights, is being human. Restrictions can be made if they provide a compelling governmental interst, such as protecting children or animals.

Most animals can't pass the age requirement, and none can demonstrate they comprehend and appreciate the consequences of the contract they are entering, as is necessary to demonstrate "informed consent".

But responsiblities go along with marriage and anyone who wants to marry an animal should remember if they ever find one who can meet the requirements of age and informed consent, such an animal would be smart enough to divorce you and take half your stuff.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#40 Oct 2, 2013
On the positive side, absurd arguments demonstrate there is no rational justification for refusing to treat the marriages of same sex couples equally under the laws currently in effect for os couples.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#41 Oct 2, 2013
GoatBoy wrote:
<quoted text> You Faaaar. Aaart. Box muchaaaaa aaas aaaar soooo judgemental! If yoouuuuu milkee eee lililiiiickers can get married explain wawawhyyyy i cant maaaaary my goat?
I don't care if you marry your f''king goat! Go ahead and elope!
missionary man

Clearlake, CA

#42 Oct 4, 2013
The reason the Mormons fight marriage equality so desperately is quite simple.

Their whole cult is based on a concept cooked up by Joseph Smith called "celestial marriage". A man was awarded as many celestial wives as he merited as a good Mormon who obeyed the head prophet.

Women are second class citizens whom the church has assured are not second class citizens and serve these men for eternity as baby factories on the man's very own planet.

There simply is no room for anything other than a patriarchal hierarchy built on celestial marriage between a man and several woman in their belief system!

Since science has found that being gay is something people are born with, the Mormon church has to chose between accepting the proven reality of what is and admitting the religion is totally absurd, or rejecting reality all together and clinging to the primitive belief system of Joseph Smith.

The fact that they are still fighting marriage equality speaks for itself.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#43 Oct 4, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no right to same sex marriage. Same sex marriage has serious social consequences.
If two perverts of the same sex can "marry", then siblings can "marry", three at a time.
Marriage establishes legal kinship between two unrelated people
.
Siblings are already kin; so marriage is superfluous
GoatBoy

Honolulu, HI

#45 Oct 8, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care if you marry your f''king goat! Go ahead and elope!
Laaaaarrrreeeee you faaartbox lickkkerr Iii sa aaaapport Gaaaay Marrrrredorgees tooo. Whyiiiiyiiie you haaaattrin on UUUsss wewwhww want saaaame riiiiights assss yoooou poooole siiiitttttteeeerrrrs.

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#46 Oct 8, 2013
GoatBoy wrote:
you faaartbox lickkkerr
Yeah, this is about the level of intelligence I have come to expect from trolls such as yourself.
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Doylestown, PA

#48 Oct 8, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no right to same sex marriage. Same sex marriage has serious social consequences.
If two perverts of the same sex can "marry", then siblings can "marry", three at a time.
You are a prime example of what happens when first cousins marry and reproduce!
onefour1

Eagle Mountain, UT

#49 Oct 13, 2013
God does not approve of homosexuality:

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:18-32
18 For the awrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, bwho chold the truth in dunrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest ain them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the ainvisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his beternal cpower and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were athankful; but became bvain in their imaginations, and their cfoolish heart was ddarkened.

22 Professing themselves to be awise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the auncorruptible God into an bimage made like to ccorruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also agave them up to buncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God agave them up unto bvile caffections: for even their dwomen did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their alust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to aretain God in their knowledge, God bgave them over to a creprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, awickedness, covetousness, bmaliciousness; full of envy, murder, cdebate, ddeceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 aBackbiters, haters of God, bdespiteful, cproud, dboasters, inventors of evil things, edisobedient to parents,

31 Without aunderstanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of adeath, not only do the same, but bhave cpleasure in them that do them.

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