Hawaii gov. calls special session on gay marriage

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Bebedeez

Honolulu, HI

#42 Sep 14, 2013
Violet wrote:
KGMB manager just said that several schools have room temperatures in excess of 91 degrees Fahrenheit. The money that the Gnome is going to expend on the special session should be used to provide air conditioning for the children - a hot classroom is not an environment conducive to learning.
Just have the Gays blow sweet kisses on a block of ice.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#43 Sep 15, 2013
Flatline wrote:
Genesis 19
King James Version (KJV)
1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
*Pretty obvious that "The Men of Sodom" surrounded Lots House "to have Gay Sex with the two angels who appeared as men..Are Homosexuals.
Mr Graham, Jesus or real Christians do not condem Gays, Adulterers,Rapist or someone who takes one too many newspapers from the newspaper stand they are all just acts of sins, that if one honestly repents WILL Be forgivin.
Wow! Do you really believe GANG RAPE has anything to do with relationships based on mutual love and respect between CONSENTING ADULTS ?

Also consider it is irrational to believe "both old and young, all the people from every quarter" were gay, even if you do mistakenly believe rape and love have anything to do with each other.

Again, the story of Sodom was another of many in support of the Golden Rule. You use it to contradict the golden rule. Sodomites are those who refuse to treat others as they would themselves.
Bebedeez

Honolulu, HI

#44 Sep 15, 2013
http://articles.ky3.com/2013-09-05/missouri-m...

Lets see this is so much love from the gay heart.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#45 Sep 15, 2013
While it should be obvious, it looks like I also need to point out; Adultery, rape, and even theft, all harm others against their will. Clear harm can be shown in every case.

Marriage between two otherwise qualified gay people has nothing to do with intentionally harmful actions against others.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#46 Sep 15, 2013
Most gay men and women are not infected with any disease.

Gay women are the lowest risk group, far behind heterosexual women and men.

Disease transmission information has always been used to demonize and dehumanize populations targeted for punishment.

It was used to justify inter-racial segregation, and continues to be used today, despite the fact straight folks become infected with all of the same diseases, and even more straight people do all of the same activities gay people do.

But more fundamentally, we don't deny equal rights based on disease. Because there are some who would like to do that, we have even had to pass laws protecting people with diseases, birth defects, etc, from discrimination.

Disease transmission information demonstrates the importance of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.

It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.

It fails as an excuse for denial of equal fundamental rights.

Because it provides no legitimate governmental interest, it is nothing more than an attempt to demonize, dehumanize, and rationalize harming gay women and men needlessly.
Bebedeez

Honolulu, HI

#47 Sep 15, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Most gay men and women are not infected with any disease.
Gay women are the lowest risk group, far behind heterosexual women and men.
Disease transmission information has always been used to demonize and dehumanize populations targeted for punishment.
It was used to justify inter-racial segregation, and continues to be used today, despite the fact straight folks become infected with all of the same diseases, and even more straight people do all of the same activities gay people do.
But more fundamentally, we don't deny equal rights based on disease. Because there are some who would like to do that, we have even had to pass laws protecting people with diseases, birth defects, etc, from discrimination.
Disease transmission information demonstrates the importance of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.
It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.
It fails as an excuse for denial of equal fundamental rights.
Because it provides no legitimate governmental interest, it is nothing more than an attempt to demonize, dehumanize, and rationalize harming gay women and men needlessly.
Sorry but (CDC) Center for Disease Control and Prevention says the exact opposite.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/basics/atag...
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#48 Sep 15, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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It fails as an excuse for denial of equal fundamental rights.
...
No one is denying any gay person equal rights. That argument is hollow and has always been hollow. You have every right that anyone else has, including the right to prison time for behavior society finds anathema to a healthy society.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#49 Sep 15, 2013
Bebedeez wrote:
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Sorry but (CDC) Center for Disease Control and Prevention says the exact opposite.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/basics/atag...
That site doesn't say what you want it to.

It confirms most gay women and men are not infected with any disease.

Yet we don't use disease to deny fundamental rights. Even if it said what you want it to, it still provide no excuse for denial of equal rights.

At best, it demonstrates the importance of marriage equality and promoting monogamous commitment.

It also demonstrates the failure of abstinence only programs, and the importance of making sure everyone understands the risks of unprotected sex, high risk behavior, and multiple partners.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#50 Sep 15, 2013
"In the courtís final analysis, the governmentís only basis for supporting DOMA comes down to an apparent belief that the moral views of the majority may properly be enacted as the law of the land in regard to state-sanctioned same-sex marriage in disregard of the personal status and living conditions of a significant segment of our pluralistic society. Such a view is not consistent with the evidence or the law as embodied in the Fifth Amendment with respect to the thoughts expressed in this decision. The court has no doubt about its conclusion:... DOMA deprives them of the equal protection of the law to which they are entitled."

http://metroweekly.com/poliglot/57794777-DOMA...

The courts realize denial of marriage equality based on gender is an unconstitutional restriction on the fundamental individual civil right of marriage.

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