Samoans Don't Deserve the Minimum Wage

Samoans Don't Deserve the Minimum Wage

There are 57 comments on the Just Barely Inside the Beltway story from Jan 16, 2007, titled Samoans Don't Deserve the Minimum Wage. In it, Just Barely Inside the Beltway reports that:

The Washington Times reports: House Republicans [Thursday] declared "something fishy" about the major tuna company in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco district being exempted from the minimum-wage ...

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pago flyer

Holland, OH

#43 Jul 14, 2011
Actually, the wage should be set by the local economy/conditions...not by by Wash. DC.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#44 Jul 14, 2011
pago flyer wrote:
Actually, the wage should be set by the local economy/conditions...not by by Wash. DC.
That is just a bunch of bull, wages should be living wages ever were they are paid. If it is part of America then I should be under the same wage laws as anywhere else in America.
soia

Pago Pago, American Samoa

#45 Jul 14, 2011
deray wrote:
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That is just a bunch of bull, wages should be living wages ever were they are paid. If it is part of America then I should be under the same wage laws as anywhere else in America.
The idea has proven to be a job-killer for American Samoa. One of the biggest jobs provider for employees have closed down while the other have drastically downsized. I guess it is better to have a job than no job.
pago flyer

Holland, OH

#46 Jul 16, 2011
In a "Socialism" type country, the wages etc., can be set by the government and unions.
Nothing is done and nobody is fired.
Hey, maybe this is good...look at France, Turkey etc.
soia

Pago Pago, American Samoa

#47 Jul 16, 2011
Our government cannot continue to solve all of our ills. The government should only pave the way for businesses to conduct business and let private citizens take the lead in innovation , creativity let the businesses compete for the markets and we will see quality and affordability in goods....HELL NO TO SOCIALISM.......
Vaai ile faalekogu ile Social Security, Post Office, Medicare and Medicaid.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#48 Jul 17, 2011
soia wrote:
Our government cannot continue to solve all of our ills. The government should only pave the way for businesses to conduct business and let private citizens take the lead in innovation , creativity let the businesses compete for the markets and we will see quality and affordability in goods....HELL NO TO SOCIALISM.......
Vaai ile faalekogu ile Social Security, Post Office, Medicare and Medicaid.
We have something worse, it is called mega corporations. It would be good if they would let small businesses in to compete. But the mega corporations don't want that they want everything cheap, product, wages so on so forth to make even more profit. It would be best for people anywhere to depend on local business, goods and services as possable. And locally created jobs don't go away as easly as those from outside a comunity. It may cost more that way but at least people would have jobs. I can remember when stuff was made to last and be repaired by local people some of it would last your lifetime and several others if taken care of. Now we get junk from somewhere else that may last a year or two and need to be replaced.
dennis stephens

Woodbridge, VA

#49 Aug 9, 2011
why can't we give a contract to the american
samoan government to make military uniforms
and military products.most of these today are
made overseas. we could have small naval water
craft made in american samoa or it's other islands.
i am not samoan, however, when i lived there, i was
impressed by the hard working men and women of
american samoa. hard working,honest,can tackle
any job given , and loyal to their friends,
community, family and the united states. if we
can have foreign countries make our goods, why not
our ameican samoa? the work force is alrighty in
place.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#50 Aug 9, 2011
dennis stephens wrote:
why can't we give a contract to the american
samoan government to make military uniforms
and military products.most of these today are
made overseas. we could have small naval water
craft made in american samoa or it's other islands.
i am not samoan, however, when i lived there, i was
impressed by the hard working men and women of
american samoa. hard working,honest,can tackle
any job given , and loyal to their friends,
community, family and the united states. if we
can have foreign countries make our goods, why not
our ameican samoa? the work force is alrighty in
place.
I have woundered about that for years, why do we send everything over to china and japan to be made when we have our own peoples who need work so badly.
pago flyer

Holland, OH

#51 Aug 10, 2011
Golfboy wrote:
Oh my, I just love watching liberals like this twist and turn. Does it hurt being a pretzel?
Samoa isn't unique. People take jobs for the wages that a company is willing to pay, and at a rate at which they are willing to work. Period.
If the Samoan's wouldn't work for $3.75/hr then either the company would have to pay them more, or the company would close/move. End of story.
It is exactly the same in America's mainland, it's just easier to see the results of Democrat economic interference on an Island. Economics 101 Mekeli.
A great observation/reply.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#52 Aug 10, 2011
How do they get past the minimum wage laws. Don't those same laws apply in American Samoa? If they don't why not?
pago flyer

Holland, OH

#53 Aug 12, 2011
deray wrote:
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I have woundered about that for years, why do we send everything over to china and japan to be made when we have our own peoples who need work so badly.
First of all you need a Reliable power/water source.
You'd have to import everything to make uniforms, or anything else.
Pago Harbor not big enough to make boats.
Tafuna Industrial (?) Park probbly not big enough to build a large factory to make uniforms etc.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#54 Aug 12, 2011
Sounds like they need to setup a local economy for themselves like produce their own food and necessities of life right on the island. Also they need to use / manage the resources at hand, the fish in the ocean around the area they are in and their own cannery for production of canned tuna or other species of fish. That way they would not have to depend so much on outside sources of income or commodities. One way of dealing with infrastructure is to make it non-centralized. The Japanese have done that kind of thing for a long time. They have small cottage industries setup all over the place; one person will handle only one part of manufacturing of a product in their home. Say like uniforms train a group of people to work out of their homes. Buy the material have it cut to the proper size by one person or family in the home, have the next family put it together an sew it with small cheaper type heavy duty machines. Have another family inspect and pack for shipment. That sort of thing break it down into small manageable parts like they do in a factory but spread it out to different persons, families and homes.
The example of uniforms may not be workable, but something that is needed in the area should be able to supply income and payback to the families who would take part. What are the needs in the area, could some kind of cooperative arrangement be setup to provide those needs and also income to the families working to provide those needs. The example of what the Japanese do with cottage industry should be able to work on almost anything with the proper investment in lower technology equipment. Power can be supplied in many different ways even by people they have as an example treadle type sewing machines, treadle type wood lathes other older technologies that do work but somewhat slower. Also there is nothing wrong with hand tools, in some of the lands of the world many do not have electricity and other modern conveniences but the still are able to function pretty well. Anyway just some thoughts off the top of my head, seem like something would be better than nothing if things are actually that desperate in this area. Working together used to be an honorable thing even if no money was involved as long as the community was improved, seems like everybody is against that type of thing anymore working together toward a common goal.

“MASINA”

Since: Jul 10

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#55 Aug 14, 2011
Mike wrote:
I would rather work for $3.75 an hour than nothing at all.
I am quite sure that,on your part...it is easier said than done.
Since an idiot such as yourself does not have to be subjected to the dire state of affairs, regarding the economic wage issue in American Samoa...
IT IS WAY TOO EASY FOR YOU TO SHOOT OFF YOUR PIEHOLE!

These so called Billion dollar companies/industry can totally afford to increase the minimum wage, yet there is a refusal to give up the comfortable niche,annual salaries, and lifestyle that has been made possible by the sweat of the Samoan people.
Getting away by utilizing cheap labor...sweatshop tactics. It is the greed of these American Companies that keep the people working at these meager pay rates, These companies have been operating in the territory for more than 50 years and they still propose to keep the minimum wage to be frozen in the Twilight Zone of 25-30 years ago? Get a better excuse!

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#56 Aug 14, 2011
The international corporations are what is doing this type of thing. They are trying to get the wages down as low as a third world country.

They would rather hire a illegal imigrant in the states now than a citizen because they know they can get by with paying next to nothing and get away with it.

They are doing the samething all over the world to poor people, just taking advantage of other people because of greed.
pago flyer

Holland, OH

#57 Aug 15, 2011
deray wrote:
Sounds like they need to setup a local economy for themselves like produce their own food and necessities of life right on the island. Also they need to use / manage the resources at hand, the fish in the ocean around the area they are in and their own cannery for production of canned tuna or other species of fish. That way they would not have to depend so much on outside sources of income or commodities. One way of dealing with infrastructure is to make it non-centralized. The Japanese have done that kind of thing for a long time. They have small cottage industries setup all over the place; one person will handle only one part of manufacturing of a product in their home. Say like uniforms train a group of people to work out of their homes. Buy the material have it cut to the proper size by one person or family in the home, have the next family put it together an sew it with small cheaper type heavy duty machines. Have another family inspect and pack for shipment. That sort of thing break it down into small manageable parts like they do in a factory but spread it out to different persons, families and homes.
The example of uniforms may not be workable, but something that is needed in the area should be able to supply income and payback to the families who would take part. What are the needs in the area, could some kind of cooperative arrangement be setup to provide those needs and also income to the families working to provide those needs. The example of what the Japanese do with cottage industry should be able to work on almost anything with the proper investment in lower technology equipment. Power can be supplied in many different ways even by people they have as an example treadle type sewing machines, treadle type wood lathes other older technologies that do work but somewhat slower. Also there is nothing wrong with hand tools, in some of the lands of the world many do not have electricity and other modern conveniences but the still are able to function pretty well. Anyway just some thoughts off the top of my head, seem like something would be better than nothing if things are actually that desperate in this area. Working together used to be an honorable thing even if no money was involved as long as the community was improved, seems like everybody is against that type of thing anymore working together toward a common goal.
You don't have a clue!
Audrey

Suva, Fiji

#58 Jul 28, 2012
mekeli james ieremia wrote:
Hi uncle mekeli this is your brothers son. im with jamie and reid. Crazy i found this forum.
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Audrey

Suva, Fiji

#59 Jul 28, 2012
Hi how are you

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