A path to citizenship: Cost versus be...

A path to citizenship: Cost versus benefits

There are 86 comments on the enewscourier.com story from Oct 23, 2011, titled A path to citizenship: Cost versus benefits. In it, enewscourier.com reports that:

Arguably, one of the most overlooked questions in the rancorous debate has been, “Is there a path to citizenship that would benefit the state, business owners who rely on illegal immigrant labor and legal residents?”

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Juan

Pearland, TX

#1 Oct 23, 2011
It would be in the best interest of US to give citizenhip to all undocumented workers. Doing so would help reduce the tax debt.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#2 Oct 23, 2011
Juan wrote:
It would be in the best interest of US to give citizenhip to all undocumented workers. Doing so would help reduce the tax debt.
Most immigrants and illegal aliens are on welfare. If illegal aliens were to become citizens they would flood the welfare, unemployment, social security, medicare & medicaid rolls. We would be taking on a whole new welfare class plus this would not solve the illegal aliens problems. The next new wave of illegals will be on their way.

Giving away us citizenship with no enforcement means nothing.

"# In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.

# Immigrant households’ use of welfare tends to be much higher than natives for food assistance programs and Medicaid. Their use of cash and housing programs tends to be similar to native households.

# A large share of the welfare used by immigrant households with children is received on behalf of their U.S.-born children, who are American citizens. But even households with children comprised entirely of immigrants (no U.S.-born children) still had a welfare use rate of 56 percent in 2009."

http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
Juan

Pearland, TX

#4 Oct 23, 2011
You do not understand......undocumented aliens cannot get welfare, etc. etc. etc.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#5 Oct 23, 2011
Juan wrote:
You do not understand......undocumented aliens cannot get welfare, etc. etc. etc.
you do not understand, theyy use fake id's and everything else INCLUDING THEIR OWN CHILDREN to get benefits. Not surprising considering they are all criminals.

Since: Jun 10

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Oct 23, 2011
Juan wrote:
You do not understand......undocumented aliens cannot get welfare, etc. etc. etc.
Georgia administering welfare benefits without eligibility verification (Nov 18, 2009)
http://youtu.be/B4qHQEgK89w

Rising cost of illegal aliens in Los Angeles County (Apr 10, 2009)
http://youtu.be/Z9jt8TEcLzI

McDonalds (¿Quiere papas fritas con eso?)( Aug 3, 2010)
http://youtu.be/VDTX-Ltg-cE

The Myth of Illegal Immigration and Food Prices
By Fulano deTal | Posted August 18, 2011, 10:40 p.m.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/fulano_...

Since: Jun 10

Phoenix, AZ

#7 Oct 23, 2011
Illegal Aliens Collecting WIC Vouchers in Georgia (Jun 12, 2011) http://youtu.be/z92plqoP3GE

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#8 Oct 24, 2011
Juan wrote:
You do not understand......undocumented aliens cannot get welfare, etc. etc. etc.
in ca they can. so many have said this i had to check.the only problem an illegal aliens will have is with the medi-cal medicaid.

even wic has been changed around to cater to illegals.

best thing for our country would be no help of any kind for illegal aliens. the only path way deserved by breaking laws is the one they came here on.

the only good thing the bad economy has done is shine a light on just how bad of a problem we have with illegal aliens. illegal aliens do not help this country.
no more takos for you

Salt Lake City, UT

#9 Oct 24, 2011
Let's also abolish mex restaurants, remove all Quesadillas from any menus, erase 5 de mayo from calendars, make the word "CHIMI-CHANGA" a curse word. detete all the "hasta-la-vista-baby- " quotations from Arnold. AND NO more mano=a-mano.
forbid all Cesar Chavez propaganda. make "ethnic cleansing" the weekly theme. have ALL LEGALS of brown skin wear a tatoo of their birth certificate on the forhead. and lastly, pay back to all those illegals that have died defending this country, but how much is an illegal's life worth..?.75, 2.00, 20.00 ? WHAT things are coming to? neverming if my ancestors came here from another country. as long I is white, it won't matter.
Dances with Wolves

Baltimore, MD

#10 Oct 24, 2011
no more takos for you wrote:
Let's also abolish mex restaurants, remove all Quesadillas from any menus, erase 5 de mayo from calendars, make the word "CHIMI-CHANGA" a curse word. detete all the "hasta-la-vista-baby- " quotations from Arnold. AND NO more mano=a-mano.
forbid all Cesar Chavez propaganda. make "ethnic cleansing" the weekly theme. have ALL LEGALS of brown skin wear a tatoo of their birth certificate on the forhead. and lastly, pay back to all those illegals that have died defending this country, but how much is an illegal's life worth..?.75, 2.00, 20.00 ? WHAT things are coming to? neverming if my ancestors came here from another country. as long I is white, it won't matter.
Don't be silly - drama queen (or king).

This is not about American citizens of Hispanic descent or any other ethnic origin. This is about illegal invaders. Stop pretending like you didn't know that.
AntiMelting

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Oct 24, 2011
Juan wrote:
You do not understand......undocumented aliens cannot get welfare, etc. etc. etc.
BS. The Twin Cities have designated themselves, going against federal law mind you, as sanctuary cities. Illegals can get WHATEVER they want, and do.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#13 Oct 24, 2011
Juan wrote:
You do not understand......undocumented aliens cannot get welfare, etc. etc. etc.
"The Treasury Department reports that illegal immigrants filing tax returns using the Individual Tax Identifica­tion Number are receiving more than $1.5 billion each year from the federal government through the Child Tax Credit and the Additional Child Tax Credit. Many illegal immigrants are regularly accessing welfare benefits in the United States in different ways.1 They may do so through those state and local government­s that do not verify citizenshi­p or that accept false proof of citizenshi­p. In many cases, they access welfare benefits through their citizen children born in the United States. Additional­ly, and this is the focus of this report, there are ways illegal immigrants can obtain a form of federal welfare that is available to income tax filers. Since a significan­t percentage of illegal immigrants have low incomes, work “off the books,” or work with false names and Social Security numbers, it is likely that many report little or no income when applying for federal, state, or local benefits."

http://www­.cis.org/c­hild-tax -c­redits”

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#14 Oct 24, 2011
"The Internal Revenue Service allowed undocumented workers to collect $4.2 billion in refundable tax credits last year, a new audit says, almost quadruple the sum five years ago.

Although undocumented workers are not eligible for federal benefits, the report released Thursday by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration concludes that federal law is ambiguous on whether these workers qualify for a tax break based on earned income called the additional child tax credit.

Taxpayers can claim this credit to reduce what they owe in taxes, often getting refunds from the government. The vagueness of federal law may have contributed to the $4.2 billion in credits, the report said.

The IRS said it lacks the authority to disallow the claims.

Wage earners who do not have Social Security numbers and are not authorized to work in the United States can use what the IRS calls individual taxpayer identification numbers. Often these result in fraudulent claims on tax returns, auditors found."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/illeg...

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#15 Oct 24, 2011
21 Sept 2001

"Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX) has just introduced legislation (The Refundable Child Tax Credit Eligibility Verification Reform Act (HR 1956))which would block illegal aliens from receiving any further child tax credits from the Internal Revenue Service.

Rep. Johnson told reporters:“Last year illegal immigrants bilked $4.2 billion from U.S. taxpayers due to a loophole with the refundable child tax credit…That’s just wrong.”

“It’s time to close this loophole. With the dire need to cut government spending, I hope this simple fix gets a serious look as a way to stamp out waste, fraud and abuse,” Johnson said/

http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in...

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#16 Oct 24, 2011
no more takos for you wrote:
Let's also abolish mex restaurants, remove all Quesadillas from any menus, erase 5 de mayo from calendars, make the word "CHIMI-CHANGA" a curse word. detete all the "hasta-la-vista-baby- " quotations from Arnold. AND NO more mano=a-mano.
forbid all Cesar Chavez propaganda. make "ethnic cleansing" the weekly theme. have ALL LEGALS of brown skin wear a tatoo of their birth certificate on the forhead. and lastly, pay back to all those illegals that have died defending this country, but how much is an illegal's life worth..?.75, 2.00, 20.00 ? WHAT things are coming to? neverming if my ancestors came here from another country. as long I is white, it won't matter.
Illegal aliens just don't want to follow the laws. It's not that hard. Show up at port with your passport & visa in hand and you have no problems. Sneak into the country and look over your shoulder the rest of your life, you don't belong here.

Race doesn't matter if you come here legal. I'am black and have been to many countries, Korea, Japan, Philippines, Germany, Denmark, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Canada & Mexico. I was never pulled out of line and denied entry because of my color.

If you are illegal we don't want you here in America.
surfthecoochie

Sterling Heights, MI

#17 Oct 24, 2011
Despite the fact that all the illegals and the traitors that support them ignore it, There is allready a "path to citizenship". It is called "LEGAL IMMIGRATION". One of its main purposes is to weed out likely immigrants that have bad character and/or no integritry and would break our laws. The exact type that continually illegaly cross's our borders and often bring a bail of hard drugs on their backs when they come. I heard they even have little mini back packs full of cocain and heroin for their kids to wear while they are illegaly crossing our borders.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#18 Oct 25, 2011
Many Americans make it out to be much worse than it actually is.

Some of the U-Tube videos went back 25 years, that's having to dig pretty deep.

Since: Jun 10

Phoenix, AZ

#19 Oct 25, 2011
Put your shoes back on, use only your fingers to count..
Maybe you need glasses you cannot see how many 00 there are.

Georgia administering welfare benefits without eligibility verification ***(Nov 18, 2009)***
http://youtu.be/B4qHQEgK89w

Rising cost of illegal aliens in Los Angeles County ***(Apr 10, 2009)***
http://youtu.be/Z9jt8TEcLzI

McDonalds (¿Quiere papas fritas con eso?)***( Aug 3, 2010)***
http://youtu.be/VDTX-Ltg-cE

The Myth of Illegal Immigration and Food Prices
By Fulano deTal | Posted ***August 18, 2011***, 10:40 p.m.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/fulano_ ...

Illegal Aliens Collecting WIC Vouchers in Georgia ***(Jun 12, 2011)*** http://youtu.be/z92plqoP3GE

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#20 Oct 25, 2011
all this has to be do to forcing the nAu. hospitals are closing crime is high all do to illegal aliens and the fools at the head of the country do nothing.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#21 Oct 26, 2011
It cost too much to become a citizen. Many undocumented workers do not want to be a citizen, many just want to work and be left alone.
5 Oclock Somewhere

Saint Louis, MO

#22 Oct 26, 2011
Juan wrote:
It cost too much to become a citizen. Many undocumented workers do not want to be a citizen, many just want to work and be left alone.
It's not 5:00 in Texas you FRAUD!

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