Democrat Joins Calls for Health Care Repeal

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At least one of the 34 House Democrats who voted against President Obama's comprehensive health care overhaul is now calling for its repeal, joining a chorus of Republicans intent on making the new set of laws an election issue.

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#23
Mar 30, 2010
 
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car. Where is your outrage for that?
What you all should do, since none of you understand what you are talking about, is go take an economics course and see that this mandate is not what you think it is. But you should be outraged that the corporations are going to set the price, not you, not the fact that you will have to have health care.
You and your delusions are so far from reality it is sad. You don't know the first thing about Marxism or the constitution so do us all a favor and go back to school and learn something.
No they don't... the STATES do. However... if I do not want to drive I do not have to have a license or a car or insurance... MY CHOICE (CHOICE, key word)... Right now with this HC law even if I chose NOT to seek any type of medical service I will be mandated by the Federal Government to purchase something I DO NOT WANT! or else be fined up to 2.5% of my salary.
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Mar 30, 2010
 
And I thought there was no bipartisanship in Washington today.

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<quoted text>The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car. Where is your outrage for that?
What you all should do, since none of you understand what you are talking about, is go take an economics course and see that this mandate is not what you think it is. But you should be outraged that the corporations are going to set the price, not you, not the fact that you will have to have health care.
You and your delusions are so far from reality it is sad. You don't know the first thing about Marxism or the constitution so do us all a favor and go back to school and learn something.
"The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car. Where is your outrage for that?"

LOL!! But does the government make you own a car and drive? Of all the asinine libeal defense of their socialist plans, that's one of the best.

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Well now you just sound like a hater. If they make crap then don't buy it. The only one that will suffer for them making a bad product is them when they go under because nobody is buying their garbage. Like Toyota, they will crumble in sales over these deaths they caused, no government takeover needed. I'm all for oversight and protection, just not takeover. Set standards and verify these standards are met, when they are not the company is fined. The post office is run well? Not really.
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The military is not run by pencil pushers but generals who report to the President, they make calls on the strategy. And they are also screwed up. Bad conditions in veterans hospitals ring a bell? That general was fired. My little brother was in Iraq and he said it was terrible, the soldiers have nothing there. Family has to send care packages to the troops because the stinkin govt gives them nothing, not even some deodorant.
One supposes that the company which turns out trash will die, but it seems to take quite a long time. I am amused by the contention that the army is not run by pencil pushers. I hear otherwise.

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One supposes that the company which turns out trash will die, but it seems to take quite a long time. I am amused by the contention that the army is not run by pencil pushers. I hear otherwise.
Mostly computers nowadays.

Only 10% of our armed forces serve in actual combat. That 10% couldn't do it without the support of the other 90%. You weren't in the military, were you?

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<quoted text>.. That 10% couldn't do it without the support of the other 90%....
So the 90% are the pencil pushers.

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One supposes that the company which turns out trash will die, but it seems to take quite a long time. I am amused by the contention that the army is not run by pencil pushers. I hear otherwise.
O.K, let's get rid of all big business types because they are greedy, will the poor people or companies operating in the red be hiring then? There are pencils pushers leading our troops overseas? I didn't think there were.

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O.K, let's get rid of all big business types because they are greedy, will the poor people or companies operating in the red be hiring then? There are pencils pushers leading our troops overseas? I didn't think there were.
You seem to have some difficulty in drawing rational conclusions. If a company makes trashy cars let them be replaced by a company that makes better ones, as we see has happened. I remember living in Detroit when the Toyota dealership first appeared on Woodward Ave. Few people realized it was the death knell for GM. We laughed. You want to conclude that GM is the great and benevolent employer of the poor who would be lost without them.

As for all the pencil pushers in the pentagon, I have yet to meet anyone in any military branch, active or retired, that holds them in high regard. Perhaps you do and that is fine with me.

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You seem to have some difficulty in drawing rational conclusions. If a company makes trashy cars let them be replaced by a company that makes better ones, as we see has happened. I remember living in Detroit when the Toyota dealership first appeared on Woodward Ave. Few people realized it was the death knell for GM. We laughed. You want to conclude that GM is the great and benevolent employer of the poor who would be lost without them.
As for all the pencil pushers in the pentagon, I have yet to meet anyone in any military branch, active or retired, that holds them in high regard. Perhaps you do and that is fine with me.
Let them be replaced by the government or let them be replaced by consumers, the American people?

I didn't say GM employs the poor, my point was that the evil corporations and big business employ Americans. If they are gone where will these jobs come from?

Who said I hold pencil pushers in hight regard, you missed all of my points...

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Let them be replaced by the government or let them be replaced by consumers, the American people?
I didn't say GM employs the poor, my point was that the evil corporations and big business employ Americans. If they are gone where will these jobs come from?
Who said I hold pencil pushers in hight regard, you missed all of my points...
You are one of those who finds it necessary to deliberately misrepresent what you are responding to in order to make some irrelevant response. You keep going on about "evil corporations," for example and to portray them as the only source of gainful employment, raising up repeatedly the straw man of having them go away, which was not the thrust of any of my remarks.

Since you are concerned about this you should have a look at Michael Moor's classic film, "Roger and Me." This is about General Motors closing up a profitable factory in Michigan to make more profits in Mexico. Perhaps there you will find what worries you.

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You are one of those who finds it necessary to deliberately misrepresent what you are responding to in order to make some irrelevant response. You keep going on about "evil corporations," for example and to portray them as the only source of gainful employment, raising up repeatedly the straw man of having them go away, which was not the thrust of any of my remarks.
Since you are concerned about this you should have a look at Michael Moor's classic film, "Roger and Me." This is about General Motors closing up a profitable factory in Michigan to make more profits in Mexico. Perhaps there you will find what worries you.
If I come across a Michael Moore dvd I will use it as a frisbee....So GM is to blame for moving to Mexico to make more profits? I guess the question is what restrictions are placed on them that they have to move? Corporations are not evil, they provide jobs.

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If I come across a Michael Moore dvd I will use it as a frisbee....So GM is to blame for moving to Mexico to make more profits? I guess the question is what restrictions are placed on them that they have to move? Corporations are not evil, they provide jobs.
They didn't have to move. They chose to pay Mexicans fifty cents an hour instead of paying the wages they had agreed to. You take the position, apparently, that a corporate entity has no responsibility to the people of the community that allows it to operate. The share holder's dollar is always more important than the worker's life. One may also trace the ultimate downfall of the GM to this point, when they told the United States to go to hell.

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So the 90% are the pencil pushers.
If you took a bath in clue water, with clue soap, used clue cologne and put on clue clothes, you still wouldn't have a clue.
Why don't you enlighten the rest of us what you did in the military? Green Beret Seal Recon I suppose?

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Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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If you took a bath in clue water, with clue soap, used clue cologne and put on clue clothes, you still wouldn't have a clue.
Why don't you enlighten the rest of us what you did in the military? Green Beret Seal Recon I suppose?
Look at it this way, snoops, since I'm going to tell you it's none of your business, but public record if you knew where to look, you can have endless pointless fun trying to get me to tell you. Buzz off.
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#37
Mar 31, 2010
 
Why not repeal the healthcare scam and every other thing O-bribe-a does......The first thing O-bribe-a did was to start on Bush's policies......

presidents come and go.......the major problem in America is career politicians in congress.

vote out ALL members of congress with over 2 terms.

term limits is the only way to clean up congress and to keep presidents on the will of the people instead of personal agendas.

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laojim wrote:
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They didn't have to move. They chose to pay Mexicans fifty cents an hour instead of paying the wages they had agreed to. You take the position, apparently, that a corporate entity has no responsibility to the people of the community that allows it to operate. The share holder's dollar is always more important than the worker's life. One may also trace the ultimate downfall of the GM to this point, when they told the United States to go to hell.
Isn't it against the law to pay an employee under minimum wage in this country? They should be fined and the laws enforced, what does responsibility to the community have to do with it? So the corporation is evil for being corrupt but our politicians get off with doing it everyday? All I care about is getting a car when I deal with GM, I'm not concerned how they do business or what laws they break....That is the job of state/federal government to enforce laws.

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