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Democrat Joins Calls for Health Care Repeal

There are 36 comments on the CBS News story from Mar 30, 2010, titled Democrat Joins Calls for Health Care Repeal. In it, CBS News reports that:

At least one of the 34 House Democrats who voted against President Obama's comprehensive health care overhaul is now calling for its repeal, joining a chorus of Republicans intent on making the new set of laws an election issue.

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“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

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#1 Mar 30, 2010
Let's not be concerned with the cost and merits of ObamaCare, both are disgusting and only serve as a distraction from what matters...the media knows that and laugh at those falling for it.
Let's be concerned over it because it is Unconstitutional and not worth the paper it's written on.
Nowhere in The United States Constitution does it allow government to mandate the purchase of insurance or for a bully congress to stack the deck...nowhere. In fact The United States Constitution prevents such government intrusion and action. The Red Coats did not win and never surrender your rights to any man.
It's time to air-out the White House, America is fed up seeing treasonous self-serving dirty diaper democRats getting away with murder.
In November donít allow some college educated pompous punk experimenting with a dorm room Marxist ideology to ever fool you again.

Since: May 09

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#3 Mar 30, 2010
JohnInLa wrote:
Let's not be concerned with the cost and merits of ObamaCare, both are disgusting and only serve as a distraction from what matters...the media knows that and laugh at those falling for it.
Let's be concerned over it because it is Unconstitutional and not worth the paper it's written on.
Nowhere in The United States Constitution does it allow government to mandate the purchase of insurance or for a bully congress to stack the deck...nowhere. In fact The United States Constitution prevents such government intrusion and action. The Red Coats did not win and never surrender your rights to any man.
It's time to air-out the White House, America is fed up seeing treasonous self-serving dirty diaper democRats getting away with murder.
In November donít allow some college educated pompous punk experimenting with a dorm room Marxist ideology to ever fool you again.
Did you vote for David Duke?
Richard

Erie, PA

#4 Mar 30, 2010
Repeal is very likely.
Common Sense

Lakeland, FL

#5 Mar 30, 2010
JohnInLa wrote:
Let's not be concerned with the cost and merits of ObamaCare, both are disgusting and only serve as a distraction from what matters...the media knows that and laugh at those falling for it.
Let's be concerned over it because it is Unconstitutional and not worth the paper it's written on.
Nowhere in The United States Constitution does it allow government to mandate the purchase of insurance or for a bully congress to stack the deck...nowhere. In fact The United States Constitution prevents such government intrusion and action. The Red Coats did not win and never surrender your rights to any man.
It's time to air-out the White House, America is fed up seeing treasonous self-serving dirty diaper democRats getting away with murder.
In November donít allow some college educated pompous punk experimenting with a dorm room Marxist ideology to ever fool you again.
The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car. Where is your outrage for that?
What you all should do, since none of you understand what you are talking about, is go take an economics course and see that this mandate is not what you think it is. But you should be outraged that the corporations are going to set the price, not you, not the fact that you will have to have health care.
You and your delusions are so far from reality it is sad. You don't know the first thing about Marxism or the constitution so do us all a favor and go back to school and learn something.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#7 Mar 30, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car.
Where is your outrage for that?
HEY DUMBSH*T - You have to Own a Car in order for it to Apply. That means there's a USAGE involved IDIOT!

MAGGOT OBAMA has Broken the Constitution by attempting to require PUNISHMENT AND IMPRISONMENT FOR DOING NOTHING!!!!! No Use involved. Just breathing!

ARREST That Piece of Sh*T Obama Now & IMPEACH his Sorry Arse!
Common Sense wrote:
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What you all should do, since none of you understand what you are talking about, is go take an economics course and see that this mandate is not what you think it is. But you should be outraged that the corporations are going to set the price, not you, not the fact that you will have to have health care.
You and your delusions are so far from reality it is sad. You don't know the first thing about Marxism or the constitution so do us all a favor and go back to school and learn something.
You are the Dumbest sack of dung I've seen today. You posses NO Common Sense. I suggest trying to educate yourself dummy!
Richard

Erie, PA

#8 Mar 30, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car. Where is your outrage for that?
What you all should do, since none of you understand what you are talking about, is go take an economics course and see that this mandate is not what you think it is. But you should be outraged that the corporations are going to set the price, not you, not the fact that you will have to have health care.
You and your delusions are so far from reality it is sad. You don't know the first thing about Marxism or the constitution so do us all a favor and go back to school and learn something.
I think what he means is that the Constitution specifies certian duties for the federal government and stipulates the anything no specified lies under the authority of the states. That would include both driver's licenses and health care.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#9 Mar 30, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>The government mandates you have a driver's license, registration and current insurance at all times if you own a car. Where is your outrage for that?
What you all should do, since none of you understand what you are talking about, is go take an economics course and see that this mandate is not what you think it is. But you should be outraged that the corporations are going to set the price, not you, not the fact that you will have to have health care.
You and your delusions are so far from reality it is sad. You don't know the first thing about Marxism or the constitution so do us all a favor and go back to school and learn something.
Where's the difference? If you are truly defiant against the government you can opt not to have a car, hence no insurance. How do you opt out of Obamacare? Kill yourself? I would rather the "corporations" set the price and government provide oversight and regulation on the healthcare system, because to me, the government could mess up a cup of coffee.....
Common Sense

Lakeland, FL

#10 Mar 30, 2010
The laughing liberal wrote:
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HEY DUMBSH*T - You have to Own a Car in order for it to Apply. That means there's a USAGE involved IDIOT!
MAGGOT OBAMA has Broken the Constitution by attempting to require PUNISHMENT AND IMPRISONMENT FOR DOING NOTHING!!!!! No Use involved. Just breathing!
ARREST That Piece of Sh*T Obama Now & IMPEACH his Sorry Arse!
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You are the Dumbest sack of dung I've seen today. You posses NO Common Sense. I suggest trying to educate yourself dummy!
WOW, I used a GOP talking point and you denounced it. There may be hope for you yet. As far as your "constitutional" knowledge, you have none. You are crying about what you have heard, not what is actually in the bill, you are fearful because you have no knowledge of economics or finance and you are talking about impeachment because you don't like the idea.
On all fronts you show your lack of education.
But if you want to call me dummy three times in one sentence I might want to direct you to two important facts.

Health care involves USAGE

Individual mandates are a REPUBLICAN IDEA. This was proposed in 1994 as a Republican alternate to the Clinton proposal. This was also a Republican idea of Mitt Romney who actually instilled this exact idea in Massachusetts.

But because a Republican didn't push it through when they got the chance it is wrong?

If you had a clue about reality you wouldn't buy into so much fear. Fear of course is a product of being uneducated.
Common Sense

Lakeland, FL

#11 Mar 30, 2010
Richard wrote:
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I think what he means is that the Constitution specifies certian duties for the federal government and stipulates the anything no specified lies under the authority of the states. That would include both driver's licenses and health care.
Yeah Yeah I have heard this very broad argument for a month now and nobody can come up with anything more specific. Even Republicans are saying repeal and these lawsuits are a waste of time. It is all grandstanding because they are poor losers.

Since: May 09

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#12 Mar 30, 2010
Windy City Player wrote:
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Where's the difference? If you are truly defiant against the government you can opt not to have a car, hence no insurance. How do you opt out of Obamacare? Kill yourself? I would rather the "corporations" set the price and government provide oversight and regulation on the healthcare system, because to me, the government could mess up a cup of coffee.....
Your faith in the corporation is amusing. All the tobacco was sold and promoted by corporations. Food that is tasty but bad for you made by corporations. The coffee that doesn't pay the grower a living income is processed by corporations. The cars that fall apart as soon as you drive them off the lot are made by corporations. The telephone company was a corporation. The poisonous patent medicines were all made by private companies. The poisons in the air come from corporations.

And so on. Many of the great advances are made by government regulation of corporations which suppressed tobacco, got medicines off the market, demanded that cars be safer, and so on and so on.

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#13 Mar 30, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>...Individual mandates are a REPUBLICAN IDEA. This was proposed in 1994 as a Republican alternate to the Clinton proposal."
This is a standard left-wing talking point.

If Clinton's healtchare bill would have passed, it would have called for mandatory jail time for those that didn't purchase health care, all courtesy of Hiliary Clinton.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#14 Mar 30, 2010
laojim wrote:
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Your faith in the corporation is amusing. All the tobacco was sold and promoted by corporations. Food that is tasty but bad for you made by corporations. The coffee that doesn't pay the grower a living income is processed by corporations. The cars that fall apart as soon as you drive them off the lot are made by corporations. The telephone company was a corporation. The poisonous patent medicines were all made by private companies. The poisons in the air come from corporations.
And so on. Many of the great advances are made by government regulation of corporations which suppressed tobacco, got medicines off the market, demanded that cars be safer, and so on and so on.
Yes, let's blame the corporations for turning a profit and making a product that people buy. Make no mention that the government is supposed to have some oversight on these things and ensure the safety to the public, remember? The FDA certifies the food safe doesn't it? The government makes it illegal to smoke weed but slaps a warning label on cigarettes that kill 100,000 people a year! I have no problem with oversight and safety assurance by the government to protect the public but government run companies? Please, these politicians cannot even accurately do their own tax returns let alone run a business with no corruption.
Common Sense

Lakeland, FL

#15 Mar 30, 2010
dragoon70056 wrote:
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This is a standard left-wing talking point.
If Clinton's healtchare bill would have passed, it would have called for mandatory jail time for those that didn't purchase health care, all courtesy of Hiliary Clinton.
No actually this is a fact that Newt Gingrich and his band had this in their bill and was supported by Bob Dole. It was also what your front runner for 2012 president did in Massachusetts...only different now that he has been exposed for doing something he calls out Obama for.

These aren't talking points, these are facts.
Common Sense

Lakeland, FL

#16 Mar 30, 2010
Windy City Player wrote:
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Where's the difference? If you are truly defiant against the government you can opt not to have a car, hence no insurance. How do you opt out of Obamacare? Kill yourself? I would rather the "corporations" set the price and government provide oversight and regulation on the healthcare system, because to me, the government could mess up a cup of coffee.....
And the private HMO industry is murdering people for profit. You don't allow the corporations in any other industry to set the price so why are you content with these corporations jacking the price at will because they know you need their service?
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Mar 30, 2010
ha ha Is this thread for constitutional scholars...or brain dead republicunts? Can any of you show me where the constitution allows the Federal govt. to pass a law regarding marijuana? There are probably hundreds of other examples but lets start there.

Since: May 09

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#18 Mar 30, 2010
Windy City Player wrote:
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Yes, let's blame the corporations for turning a profit and making a product that people buy. Make no mention that the government is supposed to have some oversight on these things and ensure the safety to the public, remember? The FDA certifies the food safe doesn't it? The government makes it illegal to smoke weed but slaps a warning label on cigarettes that kill 100,000 people a year! I have no problem with oversight and safety assurance by the government to protect the public but government run companies? Please, these politicians cannot even accurately do their own tax returns let alone run a business with no corruption.
You should read more carefully. I didn't criticize them for making profits, but for making crap and profiting from that. We depend on the government for oversight and protection only because experience teaches that few corporations will give a damn who they kill or maim unless they are forced to care.

As for running things, nobody misses a social security check, the mail always gets delivered, the fire department always comes when called, the Marine Corps will invade anyone they are ordered to invade, and so on. Plenty of things are run well by many governments. All that "government can't do anything right" stuff is right wing propaganda which has been used by Republicans for years when they want to take over government and make it bigger.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#19 Mar 30, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>And the private HMO industry is murdering people for profit. You don't allow the corporations in any other industry to set the price so why are you content with these corporations jacking the price at will because they know you need their service?
I have an HMO, blue cross blue shield, and I like it, and my family likes it, where do you get these murder figures from? My price has gone up a little for co-payments over the years but that's it. My gas bill went up more than healthcare for me, are we going to have the government run this also? GE is already in bed with the democrats so I guess the government can take that over also. Unless you are paying cash at the hospital, current insurance pays most of the bill.

Since: May 09

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#20 Mar 30, 2010
Windy City Player wrote:
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I have an HMO, blue cross blue shield, and I like it, and my family likes it, where do you get these murder figures from? My price has gone up a little for co-payments over the years but that's it. My gas bill went up more than healthcare for me, are we going to have the government run this also? GE is already in bed with the democrats so I guess the government can take that over also. Unless you are paying cash at the hospital, current insurance pays most of the bill.
I had Country Companies of Illinois and they refused to to pay anything apparently of the assumption that the problem was life, which was a preexisting condition and therefore not covered. Nice that you have a good policy. Lots of people do not.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#21 Mar 30, 2010
laojim wrote:
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You should read more carefully. I didn't criticize them for making profits, but for making crap and profiting from that. We depend on the government for oversight and protection only because experience teaches that few corporations will give a damn who they kill or maim unless they are forced to care.
As for running things, nobody misses a social security check, the mail always gets delivered, the fire department always comes when called, the Marine Corps will invade anyone they are ordered to invade, and so on. Plenty of things are run well by many governments. All that "government can't do anything right" stuff is right wing propaganda which has been used by Republicans for years when they want to take over government and make it bigger.
Well now you just sound like a hater. If they make crap then don't buy it. The only one that will suffer for them making a bad product is them when they go under because nobody is buying their garbage. Like Toyota, they will crumble in sales over these deaths they caused, no government takeover needed. I'm all for oversight and protection, just not takeover. Set standards and verify these standards are met, when they are not the company is fined. The post office is run well? Not really.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investin...

The military is not run by pencil pushers but generals who report to the President, they make calls on the strategy. And they are also screwed up. Bad conditions in veterans hospitals ring a bell? That general was fired. My little brother was in Iraq and he said it was terrible, the soldiers have nothing there. Family has to send care packages to the troops because the stinkin govt gives them nothing, not even some deodorant.

“The enemy is in our camp.”

Since: Mar 08

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#22 Mar 30, 2010
It's too bad members of congress don't read these posts. They might learn a little about what us common folk think.

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