US border security: Huge costs with m...

US border security: Huge costs with mixed results

There are 66 comments on the El Paso Times story from Jun 25, 2011, titled US border security: Huge costs with mixed results. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

Perched 20 feet above a South Texas cabbage field in a telephone booth-sized capsule, a National Guardsman passes a moonlit Sunday night with a gun strapped to his hip, peering through heat detector lenses into an adjacent orange grove.

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El Paso, TX

#63 Jun 26, 2011
Sorry meant to say, "We would truly become Juarez".

Buckeye, AZ

#64 Jun 26, 2011
Obama just gave 1.7 Billion tax payer dollars to Mexico to fight their drug war. I would have liked my taxes to have gone towards finishing the fence along the border to keep Illegals out. Why in the h-ll are we giving a corrupt Mexican government our tax payer dollars to Mexico. Something is definitely wrong with this picture.

The cost of harboring illegal immigrants in the United States is a staggering $113 billion a year an average of $1,117 for every “native-headed” household in America. I say we can afford to ship them all back and spend the rest to wall our borders.

Buckeye, AZ

#65 Jun 26, 2011
Yeh, right Obama. We only want the "Best & the Brightest" in our country. You better come up with a better theme than this one.

How Obama and Calif state government can justify this article is beyond a sane persons comprehension.

CA Spends $1 Billion a Year to Jail Undocumented Immigrants
According to data from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation from December 2010, just under 17,000 inmates in the state are on hold for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and in addition, there are just under 4,000 prisoners listed as potential ICE holds.

At a cost of almost $45,000 a year to house an inmate, that’s a cost of nearly $1 billion to house the undocumented immigrants.

The immigrants detained at the time of the data primarily hail from Mexico 15,985 total l (14,057 undocumented), followed by El Salvador, with 1,231 inmates with )1,118 undocumented.

Between Oct. 1, 2010 and April 30, ICE returned to their countries of origin more than 215,900 aliens, including 109,700 aliens with criminal convictions. Of those, 585 were convicted of homicide, 3,177 were convicted sex offenders, and 24,593 were convicted of serious drug offenses.

Billings, MT

#66 Jun 26, 2011
LEAP member wrote:
For Federal Law Enforcement Agents:
All of us in law enforcement and the criminal justice system are motivated by the goal of protecting public safety. We risk our lives to keep communities safe and secure, bringing to justice those who violate criminal laws. The primary question we should ask ourselves when evaluating any policy is whether it works to keep society safe. Secondary factors include questions of economic efficiency, fairness to groups with historically less money or power, and whether we are allowing people to reach their full potential after rehabilitation.
The war on drugs unequivocally fails every one of these tests. We have bravely fought the war on drugs for more than 40 years – arresting, prosecuting, and imprisoning at ever-increasing levels. We have spent well over a trillion dollars and made more than 39 million arrests of nonviolent drug users.
Ask yourself this simple question: Has it worked? As most of us can answer from experience: No. The war on drugs has never worked. Today, drugs are cheaper, more potent, and easier to get than they were in 1970 when the war on drugs began. On federal surveys, teenagers consistently report that it’s easier to buy marijuana than alcohol, which is legal and age-regulated. And beyond its failure, the war on drugs has had unintended but devastatingly violent consequences. As with alcohol prohibition, drugs are under the control of bloodthirsty cartels fighting over untaxed profits and killing police and innocent civilians in their crossfire.
We are committed to keeping our country safe. As long as extreme black market profits are at stake, gangs will continue to endanger and kill not just rivals but police, civilians, and anyone else who gets in their way. Just as we put alcohol traffickers out of business and ended their violence by ending alcohol prohibition, we can do the same with today’s prohibited drugs. Putting the drug gangs and cartels out of business, while spending less time endlessly chasing drug users, will free up our time and resources to protect our country from other threats. The alarming rise of violence in Mexico and Central America must be stopped, and as those of us who have worked the border know, ending drug prohibition is the only way to do it. We need to stop empowering criminals and protect our citizens instead.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) represents police, prosecutors, judges, prison wardens, federal agents and others who want to legalize and regulate drugs after fighting on the front lines of the "war on drugs" and learning firsthand that prohibition only serves to worsen addiction and violence.
First, misrepresenting yourself as a law officer is a felony. You do not speak for legitimate law officers nor have you ever been one. You're a druggie trying to get his agenda across by trying to make people believe you speak for law enforcement. Your views at best are full of sh/it. We've never really fought a war on drugs, I've been in real wars, I know the difference. If this were a real war, drug dealers would be gunned down and eliminated by every citizen on the street and they would be thanked for helping out. Instead creeps like you whine and complain and mistreat our justice system to protect you from the real justice you deserve. If we had instituted the correct policy of executing drug dealers upon conviction and tieng social programs to drug testing this so called "war" would have been done 30 years ago and rat's like you would keep a lot lower profile. Now stop insulting honest law enforcement by pretending to speak on their behalf or you will be reported.
Obama bin Biden

El Paso, TX

#67 Jun 27, 2011
Nope wrote:
As a strong advocate of the war,now I believe a slow draw down is needed and more monies can be allocated to the U.S. Border where a real big threat lingers in the shadows. Mexican cartels and their money, power, and might is no joke. I could never imagine a border with no enforcement. CHAOS!!!!!
We have PLENTY of troops right here in El Paso, TX Fort Bliss and Biggs Field.

El Paso, TX

#68 Jun 27, 2011
Maybe we should be charging Mexico the cost of running our borders, since Mexico really doesn't care about their citizens, then maybe if it it the Government in the pocket book, then maybe they would do something about it in their own country,

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