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Obama visits El Paso on immigration issue

There are 329 comments on the The Deming Headlight story from May 8, 2011, titled Obama visits El Paso on immigration issue. In it, The Deming Headlight reports that:

The nation of immigrants has a problem older than Ellis Island. Who should be allowed in America and who should not? President Obama will travel to El Paso on Tuesday to renew discussions about a national immigration policy -- a conversation that almost always brings about confrontation.

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Border Native-American

Florissant, CO

#1 May 9, 2011
We aren't a nation of immigrants. We are a nation of Americans who expect their laws to be followed. Immigration is easy, enforce the law, just like all the other nations of the world.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#2 May 9, 2011
Does that mean that we no longer need the Border Patrol or Immigration
laws??

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis

Obama: "We Are All Connected" Whether You Crossed Rio Grande Or Landed on
Ellis Island

"No matter who you are. No matter where you can came from. No matter what
you look like. No matter whether your ancestors landed here on Ellis Island
or came here on slave ships or came across the Rio Grande, we are all
connected. We will rise and fall together. That's the vision of America I've
got, that's the idea of the heart of America," President Obama said at a
fundraiser in San Francisco.

"That's the idea of the heart of our campaign," Obama added.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/0...
WhoKnew

Deming, NM

#3 May 9, 2011
If the US isn't a nation of immigrants, then how did all you white folk get here? Or were you bleached?
Pearl

Albuquerque, NM

#4 May 9, 2011
Back on the campaign trail, or did he ever get off it?
Proudnativist

Carmel, IN

#5 May 9, 2011
The obamanation is now in full kiss hispanic ass for votes mode.
Old Gringo

Albuquerque, NM

#6 May 9, 2011
WhoKnew wrote:
If the US isn't a nation of immigrants, then how did all you white folk get here? Or were you bleached?
TFF ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
Pablo

Lancaster, PA

#7 May 9, 2011
WhoKnew wrote:
If the US isn't a nation of immigrants, then how did all you white folk get here? Or were you bleached?
They came over illegally, killed the border patrol (Natives) and forced everyone to adopt their culture and follow their laws.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#8 May 9, 2011
1) "...law enabling illegal immigrants.." is an oxymoron, there Milan.

2). "Ellis Island" was mentioned as a poke at whites. Yet Ellis Island was the LEGAL and PROPER processing point that white immigrants complied with. So, back at 'ya with the shame thing!

...and Latino advocates wonder why they earn our scorn daily.
Pablo

Lancaster, PA

#9 May 9, 2011
Bellcrank wrote:
1) "...law enabling illegal immigrants.." is an oxymoron, there Milan.
2). "Ellis Island" was mentioned as a poke at whites. Yet Ellis Island was the LEGAL and PROPER processing point that white immigrants complied with. So, back at 'ya with the shame thing!
...and Latino advocates wonder why they earn our scorn daily.
True, but immigration laws back then were simple. State your name, place of origin, get a shot for TB, and Done! you are a US citizen.

The only people denied citizenship where those with diseases.

So hispanic immigrants merely want the same. Why should they have to go through a long, expensive, confusing process when no one else ever had to?

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#10 May 9, 2011
Ya mean besides the fact that EVERY OTHER COUNTRY on this planet requires it? Or...
Common Cents

Orlando, FL

#11 May 9, 2011
Border Native-American wrote:
We aren't a nation of immigrants. We are a nation of Americans who expect their laws to be followed. Immigration is easy, enforce the law, just like all the other nations of the world.
New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg, whose city depends on continuing immigration to supply it with low-wage cab drivers and hotel housekeepers has a "Big Idea" for repopulating Detroit:
http://redwriteblue.blog.com/2011/05/07/mayor...
Pablo

Lancaster, PA

#12 May 9, 2011
Bellcrank wrote:
Ya mean besides the fact that EVERY OTHER COUNTRY on this planet requires it? Or...
Since when does America care what other countries do? I for one don't care about Iran's immigration policy (or Canada, North Korea, Japan, Italy, etc).
lets be fair

Phoenix, AZ

#13 May 9, 2011
Pablo wrote:
<quoted text>
True, but immigration laws back then were simple. State your name, place of origin, get a shot for TB, and Done! you are a US citizen.
The only people denied citizenship where those with diseases.
So hispanic immigrants merely want the same. Why should they have to go through a long, expensive, confusing process when no one else ever had to?
The only fair way to remedy this problem, so there is no way to claim racial predjudice is to use the same immigration laws that the country of origin uses. Now that would be fair ...do you agree PABLO, or are you stuck on a one way street?
How about

Albuquerque, NM

#14 May 9, 2011
Mexico's
Pablo wrote:
<quoted text>
Since when does America care what other countries do? I for one don't care about Iran's immigration policy (or Canada, North Korea, Japan, Italy, etc).

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#15 May 9, 2011
Cricket 23 wrote:
Does that mean that we no longer need the Border Patrol or Immigration
laws??
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
Obama: "We Are All Connected" Whether You Crossed Rio Grande Or Landed on
Ellis Island
"No matter who you are. No matter where you can came from. No matter what
you look like. No matter whether your ancestors landed here on Ellis Island
or came here on slave ships or came across the Rio Grande, we are all
connected. We will rise and fall together. That's the vision of America I've
got, that's the idea of the heart of America," President Obama said at a
fundraiser in San Francisco.
"That's the idea of the heart of our campaign," Obama added.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/0...
After Running on Immigration, Republicans Cut Border Security Funding

After nearly two full years of inciting fear of illegal aliens in many 2010 races, now that the Republicans are in power, they have decided to cut funding for border security.

Via the New York Times:

Preparing for the fight next week in Congress over federal spending legislation, Democratic leaders in the Senate said they will not support a bill with $60 billion in budget cuts that passed the Republican-led House on Saturday because it reduces funding for border security.

In a letter sent on Monday to House appropriations leaders, Senator Charles Schumer of New York and two other Democrats said the House bill would shrink the Border Patrol by 870 agents and cut $272 million in funds for surveillance systems to monitor the border with Mexico. They said those cuts would cancel gains from a bill adopted last August, with virtually unanimous bipartisan support, that increased border funding by $600 million, adding 1,000 new agents to the Border Patrol.

"This magnitude of reduction is simply dangerous," wrote Mr. Schumer, who is chairman of the Senate judiciary subcommittee on immigration. Also signing were Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico and Jon Tester of Montana.

The GOP's public excuse is that they see no reason to give the president money on border security since it would just be wasted.

"Even with all the money in the world, the administration would not succeed in securing the border because they are not serious about it," [Texas Rep. Lamar] Smith said.

But is that the real reason, or just yet another excuse from a party determined to obstruct every bit of the Obama agenda, even the parts that actually compliment their own? Especially since, for the Republicans, who spent much of the 2010 election season drumming up paranoia and invoking xenophobic backlash over the idea that "illegals" were sneaking into the country, taking jobs and beheading people, there's a strong possibility the party will bring that tactic back for 2012.

https://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/af...

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#16 May 9, 2011
Democrats say GOP cuts jeopardize border security
Arguments flip issue for parties

After watching Republicans use immigration to attack their priorities for the past two years, Democrats are turning the table, saying congressional Republicans' spending-cuts bill would slice money from border fencing and could scuttle much of President Obama's Border Patrol surge.

Led by Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, they charged this week that the Republicans' 2011 spending bill that the House passed early Saturday will cut the Border Patrol force by more than 800 agents and take $272 million of fencing and other infrastructure at a time when border violence is on the rise.

"Simply put, cuts of this magnitude will be devastating to our security and our economy," Mr. Schumer and two colleagues wrote in a letter to House leaders. "They will render us unable to secure our borders and, even worse, will reverse the progress Congress has made in reducing the flow of illegal immigration, guns, and drugs along our border."

Republicans said Mr. Schumer was misreading the numbers and that they include enough spending to pay for the full 21,370 agents while setting an absolute low of 20,500 agents.

"The assertion that our bill is weak on border security is simply wrong," said Rep. Robert B. Aderholt, Alabama Republican and chairman of the spending subcommittee that oversees border funding. "If anyone looks at the funding priorities, they will see that we put money into securing the border."

more @ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/...

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#18 May 9, 2011
Are Republicans for or against border security (soo confused)?
Republicans were slamming President Obama for so-called "not enforcing our immigration laws", but President Obama had already deported almost 4000,000 illegals, he pulled Millions to fund border security, placed more agents at the border then ever before and sent thousands of troops too.

But now Republicans want to cut border funding and scale back on agents with their budget plan. So do they want secure borders? Or not?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/0...
House bill threatens border security

WASHINGTON - The stopgap spending bill passed by House Republicans cuts funding for 250 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and threatens future funding for nearly 900 Border Patrol agents.

"(These cuts) will render us unable to secure our borders and ... reverse the progress Congress has made in reducing the flow of illegal immigration, guns, and drugs along our border," said a letter sent this week to Republican leaders of the House Appropriations Committee from Democratic Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York, Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico and Jon Tester of Montana.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
Pablo

Lancaster, PA

#19 May 9, 2011
lets be fair wrote:
<quoted text>
The only fair way to remedy this problem, so there is no way to claim racial predjudice is to use the same immigration laws that the country of origin uses. Now that would be fair ...do you agree PABLO, or are you stuck on a one way street?
It is irrelevant what other countries do. It is unfair that every other generation in this country got a pass when it came to immigration. It was only when Mexicans starting to come here in large numbers that America created strict immigration laws.
Pablo

Lancaster, PA

#20 May 9, 2011
How about wrote:
Mexico's
<quoted text>
Mexico is in bad shape right now b/c of the drug war. Many peopel are coming here to escape the bad conditions so their families can have a better life. Sort of like when the English came here to escape the situation in England; or when the Irish came here to escape the Ireland.

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#21 May 9, 2011
lets be fair wrote:
<quoted text>
The only fair way to remedy this problem, so there is no way to claim racial predjudice is to use the same immigration laws that the country of origin uses. Now that would be fair ...do you agree PABLO, or are you stuck on a one way street?
We can have any kind of immigration policy on the books influenced from any Nation on the planet but as long as Congress improperly funds the Border Patrol & ICE, those laws will go unenforced and we'll continue to see mediocre gains in the rectification of this issue.

Also, the Executive branch needs to spend that money more properly. I know America has to worry about the world blowing us all up but lets not forget that Mexico is not a very friendly neighbor. We need better border security at the northern & southern border.

I'm not very happy with the stalemate of both parties regarding immigration reform however as Independent as I am, the empty words of the Republicans demanding better border security before any immigration reform takes place is a good start if they only walked the talk.

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