A Perversion Of Justice

A Perversion Of Justice

There are 23 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Sep 22, 2008, titled A Perversion Of Justice. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Constitutional privilege may have protected Mark Foley from prosecution under state and federal laws, but he'll never escape the court of public opinion.

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Uriah Heep

New Haven, CT

#1 Sep 22, 2008
Note to the Courant: Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La) has used the same constitutional privilege in connection with the FBI's use of a search warrant to seize documents from his office. You may recall Rep. Jefferson - he is the Congressman who hid $90,000.00 in bribery money in the freezer at his home. Unlike the sleazy Mr. Foley, however, the crooked Mr. Jefferson didn't resign his seat in Congress. On the contrary, I believe he is seeking re-election. I don't recall the Courant writing an outraged editorial about Jefferson's use (abuse?) of the constitutional privilege to "stonewall" and "subvert" the bribery case against him. But perhaps I am mistaken, and the Courant did write an editorial but I simply missed it?
Brent in Lowell

Lowell, MA

#2 Sep 22, 2008
I am very surprised that a judge would not be selective in application of the Congressional privilege. What privilege applies to messages to pages? If a member of Congress is giving privileged information to a page, isn't that a dereliction of duty? Can't the Courant assert some public interest in the e-mail messages of a member of Congress to nonpriviliged personnel, and go after the messages to at least soundly deprive this manifest abuser of age and power and privilege of the last shred of a veil to hide behind? Your editorial was spot on -- notwithstanding Uriah Heep's attempted obfuscation of the fact that Foley's dark deeds stand on their own and aren't made any brighter by the misdeeds of another weasel in high office.
Brent in Lowell

Lowell, MA

#3 Sep 22, 2008
There's even more to the story; it sounds like everybody dropped the ball on this. The Republican leadership failed the pages by not protecting them; but boy, they sure asserted Congressional privilege. The FBI didn't notify the Justice Dept of the investigation soon enough. The FBI and Justice didn't inform the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement of any illegal activity on Foley's part, sufficient to generate a probable cause determination sufficient to support a search warrant. The Florida Dept of Law Enforcement after a two-year investigation spent -- how much?-- a massive $37,000. That's an investigation? What paralegal makes 17 grand a year doing an "investigation"? Sounds like nobody's trying very hard to get the facts, and the people lose.
Manny

Wallingford, CT

#4 Sep 23, 2008
Now if this was about Dodd's crooked mortgage deal, Rangles forgetting to pay his taxes and Jefferson accepting bribe money I would be totally stunned. The Courant will attack a Republican but Democrats can do anything dishonest and the Courant will support them or just ignore the news. They should change the name the The Connecticut Democrat. This paper and most of the editors and writers are a joke
Traveler

Brookfield, CT

#5 Sep 23, 2008
Hey what about the money in the refrigerator in some sentors or congressmans office wasn't this same thing used to help that crook out,OH I FORGOT THAT WAS RACIAL PROFILING STUPID ME.
Bubba

United States

#6 Sep 23, 2008
William Jefferson, caught taking bribes, Chris Countrywide Dodd, caught taking bribes, Joe Courtney and Chris Murphy voted to put Jefferson on the Homeland Security Committee even though he is a criminal, then there is JOhnson and Baines on Obamas staff, looted banks for high salaries after coooking books, and you Nobama himself, still with ignored and unanswered Chicago style mob and political dealings...Why doesn't the Courant look into these issues? Barney Frank, Dodd, and the others who are at the heart of the financial crisis, and you're worried about some queer congressman who has resigned and has taken himself out of the picture...Hmmm, the Hartford Courant. Relevent and responsible? Nope, just good for wrapping fish guts!!!
tru american

Newington, CT

#7 Sep 23, 2008
i see all you queer gop toothles ibred rednecks supprort your GOP butt buddy Finger's Foley escape from justice.

you inbreds are a disgrace the the U.S.

gop
rip
hellwig

Milwaukee, WI

#8 Sep 23, 2008
The Courant continues to disgrace itself. First it's Bill Curry's hatchet job on Sarah Palin and now this. At least Palin is relevant to CT residents as she is running for VP, but why should CT voters care about Mark Foley from Florida? Was he even in the news before the Courant wrote this editorial? There is plenty of CT-related political issues to touch on - Dodd and Countrywide, Shays and Murphy in competitive races, Lieberman, etc., yet we get a piece on an ex Florida congressman? I can't wait for the Larry Craig expose. Can't wait until the Courant goes under......
Tom

Portland, CT

#9 Sep 23, 2008
tru american wrote:
i see all you queer gop toothles ibred rednecks supprort your GOP butt buddy Finger's Foley escape from justice.
you inbreds are a disgrace the the U.S.
gop
rip
I think you need to return to your trailer and have another shot of Thunderbird...your typing seems a bit off.
Sheepdog

Winsted, CT

#10 Sep 23, 2008
Sounds like the perfect choice for the next democratic presidential candidate.
Jerry

Waukegan, IL

#11 Sep 23, 2008
Bubba wrote:
William Jefferson, caught taking bribes, Chris Countrywide Dodd, caught taking bribes, Joe Courtney and Chris Murphy voted to put Jefferson on the Homeland Security Committee even though he is a criminal, then there is JOhnson and Baines on Obamas staff, looted banks for high salaries after coooking books, and you Nobama himself, still with ignored and unanswered Chicago style mob and political dealings...Why doesn't the Courant look into these issues? Barney Frank, Dodd, and the others who are at the heart of the financial crisis, and you're worried about some queer congressman who has resigned and has taken himself out of the picture...Hmmm, the Hartford Courant. Relevent and responsible? Nope, just good for wrapping fish guts!!!
Not to mention the gloating remarks by Dodd for Robert Byrd a couple of years ago. Sen. Robert Byrd admitted KKK racist (in his younger years of course) longest serving DNC Senator.

Similiar remarks by Trent Lott for Strom Thurmond cost Sen. Lott his majority leader position. He also went on an "apology" tour, no such thing from Dodd, ignored by the Courant and the media in general.
Publius

New Haven, CT

#12 Sep 23, 2008
tru american wrote:
i see all you queer gop toothles ibred rednecks supprort your GOP butt buddy Finger's Foley escape from justice.
you inbreds are a disgrace the the U.S.
gop
rip
If you had taken the time to actually read the postings, you would have quickly seen that no one condones or excuses the abominable conduct of Mr. Foley. Far from it – the guy was/is a sleazy predator. What people are slamming is the hypocrisy of the Hartford Courant in getting on its high horse and condemning the use of a congressional privilege by a former Republican Congressman in a criminal investigation, while at the same time completely ignoring the use of the same privilege by a SEATING Democratic Congressman in a criminal matter. This selective outrage by the Courant has been repeated time-after-time in its coverage of such matters, and simply undercuts the Courant's credibility and moral authority when it voices an opinion. I wholeheartedly agree with the substance of the Courant's criticism of how the congressional privilege has been abused by certain legislators, but if the Courant want to write an editorial it should do so in a fair and even-handed manner.
Bob

Cheshire, CT

#13 Sep 23, 2008
Uriah Heep wrote:
Note to the Courant: Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La) has used the same constitutional privilege in connection with the FBI's use of a search warrant to seize documents from his office. You may recall Rep. Jefferson - he is the Congressman who hid $90,000.00 in bribery money in the freezer at his home. Unlike the sleazy Mr. Foley, however, the crooked Mr. Jefferson didn't resign his seat in Congress. On the contrary, I believe he is seeking re-election. I don't recall the Courant writing an outraged editorial about Jefferson's use (abuse?) of the constitutional privilege to "stonewall" and "subvert" the bribery case against him. But perhaps I am mistaken, and the Courant did write an editorial but I simply missed it?
Very Fair Point... well said.
Alfred E Newman Esq

New Milford, CT

#14 Sep 23, 2008
You hacks at the Courant have to be kidding ,right? Today of all days you write an editorial about Mark Foley, who the Dems used as a poster-child to take over the Congress in 06,,only to find out no criminal wrong doing took place. Barney Frank's boyfriend ran a bordello out of Frank's condo in D.C. and not a word. But today, when Dudd is holding hearings, when he should have been the 1st witness, in hankcuffs, this is what the Courant writes about? Chris Dudd and his band of Dem theives are holding hearings blamimg everybody else but themselves.for the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meltdown. Have you no shame? Dudd, Barney Frank,Nancy Pelosi, and others ran these institutions as wholly owned subsideraries of the DNC.They made these banks give out loans to those who could not aford them and yet the Courant of all days, talks about Mark Foley.Talk about a perversion. It starts within your own newsroom. Noa a slingle one of you have a shred of professionalism. Sickening!!! That's alright, the rest of the media will finally catch up to Dudd & Co., while you all cover for him.
WmnsLib

Wethersfield, CT

#15 Sep 23, 2008
While we are on the subject members of Congress from other states who have escaped prosecution, pehaps we should talk about Ted Kennedy...he killed a woman and he is considered the "heart of the Democrat party."
With someone like that as a role model it's no wonder President Clinton killed Vince Foster.
Justice Pro

Sarasota, FL

#16 Sep 23, 2008
Thank you for your coverage of this issue, most of the media in FL failed to not the total story, for your reders who would like to read thhe report, here is a link they can cut and paste.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politic...
He was a good student

Chicago, IL

#17 Sep 23, 2008
He learned his tricks watching the rapist and predator Bill Clinton get away with murder.
Tom

Portland, CT

#18 Sep 23, 2008
Justice Pro wrote:
Thank you for your coverage of this issue, most of the media in FL failed to not the total story, for your reders who would like to read thhe report, here is a link they can cut and paste.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politic...
The Courant picked this story up so they can say they do political reporting while skirting several ugly Christopher Dodd issues. If the Courant was really interested in investigative reporting, they would have done all the sleuthing that other papers have done to paint Dodd as he really is, even without the papers he PROMISED to release.
Uriah Heep

New Haven, CT

#19 Sep 23, 2008
Justice Pro wrote:
Thank you for your coverage of this issue, most of the media in FL failed to not the total story, for your reders who would like to read thhe report, here is a link they can cut and paste.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politic...
Thanks for the cite. Interesting reading.
Gubba Gubba

Hartford, CT

#20 Sep 23, 2008
Oh please. He's entitled to the presumption of innocence, and if there's a loophole for congressional emails, get on your congressfolks' cases and see if they're up for changing the laws that protect them (they won't).

From all I've heard, there weren't really any victims here (if there were, why haven't they come forward?). Some of the teens may have even enjoyed humoring Foley. At any rate, his "stonewalling" isn't one tenth as bad as Bill or Hllary's have been in the past. I'd bet the courant stood by them thru thick and thin.

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