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It's the last closet on the right: Why are Republicans so often caught in gay sex scandals?

There are 17 comments on the www2.macleans.ca story from Mar 23, 2010, titled It's the last closet on the right: Why are Republicans so often caught in gay sex scandals?. In it, www2.macleans.ca reports that:

For his entire career, California’s Bible belt state Sen. Roy Ashburn was best known for sound bites like this one, dating to 2005. At a rally he organized to drum up support for a ban on same-sex marriage, the powerful Republican from Bakersfield stood beside the founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, Lou Sheldon, proclaiming heterosexual marriage “fundamental to civilization,” as Sheldon made vile claims about the lives of gay men and women—in all, “one of the most disturbing hours of my life,” said one reporter present. Ashburn, said to be “right of Rush Limbaugh,” has opposed every gay rights initiative that’s crossed his Senate desk, including measures aiming at fairness in jobs and housing, and one to protect gay youth.

Fast-forward to March 3 of this year, when a drunk-driving arrest near the Sacramento gay club Faces led him to announce, days later, to Kern County radio listeners: “I am gay.” Even north of the border you could practically hear the collective slap! as Republican hands met foreheads.

The gay Republican outed by scandal is, by now, a familiar event on the American political calendar...

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“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#1 Mar 23, 2010
It's really SO simple. Those who scream the loudest are the ones with the most to fear, right? Why would they fear GLBT folks??? Because they know they're one of us and they hate themselves for it.

Of course, it doesn't hurt that the country is full of knuckle-dragging idiots that shut their brains off before they enter the voting booth....
pauline 2

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Mar 23, 2010
By yelling "that person is gay" and pointing they believe it mans no one will look at them.

Any time a person shouts look at : what ever , look to the pointer as it is he or she that wishes you to look elsewhere.

Surprising that those who support the GLBT community are the straight ones. or out. Liberal gays fear nothing, not even themselves.

Since: Jan 10

Defiance, OH

#4 Mar 23, 2010
Money motivates them. I would guess if the truth be known, none of them care one way or the other. It's just business.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#6 Mar 23, 2010
There are plenty of stories of Republicans being outed. I'd say in light of that fact that the "last closet" is famous black men being outed. People still deny Michael Jackson was gay, despite obvious evidence to the contrary. And what about Tyler Perry, probably the richest and most successful black man in Hollywood ? THAT'S the "last closet".

Most blacks are so homophobic that some even claim that if a black man is gay, he's "acting white".
Sheldon

Arlington, VA

#7 Mar 24, 2010
I think you missed the point of the article, Frank. I think Maclean's was asking, "what's the appeal of conservatism to gays? particularly when conservatives make it abundantly clear, gays aren't welcome? and even if a gay were conservative, what pushes them to run for political office, which has the side effect of forcing them to remain in the closet and take positions against their own personal interest?"

I've known several gay conservatives, black, white, latino, middle eastern, and Asian, some closeted, some not. None of them, however, has been either in public office or aspired to it (that I know of), so I can't ask them these questions.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#8 Mar 24, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
There are plenty of stories of Republicans being outed. I'd say in light of that fact that the "last closet" is famous black men being outed. People still deny Michael Jackson was gay, despite obvious evidence to the contrary. And what about Tyler Perry, probably the richest and most successful black man in Hollywood ? THAT'S the "last closet".
Most blacks are so homophobic that some even claim that if a black man is gay, he's "acting white".
Most of the evidence I've heard about Michael Jackson seems to point towards asexuality.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#9 Mar 24, 2010
Sheldon wrote:
I think you missed the point of the article, Frank. I think Maclean's was asking, "what's the appeal of conservatism to gays? particularly when conservatives make it abundantly clear, gays aren't welcome? and even if a gay were conservative, what pushes them to run for political office, which has the side effect of forcing them to remain in the closet and take positions against their own personal interest?"
I've known several gay conservatives, black, white, latino, middle eastern, and Asian, some closeted, some not. None of them, however, has been either in public office or aspired to it (that I know of), so I can't ask them these questions.
One must also look at the definition of conservativism in different places.
pauline 2

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Mar 24, 2010
JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of the evidence I've heard about Michael Jackson seems to point towards asexuality.
A lost child, with no reality.
rider

Marquette, MI

#13 Jun 7, 2010
why are Log Cabin Republicans so silent
rider

Marquette, MI

#14 Jun 7, 2010
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Boardwatch

UK

#15 Jun 7, 2010
Personally I think those that get "found out" are Gays that are liars (no surprise there) who infiltrate the republican party. They are ashamed of their birth defect so they try and hide it by hiding in the place where they would be least suspected. A conservative party. In the case of Roy Assburn, do you think he would have been elected by his district if he would have stated the truth? "Hey, I am Gay and I like to drive around drunk after visiting Gay Bars". I don't think you will find this is typical Republican behavior more than it would be a "Gay" behavior. I guarantee one thing. He won't be elected as a Republican again. The Democrats will most likely welcome him with open arms as it fits their lifestyle more than it does a Republican.
Boardwatch

UK

#16 Jun 7, 2010
Same concept the Catholic church is having. Where was the best and least expected place a child molester could hide? A Place with built in respect. If this was a Democratic Senator this would not have been a story. Just goes to show you that Lying Gays can do a lot of damage to a society.
Boardwatch

UK

#17 Jun 7, 2010
"The gay Republican outed by scandal is, by now, a familiar event on the American political calendar..."

Can't tell the author of this story is biased as well by that comment.

As I said the Gay Democrat is not even a story as it is commonplace... It would have been expected for the Gay Democrat to be hanging out at Gay bars... Society doesn't expect much from a Democratic representative so this would have been expected. Roy does have one thing he can look forward to now though, He can now continue his behavior unimpeded as a democrat with nobody thinking any less of him... Just too bad he couldn't uphold the Republican expectations. Of course not everyone can be a conservative republican, but pretty much anyone can meet the standards of a Gay Democrat.
LOL

Bradenton, FL

#18 Jun 7, 2010
If this were true it would indicate that being a corrupt politician is a deterent to being gay....

except for a few tickle parties here or there. or people named Barney.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#19 Jun 8, 2010
Boardwatch wrote:
Same concept the Catholic church is having. Where was the best and least expected place a child molester could hide? A Place with built in respect. If this was a Democratic Senator this would not have been a story. Just goes to show you that Lying Gays can do a lot of damage to a society.
It would be less of a story, since Democrats are often less vocal about harming their fellow Americans. Not always--in eevry party there are bad apples.

That's what this story is about. This Senator was very vocal about harming gay Americans, simply to hide that fact that he was one.

You can't say that's not reprehensible. And yes, it seems to be more prevelant in Republicans, since they are the party that most opposes basic civil rights for minorities--at least at this time in history.
Hmmm

UK

#20 Jun 8, 2010
LOL wrote:
If this were true it would indicate that being a corrupt politician is a deterrent to being gay....
except for a few tickle parties here or there. or people named Barney.
LOL No, it sounds like they go hand in hand
Hmmm

UK

#21 Jun 8, 2010
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
It would be less of a story, since Democrats are often less vocal about harming their fellow Americans. Not always--in eevry party there are bad apples.
That's what this story is about. This Senator was very vocal about harming gay Americans, simply to hide that fact that he was one.
You can't say that's not reprehensible. And yes, it seems to be more prevelant in Republicans, since they are the party that most opposes basic civil rights for minorities--at least at this time in history.
I dunno, All those new taxes out there are sure not providing fellow Americans any help in current fiscal situation.

Maybe the Democratic policy of harm is just more widespread.

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