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Guam to hire 20,000 skilled Filipino workers

There are 91 comments on the Manila Bulletin story from Apr 9, 2008, titled Guam to hire 20,000 skilled Filipino workers. In it, Manila Bulletin reports that:

Guam will hire more than 20,000 skilled Filipino workers to facilitate the construction of an expanded US military base on that island, the mayor of the US territory's capital said the other night.

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Joe Telintino

Seattle, WA

#22 Jul 31, 2008
JosephMendiola wrote:
Nothing against Filipinos but there are many locals and LT residents here - Chamorros, Filipinos, Mestizos, Statesiders, etc, even Micronesians - that could use the work. WHAT IS PURPOSE OF SETTING UP A GCC "TRADES ACADEMY" + LOCAL DOL APPRENTICESHIPS - read, USING SCARCE GOVGUAM + PRIVATE-INDUS $$$- IFF THE JOBS ARE GOING TO GO TO ANYBODY ELSE NOT A LOCAL TA GRADUATE NOR EVEN A LOCAL LEGAL RESIDENT??? I can't morally nor economically agree wid the logic.
The Islanders Take that advantages, towards contracts. Thou you say the jobs are slim, there are all taken by Islanders that have walfare, while islanders have the previllages towards the others, that you say it's unfair. Why ?
B-man

Mililani, HI

#23 Aug 18, 2008
Seriously people, "local skilled laborers" is a myth. Whoever mentioned that the local men are lazy is right. All they want to do is be the boss whether they are smart enough to deserve to be or not. Guam cannot even maintain what it has with its local skilled talent in GovGuam, let alone try to compete for federal contracts or provide the workers for one. Look at Tiyan since the feds gave it back to GovGuam. Everything is a shambles because we don't know how to maintain anything. ANYTHING.

Certain idealistic pro-Chamorro mouthpiece is always aggravated whenever talk of bringing in off-island laborers, be they Filipino, Korean, Chinese or whatever. And yet, there is NOT ONE STRUCTURE on our so-called native Chamorro land that was erected by Chamorros and Chamorros alone... okay exclude the amateur Lanchon Antigu structures and penny anty things like that, I mean REAL structures.

And that is only speaking about blue collar work. Let's not even get into high-tech trades.
Paeng

United States

#24 Sep 24, 2008
This is pure economics. Labor from the Philippines is dirt cheap. To hire locals or Statesiders would cost 10 to 20 times more.
Thalia

Guam

#25 Oct 16, 2008
CalmSeas wrote:
20,000 "Skilled" Filipinos swould be a hard stretch to find. I wonder what the turn over rate will be once these "Guest workers" start getting into trouble, as filipinos are bound to do...or better yet, when they start getting outted for not knowing what they are supposed to be doing?
Why haven't we seen a "Hire Islanders (not just Chamorros) First?" Then again, if there are not enough "Skilled locals," then why aren't mainland AMERICANS being recruited for these jobs?

They are obviously going for the cheap labor, which will mean cheap construction.
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So you're saying that filipinos are bound to get into troubles and don't exactly know what they're doing?

And you're also saying that just cause the rates of filipino construction workers are cheaper than the mainlanders, they're construction is cheap as well? You better be thankful that we're willing to get a cheaper pay for a way BETTER job..(I can personally attest to that!)

So ok, you're being RACIST and IGNORANT and probably ENVIOUS... Just cause filipinos rise faster than other ethnics, doesn't mean you have to hate US. If you really have evidence of everything that you're saying you can e-mail me ([email protected]) and I will try to reason out with you. Besides, just like on any other nation, there will always be the GOOD ones and the BAD ones. So if you encounter bad filipinos, well too bad. But keep in mind that you don't have the right to generalize people among a nation. I've been here on Guam for almost 10 years, I'm filipina, educated, been awarded and complimented several times for my good performance and never got into any kind of trouble. So yes, I'm pretty offended with how you accused all the "Filipinos" of being bound to get into trouble !
And wait a minute, you're from where? Subic? so are you one of US? Maybe you're just trying to get attention.. yeah, you got mine because of your sarcastic, obnoxious and RACIST comment.

I believe in Karma though, I know one way or another, you'll realize how much you're making a fool out of your self. And here's to you >>>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Thalia

Guam

#26 Oct 16, 2008
lois sprague wrote:
<quoted text>I should think that the local residents should be considered before bring in these so called Filipino Workers. This smells...
EXCUSE ME? did you just say "this so called filipino workers?" wow.. I"m seriously smelling RACISM here! Just cause WE got choosen to do the job, look who'd being JEALOUS and critical now....Are you trying to say that Filipinos are less that known among the society huh MS. WISE ASS ... calling us this "so called filipino workders" I've been reading your comments and guess what, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S STARTING TO SMELL...! It seems like you're really hating OUR race for some reason! Do you have a problem with us huh MS. WISE ASS trying to look like you're Ms. Know it all? You mess with my ethnic and you will hear it from me. You're basically subtly insulting the whole Filipino race by your sharp trying to sound sensible comments. But then again, as I've said.. I believe in Karma - and you as well will soon realize how much you're making a fool out of your self! here's to you to >>>>>> HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
jonnathon artero

Lancaster, SC

#27 Oct 17, 2008
i agree, GOVGUAM SHOULD RECONSIDER hiring 20,000 "skilled" philipinos. there are many local islanders that can handle the job. if GOVGUAM is going to "waste" money on cheap labor, then why don't they use that money to get people from the mainland to do a better job.
Juniah

Mililani, HI

#28 Oct 18, 2008
Thalia wrote:
<quoted text>
EXCUSE ME? did you just say "this so called filipino workers?" wow.. I"m seriously smelling RACISM here! Just cause WE got choosen to do the job, look who'd being JEALOUS and critical now....Are you trying to say that Filipinos are less that known among the society huh MS. WISE ASS ... calling us this "so called filipino workders" I've been reading your comments and guess what, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S STARTING TO SMELL...! It seems like you're really hating OUR race for some reason! Do you have a problem with us huh MS. WISE ASS trying to look like you're Ms. Know it all? You mess with my ethnic and you will hear it from me. You're basically subtly insulting the whole Filipino race by your sharp trying to sound sensible comments. But then again, as I've said.. I believe in Karma - and you as well will soon realize how much you're making a fool out of your self! here's to you to >>>>>> HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Relax Thalia, this is something that's been here long before you came 10 years ago. I am Filipino by heritage, born and raised here on Guam. I had to grow up and figure out what the racism was about. I did not grow up in a "Filipino community" like Tamuning/Dededo to be shielded from it and around other Filipinos. I grew up in amongst Chamorros and had to figure out why "I was different".

Don't take it personally. First it was the Filipinos, then the Palauans, now predominantly the Chuukese. Any influx of ay other race unsettles Chamorros. The Chuukese I'll discount as that large a "contributing group" to Guam's society for now which remains to be seen. But Chamorros feel threatened of their very own existence when Filipinos, Koreans, Chinese, etc., come to Guam and "take their jobs". But Chamorros won't and don't do those jobs. They don't have a work ethic that will stand up to skilled labor blue collar jobs.

Look around at all the on-island jobs being done that require tedious, grueling, and backbreaking work. None are done by Chamorros. Not because they're not qualified or capable, but because they think they're above hard work. Because they believe they should get more money for any kind of labor they do. Because they want to be in charge. And because they're too busy tweaking on keki. Yet they cry when such labor has to be imported because they won't do it.
JosephMendiola

Hagatna, Guam

#29 Oct 20, 2008
I'd just read wid apprehension on GUAM K-57 RADIO website that both the US Navy's and Air Force bases here on GUam will be merged in early 2009, ostensibly in a USDOD move to improve common base operations or activities for the Guam Area. NAVY GUAM = NAVMAR will be in be in broad charge of the new merger.

HMMMMM, although I can agree wid the rationale to cut costs, and to improve coordinate and integrate common base operations. I am more concerned about LT American milplans to stay or leave GUAM + WESTPAC REGION.

I view the Guam K-57News of the Bases Merger
wid a lot of apprehension, as per its mostly begative subjective or ambiguous implications for Guam's long-term political relationship vv the United States.

*2008 - 2016 Post-Dubya POTUS Period > OWG-NWO + SOCIALISM-GOVTISM IN AMERIKA > in the absence of a decisve or conclusive winner in the GWOT between the US-Allies and Radical Islamism, a pragmatic way to "justify" and impose ANTI-DEMOCRATIC/CAPITALIST SOCIALIST ORDER in the US-World would be to EMPOWER PROTRACTIVE, SEEMINGLY NEVER-ENDING ECONOMIC CHAOS AND MORASS, STAGFLATION + STAGCESSION + STAGPRESSION, ETC. SOCIALISTS TEND TO ENGAGE IN PERVASIVE GOVT INFLATIONARY SPENDING WHICH IN LONG RUN MEANS MORE FEDERAL BUDGET MONETARY CUTBACKS FOR GUAM, NOT LESS, AND IN SPITE OF ANY MIL BUILDUP.

In addition, the USAF desires to dev rapid reaction-capable, fully armed Unmanned Bombers for strategic missions in permanent or near-permanent Earth orbit. The USDOD also reportedly deires to rapid reaction, SPACE ASSAULT capability for US Army-Marine units capable of striking anywhere in the world.
JosephMendiola

Hagatna, Guam

#30 Oct 20, 2008
Besides my last post, I was also just reading on WORLD FORUM, aka WORLD MILITARY FORUM [China Net], an article on how successful US development of AEROSPACE BALLISTIC MISSLE CARRIERS, to include SPACE-LAUNCHED ARMED UNMANNED VEHICLES AND PERMAMENT-ORBIT STRIKE OR RAPID REACTION AIRCRAFT AND UV's, WILL GIVE THE USA IMPORTANT NUCLEAR SURPRISE AND FIRST-STRIKE SPACE/ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT CAPABILITIES. The artic also describes how these new capabilities may result in LESS OR REDUCED US NEED TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN OVERSEAS TROOPS AND MILITARY BASES, IN FAVOR OF UNMANNED, REMOTELY CONTROLLED, SPACE-CENTRIC SUPERTECHNOLOGIES, which directly or indirectly affects Guam once again vee its long-term political military and economic, etc. utility and relationship wid the USA.

Interesting > in the above article, the pertinent US space strike scenario invol a potential US war agz hostile foreign powers is reportedly given a "YEAR 201X" timeline.
John

United States

#31 Nov 12, 2008
Wages and benefits offered are typically much lower than those offered in the mainland so this is very little chance of U.S. Citizens being attracted to these jobs. These advertisements are simply a formality so that cheap foreign labor can be obtained.
GuamLabor wrote:
U.S. workers are afforded the job opportunity first...always. Advertisements are constantly in the newspaper and job opportunities listed on the Guam Job Bank. Almost no one responds. There is a real shortage of skilled labor on Guam. That is the fact of life, both in Guam and the rest of the U.S. Many people do not want to work in the construction industry any more. Most want easier jobs in the tech or service industries or in the higher level construction occupations like electricians, Plumbers, welders. Guam just cannot find enough interested young adults who want to enter apprenticeship programs or skills training programs.
Again, the facts of life are hard to swallow, but real. Better to bring in a temporary workforce for the peak times and send them home during the lull.
off islander returning

San Jose, CA

#32 Dec 27, 2008
I smell a rat!!

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#33 Jan 24, 2009
Juniah wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax Thalia, this is something that's been here long before you came 10 years ago. I am Filipino by heritage, born and raised here on Guam. I had to grow up and figure out what the racism was about. I did not grow up in a "Filipino community" like Tamuning/Dededo to be shielded from it and around other Filipinos. I grew up in amongst Chamorros and had to figure out why "I was different".
Don't take it personally. First it was the Filipinos, then the Palauans, now predominantly the Chuukese. Any influx of ay other race unsettles Chamorros. The Chuukese I'll discount as that large a "contributing group" to Guam's society for now which remains to be seen. But Chamorros feel threatened of their very own existence when Filipinos, Koreans, Chinese, etc., come to Guam and "take their jobs". But Chamorros won't and don't do those jobs. They don't have a work ethic that will stand up to skilled labor blue collar jobs.
Look around at all the on-island jobs being done that require tedious, grueling, and backbreaking work. None are done by Chamorros. Not because they're not qualified or capable, but because they think they're above hard work. Because they believe they should get more money for any kind of labor they do. Because they want to be in charge. And because they're too busy tweaking on keki. Yet they cry when such labor has to be imported because they won't do it.
My sentiments exactly, and it seems that only those on the outside looking in, like yourself, really understand that. I'm of the same exact background and grew up seeing the same thing.

Although, I would say that there is a substantial consideration about skillsets and experience when it comes to this issue about bringing in skilled workers. If you look around at the type of smalltime construction local workers perform, such as within GovGuam, it's amateur work.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#34 Jan 24, 2009
John wrote:
Wages and benefits offered are typically much lower than those offered in the mainland so this is very little chance of U.S. Citizens being attracted to these jobs. These advertisements are simply a formality so that cheap foreign labor can be obtained.
<quoted text>
John, let's get one thing straight if you're gonna comment about anything having to do with Guam. WE ARE U.S. CITIZENS. Don't blow an otherwise constructive argument position because you're ignorant about the circumstances.

Cheaper labor is the name of the game, and in this economic slump it's all important. Imported Filipino (as well as Korean, Chinese, etc.) labor is much cheaper than even the local Guam market, let alone thinking about bringing in U.S.mainland blue collar workers.

Since: Nov 08

Manengon, Yona, Guam

#35 Mar 9, 2009
Jmanrock wrote:
<quoted text>
John, let's get one thing straight if you're gonna comment about anything having to do with Guam. WE ARE U.S. CITIZENS. Don't blow an otherwise constructive argument position because you're ignorant about the circumstances.
Yea that was a dumbass statement to say the least.
danny

Hanoi, Vietnam

#36 Mar 9, 2009
By the way, how much is the average salary of Filipino Engineer (at least 10 years experience)?

Our company (Japan based) will recruit Filipino engineers for its project in Guam.
danny

Hanoi, Vietnam

#37 Mar 9, 2009
jonnathon artero wrote:
i agree, GOVGUAM SHOULD RECONSIDER hiring 20,000 "skilled" philipinos. there are many local islanders that can handle the job. if GOVGUAM is going to "waste" money on cheap labor, then why don't they use that money to get people from the mainland to do a better job.
But you ought to consider that US is the forerunner of globalization. Businesses should be market-driver. Why thousands of US companies are now investing in China?= coz of cheap labor. Why now complain if GOVGUAM will employ labor from Philippines?

It is not to waste money to pay less expensive labor. It is a wise-business decision to pay less on equal or same services. Why pay more when you can legally pay less?
Amazed - NOT

Baku, Azerbaijan

#38 Mar 15, 2009
Most, if not all of the "local" islanders contain a little filipino in their ancestry. Chamoru or Chamorro for the most part anymore is a group of people deemed local islanders by the US Government's Organic Act by which the US Territory of Guam's laws are based. This was a water and food stop for the Spanish going between the Philippines and Mexico for hundreds of years before the US got this little problem child, most, if not ALL of the local bloodlines became mixed (not a bad thing).

So in reality bringing in foreign labor to work is not really a bad things, as most will have family there anyway.

The local work force does not want private industry "work" they grow up with the want and perceived entitlement to lucurative career with GovGuam which is more a paycheck and retirement claim than work.

Anyway, they will still need workers to perform the work, not just watch it happen.
chamoli

Tacoma, WA

#39 Mar 19, 2009
This is unbelievable! I've contracted on guam. and had 30 locals work for me. the only problem I ever faced was. showing up to work, after my employees did show, they worked very hard.all they need is guidance,respect, and good pay.some of the people I did hire had some bad habits, which in turn caused them to loose there job, and some to this day are very loyal friends. the whole thing that bugs me about hiring abraod from a nother country is just like the states and mexico. AND THE SAME FOR ASIA H-2'S THE MONEY DOESN'T CIRCULATE THE ECONOMY ON THE ISLAND. IT GOES TO THERE HOMELAND! that's why we are in so deep now.
OMGLOL

Guam

#40 Apr 7, 2009
I'm an employer and have always had a hell of a time finding skilled workers here; I'm just being honest. However, importing workers is not an option either, because it's bloody expensive and you never know what you're going to get. We need a trade/technical school.
lumbaefren

Saudi Arabia

#41 Jul 11, 2009
how can i apply

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