Feds block Marin solar plan over fund...

Feds block Marin solar plan over funding issues

There are 37 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Aug 8, 2010, titled Feds block Marin solar plan over funding issues. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Despite objections from federal regulators, the Marin Energy Authority is holding out hope that it will be able to proceed with a $20 million program to help local property owners to install solar power systems and make energy efficiency improvements.

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power

San Ramon, CA

#1 Aug 8, 2010
where there is a will there is a way.
West Marin Native

San Rafael, CA

#2 Aug 9, 2010
PACE programs, even if they succeed, won't save MEA.
Anyone up for a bet on when MEA will go under?
... the clock is ticking....
Downtown Joe

United States

#3 Aug 9, 2010
West Marin Native wrote:
PACE programs, even if they succeed, won't save MEA.
Anyone up for a bet on when MEA will go under?
... the clock is ticking....
I'll bet you go under first. How much you want to lay on the table?
Watts Vertes

Oakland, CA

#4 Aug 9, 2010
West Marin Native wrote:
PACE programs, even if they succeed, won't save MEA.
Anyone up for a bet on when MEA will go under?
... the clock is ticking....
You know, Jim Phelps, you've been ranting and raving about MEA for months, and no one seems to be buying your invective. Despite your mistaken ramblings about MEA not investing in renewables, or not providing clean power, the fact is that MEA is succeeding, despite PG&E's best efforts to stop it. Not even $45 million in ratepayer money could convince Californians, particularly not PG&E customers, that community choice programs like MEA should be stopped.

MEA doesn't need a PACE program to succeed. In fact, it can get renewable power from other sources much cheaper. Solar in Marin just doesn't make a whole lot of cents - or dollars. Nevertheless, MEA pays its customers for every kilowatt-hour of solar power that they generate, which is more than you can say for PG&E.

So, give it a rest, pal.
Marin Resident

Novato, CA

#5 Aug 9, 2010
This fiasco with the Feds better not cost Marin taxpayers one single penny. The whole thing is a dumber than dumb idea and McClakshin should take his defeat and leave office!
Citizen Taxpayer

AOL

#6 Aug 9, 2010
MEA is just another liberal sink hole. Just like everything else, these "green" energy initiatives will be overwhelmed by illegals jammed into apartments and driving large SUVs.
us citizen

San Francisco, CA

#7 Aug 9, 2010
just tell fannie and freddie that these mortgages are for people who can actually pay them off.
MCC

Mill Valley, CA

#8 Aug 9, 2010
There are private companies like SunRun and Solar city that effectivley accomplish the same end as PACE loans for residential solar. The MEA could partner with one of these companies to supply solar power to its customers.

“Watching Community Issues”

Since: Aug 09

San Rafael, CA

#9 Aug 9, 2010
MEA in financial trouble = Bush is no doubt somehow at fault and BHO will save us. Send us some green stimulus please, in the form of green cash [just printed]. We will use it to get green with: Green energy, Green building codes, love the Green tax credits, which create many, many high paying Green jobs supported by Green czars & progressive Green policies. Lots of Green energy will be saved or created.
Open wide, hold your nose and take your Greens-!!
MEA knows what is best for you.
Citizen Taxpayer

AOL

#11 Aug 9, 2010
Yes they do Miguel - they are better than us.
West Marin Native

Berkeley, CA

#12 Aug 9, 2010
Watts Vertes wrote:
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You know, Jim Phelps,[...] give it a rest, pal.
You are wrong: I am not Jim Phelps and PG&E DOES pay per kWh of solar energy produced.

Furthermore, you are wrong to say solar does not make cents [sic] in Marin. It is precisely because of this misconception of yours and all MEA advocates that I wholeheartedly disagree with McGlashan's program: MEA's house of cards creates the illusion that ratepayers are helping to solve our energy and climate crisis. They charge extra for their self-proclaimed "green" energy to line their pockets with $$ while feeding the non-climate-friendly monster called Shell Oil. Meanwhile, real, affordable, locally controlled and renewable energy sources abound.

Don't be blinded by MEA's smoke and mirrors: Residential, commercial and large-scale solar and other renewable energy solutions are HERE and NOW.

To Mr./s. Watts Vertes and others of your ilk, I urge you look beyond all of the promises that MEA offers and to ask: what is that you are actually getting and how are they actually supporting big-picture climate solutions? What are you personally doing to help?

Because I am a part of the solar and renewable industry that is building REAL solutions for today's energy problems across the country and around the world, I will not rest.

It is you, my friend, that should give it a rest.
Jack

San Rafael, CA

#13 Aug 9, 2010
Screw the feds, I'm all for solar power and liberating our country from Middle Easterners.
But, how can we take any organization seriously that headlines Dawn Weisz? She's the busybody that sued Corte Madera on behalf of Community Action Marin, or whatever they were called, and foreced them to build a huge housing project that has become...well let the article speak for itself:
http://www.marinij.com/marinnews/ci_9685538
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Jackie Fourshey still can't believe her good fortune.
"I've got a view of the Richmond Bridge," said Fourshey, 41, who recently moved with her 19-year-old daughter, Ashley, to San Clemente Place, Corte Madera's new affordable housing complex. "I know we're blessed to be here."
Fourshey and her daughter occupy one of the 79 units at San Clemente Place. The complex rents to households that earn between $12,000 and $73,000 a year, with rental prices that range from 25 to 60 percent of the area median income."///
"Three suspects were arrested after a methamphetamine bust at a Corte Madera shopping center, the sheriff's department said Wednesday.
Jacqueline Latrice Fourshey, 42, and Baltazar Ruiz-Huitzil, 27, both of Corte Madera, were arrested on drug sales...Fourshey was arrested after arriving as planned in the parking lot of Corte Madera Town Center, Marziano said. Investigators then executed a search warrant at her residence on San Clemente Drive, where they found the other two suspects."
http://www.marinij.com/marinnews/ci_14933762

Go back to Brooklyn.
Dawn Weisz

Novato, CA

#14 Aug 9, 2010
Watts Vertes wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, Jim Phelps, you've been ranting and raving about MEA for months, and no one seems to be buying your invective. Despite your mistaken ramblings about MEA not investing in renewables, or not providing clean power,

MEA doesn't need a PACE program to succeed. In fact, it can get renewable power from other sources much cheaper. Solar in Marin just doesn't make a whole lot of cents - or dollars. Nevertheless, MEA pays its customers for every kilowatt-hour of solar power that they generate, which is more than you can say for PG&E.
So, give it a rest, pal.
Mr. Vertes, take a few valium and then get back to everyone.
Jack

San Rafael, CA

#15 Aug 9, 2010
Citizen Taxpayer wrote:
MEA is just another liberal sink hole. Just like everything else, these "green" energy initiatives will be overwhelmed by illegals jammed into apartments and driving large SUVs.
Not if Americans wake up and make things uncomfortable for them so that they self deport, taking their SUVs back to Central America with them. So who is the guy in Yonkers that is so interested in Marin?
Charles McGlashan

Novato, CA

#16 Aug 9, 2010
Jack wrote:
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Not if Americans wake up and make things uncomfortable for them so that they self deport, taking their SUVs back to Central America with them. So who is the guy in Yonkers that is so interested in Marin?
It's me. I use a wireless AOL connection.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#17 Aug 9, 2010
You know there's too much debt when local governments pass a deal that backs loans to be paid with future taxes, and the feds think it's too risky (to them).
Enough

San Rafael, CA

#18 Aug 9, 2010
All the collective sacrifice and investment to save energy and reduce our carbon footprint by concerned environmentalist in Marin will be more than overwhelmed by low income housing that hosts immigrants who traditionally have large numbers of children.
Would you feel comfortable if some public authority demanded and forced you to write a check for say, a thousand dollars a year, payable to a group of immigrants from Central America?
That is what they are doing less directly by forcing the building of low cost housing in Marin. You will pay for it in crime, more crowded schools, more infrastructure etc.“But it’s state law!” To hell with the state, let them sue and force the building of it. We need politicians with guts, or at least to eliminate from office people that go along with and promote it, like Susan Adams who is president of ABAG. OK, slap a few solar panels on them, that'll make a few people that are innumerate feel good but will be self defeating.

Since: Jun 09

San Anselmo, CA

#19 Aug 9, 2010
"Another less likely, approach would be for the Marin Energy Authority to front the money for the solar installations, Weisz said."
Whose $20 million are you threatening to lend? and where do you plan on getting it?

Wow - reading this story is like striking a mother lode of hubris and cluelessness. Beyond the usual and anticipated nonsense from Weisz and McGlashan, I think that the real news in this story starts with the following... "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are saying,'Wait a minute. We don't want anything to get above our mortgage payback. We don't want anything to go ahead of us on the cash flow waterfall,'" Weisz said. read on .."California Attorney General Jerry Brown has filed suit against Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the FHFA over their actions blocking PACE programs."

Dawn Weisz - In what way is people paying back the money they borrowed to buy a house a "cash flow waterfall"? and why do you think that you either have a right to dip into this money that is not yours, or that you should go to first in the line should there be a default?
Attorney General Brown - on what legal grounds do you argue that a local energy program can take precedence over, and get in line in front of, the actual lender on the property or the rules of the Federally backed and regulated Fannie and Freddie?
Earth to Brown - we are trying to strengthen our financial and real estate lending regulations and oversight to prevent another financial meltdown - LIKE THE ONE WE ARE NOW IN! Why do you want to be Governor (again)?
OVER RATED

United States

#20 Aug 9, 2010
Solar and wind are about 2% of energy in the US. The goal, depending on whos you use, is to get it up to 4-5% in 2o years.
What about the other 95%? Not going to happen.
We will never even come close to being energy indepenedt.
The best an individual can hope for is to install your own sysem if you have the ability.(location, money, etc.) Even then it will take you 20 years to get payback.
free spender

San Rafael, CA

#21 Aug 9, 2010
Gotta love these Leftist Socialist types. They feel that they can trample over the rights of mortgage holders because of their "MORALLY SUPERIOR" position of providing solar energy to to the homeowner.

Her position is unconstitutional since it seizes the rights of mortgage holders to get paid first. It is a clever way of getting around the "sticky eonomic reality" that solar is not economically feasible for the homeowner.

These people are dangerous. Time for adults to be in charge.

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