Republican push on immigration makes ...

Republican push on immigration makes an enemy: farmers

There are 193 comments on the Bend Bulletin story from Jul 31, 2011, titled Republican push on immigration makes an enemy: farmers. In it, Bend Bulletin reports that:

Farmers across the country are rallying to fight a Republican-sponsored bill that would force them and all other employers to verify the legal immigration status of their workers, a move some of them say could imperil not only future harvests but also the agricultural community's traditional support for conservative candidates.

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Since: May 11

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#1 Jul 31, 2011
"Carlton said, 344 Americans came forward to fill 1,800 pickers’ jobs; only eight were still working at the end of the two-month season."

Big shock- Americans won't do crappy jobs with low wages. Who could have predicted that? lol

Crops will rot in the fields. Not exactly what we need when the economy is already in the tank, and food prices are already rising.
sterco

Butte, MT

#2 Jul 31, 2011
libertarian4321 wrote:
"Carlton said, 344 Americans came forward to fill 1,800 pickers’ jobs; only eight were still working at the end of the two-month season."
Big shock- Americans won't do crappy jobs with low wages. Who could have predicted that? lol
Crops will rot in the fields. Not exactly what we need when the economy is already in the tank, and food prices are already rising.
You can legally hire imported workers!!! You simply have to see to it that they are taken care of!!! It is not the taxpayers responsibility to see to the harvesters social well being!!! IT IS THE FARMERS!!! Have you ever seen a farmer who didn't have his hand out? Hiring illegal aliens and having the taxpayer provide for them is just another subsidy for the farmer. They have far too many subsidies. The law provides for immigrant labor the farmer just doesn't want to go the proper course.
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#3 Jul 31, 2011
There will be no crops rotting in the fields and there will be no conservative farmers supporting a progressive, leftist, democrat agenda.

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#4 Jul 31, 2011
sterco wrote:
<quoted text> Have you ever seen a farmer who didn't have his hand out? They have far too many subsidies.
Well, at least we agree on something.
Koky

Benton Harbor, MI

#5 Jul 31, 2011
sterco wrote:
<quoted text> You can legally hire imported workers!!! You simply have to see to it that they are taken care of!!! It is not the taxpayers responsibility to see to the harvesters social well being!!! IT IS THE FARMERS!!! Have you ever seen a farmer who didn't have his hand out? Hiring illegal aliens and having the taxpayer provide for them is just another subsidy for the farmer. They have far too many subsidies. The law provides for immigrant labor the farmer just doesn't want to go the proper course.
you think legal workers are gonna come to work in the fields??... Idiot
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#6 Jul 31, 2011
libertarian4321 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, at least we agree on something.
I would prefer my tax dollars subsidize a farmer than a worthless negro in the middle of Chicago, Detroit, DC, Philly, Gary, Atlanta, Zimbabwe, Congo, etc.

One helps sustain this nation and one puts it on the road to ruination.

If you do not know which is which you should be forced to attend a public school in Detroit for an education.
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#7 Jul 31, 2011
Koky wrote:
<quoted text> you think legal workers are gonna come to work in the fields??... Idiot
Remove section 8, EBT cards and silly affirmative action laws and you will have plenty of legal Americans looking to pick crops. Many 'legal Americans' have done it for generations right here on US soil.
Whiteguy

United States

#8 Jul 31, 2011
The american dont want to work its simple. They would work yes but then quit as always. Lazy I tell yah lazy. Immigrants are the only ones thar will do those jobs that's why the farmers are fighting the everify system becsuse they know.
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#9 Jul 31, 2011
sterco wrote:
<quoted text> You can legally hire imported workers!!! You simply have to see to it that they are taken care of!!! It is not the taxpayers responsibility to see to the harvesters social well being!!! IT IS THE FARMERS!!! Have you ever seen a farmer who didn't have his hand out? Hiring illegal aliens and having the taxpayer provide for them is just another subsidy for the farmer. They have far too many subsidies. The law provides for immigrant labor the farmer just doesn't want to go the proper course.
You actually deserve to starve.

"It is not the taxpayers responsibility to see to the harvesters social well being!

Yet is is the tax payers responsibility to allow illegal aliens to live the life of an American citizen. It is the taxpayers responsibility to feed and house lazy folks, provide them with drugs, alcohol and spending cash, but the farmers, which feed this nation, should learn some 'personal responsibility'..
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#11 Jul 31, 2011
Whiteguy wrote:
The american dont want to work its simple. They would work yes but then quit as always. Lazy I tell yah lazy. Immigrants are the only ones thar will do those jobs that's why the farmers are fighting the everify system becsuse they know.
All Americans are 'immigrants', and they have a 400 year history of 'working'.

The current crop of illegal aliens do not want to work. They want to take, and progressive liberals are more than happy to 'give', for another democrat vote.
sterco

Butte, MT

#12 Jul 31, 2011
Whiteguy wrote:
The american dont want to work its simple. They would work yes but then quit as always. Lazy I tell yah lazy. Immigrants are the only ones thar will do those jobs that's why the farmers are fighting the everify system becsuse they know.
Farmers are fighting the system because they don't want to be respnsible for their workers. They want to pad their pockets with the profits from cheap labor and have the taxpayer take care of their PEONS!!! The gig is up and they HATE IT!!!
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#13 Jul 31, 2011
It is not "farmers" that want illegal aliens it is agricultural corperations that have designed their business models around government subsidies and subsidized illegal labor.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#14 Jul 31, 2011
As government subsidies and illegal alien labor has increased the number of independent farms has dwindled. Aside from Amish family farms there are very few farmers left in this country. It is true that most Americans and immigrants will not work for minimum wage, in hazardous conditions. Farm work is not only one of the most physically difficult jobs but it is also one of the most dangerous. Why should anybody expect farm laborers to not be fairly compensated? To all the people here who say “Americans are too lazy to do farm work” would you do your job, if in fact you actually have one, for minimum wage, 12 hours a day with a boss who abuses you both mentally and physically? I know many people who do work that’s as dirty, hard and dangerous but they are all paid many times what illegal aliens are paid and they know that if they are injured or killed at work they and their families will not be thrown out on the street like agricultural corporations do to illegal aliens. When an illegal alien is injured on the job they are sent to the emergency room where the U.S. taxpayer covers the bill. If they are no longer able to work due the injury they have no workman’s compensation so they become a burden on the taxpayer for the rest of their stay in the U.S.
I for one will be willing to spend an extra $300.00 a year for my family’s fruits and vegetables so that Americans and immigrants can be paid a decent wage.

Since: Jul 10

Calexico, CA

#16 Jul 31, 2011
But farmers and their advocates scoff at that notion, saying that regardless of high unemployment, few American workers are willing to sign up for what are often hard, hot and long hours in the fields.

This quote sums it all up on how our government keeps people at home. People will not work these jobs because the government gives them a free ride at home on the backs of the poeple who do work. This is a good reason we need to cut alot of the social programs that have made people not want to work.
sterco

Butte, MT

#17 Jul 31, 2011
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Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.

"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."

Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."

"Governor Scott's new drug testing law is not only an affront to families in need and detrimental to our nation's ongoing economic recovery, it is downright unconstitutional," said Rep. Alcee Hastings. "If Governor Scott wants to drug test recipients of TANF benefits, where does he draw the line? Are families receiving Medicaid, state emergency relief, or educational grants and loans next?"

Rep. Corrine Brown said the tests "represent an extreme and illegal invasion of personal privacy."

"Indeed, investigating people when there is probable cause to suspect they are abusing drugs is one thing," Brown said in the joint statement. "But these tests amount to strip searching our state's most vulnerable residents merely because they rely on the government for financial support during these difficult economic times."

Joining in the statement denouncing the measure were Democratic Reps. Kathy Castor, Ted Deutch and Frederica Wilson.

Controversy over the measure was heightened by Scott's past association with a company he co-founded that operates walk-in urgent care clinics in Florida and counts drug screening among the services it provides.
sterco

Butte, MT

#18 Jul 31, 2011
I think the pendulum is on it's way back to sanity.

Since: Jul 10

Calexico, CA

#20 Jul 31, 2011
Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."

I am puzzled here were in the CONSTITUTION does it say people should get WELFARE.
If I need assistance of any kind I would meet all their requirement without questioning them. Who am I to question being given something free. Unless I believe the government owes me all this and should not question what I do with the money.
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#21 Jul 31, 2011
sterco wrote:
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Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure
Rick Scott was one of the best votes I have ever made.
zzZzZz

Pompano Beach, FL

#23 Jul 31, 2011
wildcatdad wrote:
Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."
I am puzzled here were in the CONSTITUTION does it say people should get WELFARE.
If I need assistance of any kind I would meet all their requirement without questioning them. Who am I to question being given something free. Unless I believe the government owes me all this and should not question what I do with the money.
You should have seen them stomping around like little children denied a twentieth cookie before dinner.

These are the same folks calling a photo ID requirement to vote,'racist', while ignoring the fact that all Americans have a photo ID, and they are required to buy simple things like spray paint and permanent markers in many cities.
Keith

Las Vegas, NV

#24 Jul 31, 2011
Koky wrote:
<quoted text> you think legal workers are gonna come to work in the fields??... Idiot
They always did until they were allowed to leave the fields and roam illegally across the country.
At some point soon the illegals will either get back to picking crops or be deported! Americans will no longer lose their jobs and incomes to these illegal aliens.

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