E-Verify could become mandatory

E-Verify could become mandatory

There are 49 comments on the Home Channel News story from Nov 2, 2012, titled E-Verify could become mandatory. In it, Home Channel News reports that:

Verify has found a champion in presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who would make the federal electronic employee verification system mandatory nationwide so that U.S. employment would become less of a magnet for illegal immigration.

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Since: Apr 10

La Canada Flintridge, CA

#43 Nov 5, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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Nothing of such imposed magnitude can be reversed overnight. As asserted, the real issue is getting the Socialist Democrats to self-impose honesty in their lives, which would immediately and greatly impact the number of illegal immigrants. Decreasing the number of fake SSI and food stamp recipients would put them back into the workforce; resultant competition would discourage illegal immigrants and a reduction in the Democrat inspired underground economy. The answers will be in the redevelopment of honest character in US citizens and negative sanctions on businesses caught violating those interests. Any other incremental imposition of lessening freedoms will only make the problems worse. The self-defeating inclinations of Socialists of any political persuasion is to implement controls easily used by Socialists to do so many bad things, which history has shown them willing and inclined to do.
Ok... I understand that you're partisan politicking here but you're not demonstrating a better way at improving the current Form I-9, Employment. Eligibility Verification process.

Illegals are entering the USA by the droves and this has happened under both Republican & Democratic administrations so for you to only blame Democrats is haphazard and lacklustering.

So back to E-verify, it only throws a red flag if a person using a SSN does not match the card holder name, that's not going to stop illegal aliens from finding work. That's window dressing.

Since: Apr 10

La Canada Flintridge, CA

#44 Nov 5, 2012
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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So rather than use the existing system that cross checks the Social Security number with the name and gives a go or no go answer in seconds via the internet you propose we pass a law requiring every American to submit to finger printing in order to hold a job. Their prints would be stored in a federal database and every employer would have to finger print each applicant and some how cross reference with that database.
That of course would require all employers to purchase equipment to capture and transmit the finger prints to a central database for cross referencing. While most employers do have internet access few have the equipment needed for capturing finger prints and cross referencing them for a match. Who is going to pay for that?
Of course there would have to be a way to prevent all of the millions of people who have the equipment and access to the system from abusing the system.
The law suits alone from the civil rights and pro-illegal groups would tie it up in court for decades and cost millions.
The cost of such a system and the resources required would be astronomical assuming that the court challenges fail.
The cost of prosecuting those who refuse to submit to finger printing would also be huge. I am sure that many people whose finger prints are not in the system already would not be happy if they were forced to submit there finger prints to the federal government.
Nearly every “secure” document technology has been defeated. Do you think that a finger print I.D. cannot be defeated especially if you create a hug market for those that defeat it?
I am sure there are many more reasons that we cannot force all Americans to submit to having their finger prints placed in a federal database linked to every business in the United States but I see no reason to list them all.
At the current rate, the illegals will eventually force more legal workers out of a job under the the current Form I-9, Employment. Eligibility Verification system along with E-verify. As you say, "secure" documents are easily defeated.

So I'm open to solutions. Biometrics are a useful tool in combating fraud. LEO's use it, high security companies use them, the DMV uses them and they're pretty safe.

I'm sure that some people cringe at having a central database of lawful workers fingerprints but then again, nobody has a problem with having a centralized database of criminals biometrics such as in the case of Secure Communities 287(g).
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#45 Nov 5, 2012
The Real American wrote:
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At the current rate, the illegals will eventually force more legal workers out of a job under the the current Form I-9, Employment. Eligibility Verification system along with E-verify. As you say, "secure" documents are easily defeated.
So I'm open to solutions. Biometrics are a useful tool in combating fraud. LEO's use it, high security companies use them, the DMV uses them and they're pretty safe.
I'm sure that some people cringe at having a central database of lawful workers fingerprints but then again, nobody has a problem with having a centralized database of criminals biometrics such as in the case of Secure Communities 287(g).
A central database of criminal’s biometrics has been long established. Establishing a database of honest Americans and opening up that database employers or those that claim to be employers it is no going to go over well with most Americans.
We have e-verify and it works. It is not perfect but it takes away any excuse the employer has for breaking the law and protects the employer if the employee uses false or stolen I.D. there is no reason that an honest employer would not use e-verify. It is quick, simple and it protects them from criminal and civil liability.
Stop black thugs

Jackson, TN

#46 Nov 5, 2012
Vote Romney wrote:
Obama never wanted Napolitano to insist E-Verify be used. Instead she's held it hostage as she wants AMNESTY for ALL ILLEGALS. Just say no to Obama on Nov 6th!
I support ANYTHING that stops the flood of criminals from Mexico (and sneaking in DOES make a person a criminal)!

We should require all job applications and government documents to be ENGLISH ONLY; if you can't speak and read/write English GO HOME!
Hollywood White Power

Pasadena, CA

#47 Nov 5, 2012
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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A central database of criminal’s biometrics has been long established. Establishing a database of honest Americans and opening up that database employers or those that claim to be employers it is no going to go over well with most Americans.
We have e-verify and it works. It is not perfect but it takes away any excuse the employer has for breaking the law and protects the employer if the employee uses false or stolen I.D. there is no reason that an honest employer would not use e-verify. It is quick, simple and it protects them from criminal and civil liability.
If honest employers have no problem using E-verify then honest Americans should have no problem presenting a biometric thumbprint to prove they're who they say they are.

Of course I know that some are against providing a thumbprint to a database but you have to ask yourself how bad do you want to stop illegal aliens from getting employed?

The current system so far allows about 7 million illegal aliens to slip past the current Form I-9, Employment. Eligibility Verification system.

So now we have E-verify. Well lets use it nationwide but the flaws in the program will allow the sneaky ones to slip on by and lets get real here, they're all sneaky little fkers.
Hollywood White Power

Pasadena, CA

#48 Nov 5, 2012
Stop black thugs wrote:
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I support ANYTHING that stops the flood of criminals from Mexico (and sneaking in DOES make a person a criminal)!
We should require all job applications and government documents to be ENGLISH ONLY; if you can't speak and read/write English GO HOME!
If you think that trying to make everyone speak English is the fix all solution to stopping people from coming to the USA, then you're in for an upsetting surprise.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#50 Nov 5, 2012
Hollywood White Power wrote:
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If honest employers have no problem using E-verify then honest Americans should have no problem presenting a biometric thumbprint to prove they're who they say they are.
Of course I know that some are against providing a thumbprint to a database but you have to ask yourself how bad do you want to stop illegal aliens from getting employed?
The current system so far allows about 7 million illegal aliens to slip past the current Form I-9, Employment. Eligibility Verification system.
So now we have E-verify. Well lets use it nationwide but the flaws in the program will allow the sneaky ones to slip on by and lets get real here, they're all sneaky little fkers.
There are limits to what is practical and possible. As for illegals being sneaky that is true but so are some Americans and giving the government and employers access to a finger print database is not a wise thing to do. There are many things that could be done to make e-verify harder to beat such as crossing the SS#s aginst known stolen I.D. and notifying the SS# holder when fraud is detected.
cute donkeys

Springfield, NJ

#51 Nov 5, 2012
People must understand that the illegal is here because the governing class wants it that way. Why do you think the main stream news almost never covers this issue? I know it's totally unfair but that's how the power game works. The best we can do is keep these illegals away and at arms length on a local level

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#52 Nov 5, 2012
cute donkeys wrote:
People must understand that the illegal is here because the governing class wants it that way. Why do you think the main stream news almost never covers this issue? I know it's totally unfair but that's how the power game works. The best we can do is keep these illegals away and at arms length on a local level
Obama is a creation of the powerful elite.
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