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USMA chief wants to change lyrics of 2 West Point songs

There are 2 comments on the Newsday story from May 15, 2008, titled USMA chief wants to change lyrics of 2 West Point songs. In it, Newsday reports that:

The head of the U.S. Military Academy thinks it's time to replace the "men" and "sons" in West Point 's two most beloved songs with more gender-neutral lyrics.

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Former Femal Cadet

United States

#1 May 16, 2008
What a great day for the Academy! When female cadets are told they are in a "man's world," and struggle with various forms of sexism, little things such as words in songs can make matters worse and sexism seem acceptable. It looks like gender equality has made some progress at USMA over the past few years, and this only reflects that. Kudos tor the Lt. Gen. for bringing up this matter, I'm sure he received some flack for it!
Old Grad

Greenway, VA

#2 Jan 22, 2012
What does it matter? It's not the same Academy anymore anyway. The cadets of today have it a lot easier, because the course was softened to accommodate a weaker generation. The old course was too demanding for the average cadet of today. There was pressure to increase the graduation rate due to cost. They liberalized the curriculum to accommodate cadets that are math, science and engineering challenged and that has resulted in a much lighter academic load. If you don't agree, check the graduation rates for classes from the 60's and 70's with today and the credit hour load. I don't think they should call it a military academy anymore. It’s more like a military university which causes me to wonder if we even need a military academy anymore. You can get the same product from ROTC at a lot better cost. West Point used to have an engineering curriculum and all cadets essentially took the same program with a few (6) electives. That’s why it was an academy as opposed to a college or university. Now, it’s a liberal arts college with a lot of electives (read that as easier courses – yes it’s true) and they like to advertise graduates of character. Well, that briefs well, but the facts that I’ve observed is that the character is fixed with the admissions and the true character doesn’t really change. If you lacked character when you entered West Point, you lacked character when you graduated and a lot of graduates lacked character. Do be fooled by all the propaganda issued by the academy. Why do we need a university on the Hudson? We don’t; the diversity of academic backgrounds is fulfilled by ROTC graduates. Back in the early 80’s West Point graduates comprised 10% of the annual officer accessions, but accounted for 80% of the annual math, science and engineering degree requirements. I think we are doing the graduates of today a disservice by not giving them the real West Point experience.

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