Obama rolling back Bush-era education law

There are 20 comments on the St. Augustine Record story from Sep 23, 2011, titled Obama rolling back Bush-era education law. In it, St. Augustine Record reports that:

President Barack Obama, trying to energize school improvement at the local level, wants to give states the flexibility to opt out of provisions of the No Child Left Behind law, a Bush-era education initiative that has grown increasingly unpopular as more schools risk being labeled a failure.

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Since: Aug 10

Atlanta, GA

#1 Sep 23, 2011
No Child Left Behind is a dismal failure.
Lonewolf

Leesville, SC

#2 Sep 23, 2011
The educational system in this country stinks,it's time to go back to the basics.They need to stop spending all year teaching the achievement tests.
Sam

Miamisburg, OH

#3 Sep 23, 2011
Everything Bush was involved in was a total disaster.Our children are 15 years behind the rest of the world.Other nations were studying while our kids played video games. Parenting is a job Americans are not able to do.Teaching begins at the family level at home.
Sam

Miamisburg, OH

#4 Sep 23, 2011
Charter schools have ruined our educational system.Only the rich get educational opportunities.
Irascible Infidel

Madison, WI

#7 Sep 23, 2011
In WI, we're now using public funds to send kids to private, mostly religious themed schools.
Milwaukee's voucher program had 20,300 full-time equivalent voucher students at 102 private schools in 2010-11, compared to about 80,000 students at Milwaukee's public K-12 schools. The total cost, at $6,442 per voucher student, was $130.8 million, of which about $90 million came from the state and the rest from the Milwaukee Public Schools.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/educati...
x-nutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Sep 23, 2011
Sam wrote:
Charter schools have ruined our educational system.Only the rich get educational opportunities.
Alot of middle-class blacks with their kids stuck in disasterous innercity schools like the D.C. district will strongly disagree with you.
Robert

Hollywood, FL

#10 Sep 23, 2011
The federal government needs to get the hell out of education, close the whole department of education. When it comes to the basics, the foundations of education, the non federal government involved public school education my parents got was hands down superior to what I got.

You don't manage education, you hire good teachers and let them teach. That is what the best schools around the world do, only here in america do we try to create some kind of one size fits all federal program.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#14 Sep 23, 2011
tidy catz wrote:
No Child Left Behind is a dismal failure.
of course it is...how could ANYONE expect it to succeed, when the premise of the program was to hold teachers responsible for (omigod!) educating students!
that goes against EVERYTHING the teacher's union stands for!

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#17 Sep 23, 2011
.......... as would every republican candidate.
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this issue is moot.

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#18 Sep 23, 2011
Never was a fan of NCLB myself. However, don't see Oblunder's plan putting us on even footing with other nations, since his plans call for LOWERING standards.

It will certainly make those unions happy though.
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#19 Sep 23, 2011
tidy catz wrote:
No Child Left Behind is a dismal failure.
By what measure?

Test scores are up:
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/main...

Graduation rates are up:
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_scr...

Dropout rates have fallen:
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp...
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#20 Sep 23, 2011
I bet that "rolling back the law" will magicaly not mean cutting off the additional funding it authorized.
Real Liberty

Carol Stream, IL

#21 Sep 23, 2011
Sam wrote:
Charter schools have ruined our educational system.Only the rich get educational opportunities.
The unions and the Democratic party ruined the educational system. Neither speaks for the students and if you beleive they do your are nuts!
WOODCHUCK

North Port, FL

#23 Sep 23, 2011
Robert wrote:
The federal government needs to get the hell out of education, close the whole department of education. When it comes to the basics, the foundations of education, the non federal government involved public school education my parents got was hands down superior to what I got.
You don't manage education, you hire good teachers and let them teach. That is what the best schools around the world do, only here in america do we try to create some kind of one size fits all federal program.
Yes Sir Robert,I agree,as do many others..Get Government out Of Schools..Our Wallets,Our Lives!.can not add to what you wrote,for you are right on....Cheers!

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#24 Sep 23, 2011
every one of the republican candidates wants to shut down the DOE, which would end the NCLB act.
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didn't any of you "republicans" watch the debate?

Since: Aug 10

Atlanta, GA

#25 Sep 23, 2011
carey529 wrote:
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of course it is...how could ANYONE expect it to succeed, when the premise of the program was to hold teachers responsible for (omigod!) educating students!
that goes against EVERYTHING the teacher's union stands for!
How about we also make STUDENTS responsible for THEIR education???? Teachers can turn themselves inside out but if the dumbass sitting in front of him/her is more interested in: cell phone, idpod, Facebook, Twitter, American Idol, or some stupid boy or girlfriend then holding the teacher responsible is futile. We have a country full of stupidity and it starts early on because our nation puts more emphasis on fun and entertainment than education. Our kids follow by example.

Since: Aug 10

Atlanta, GA

#26 Sep 23, 2011
Robert wrote:
The federal government needs to get the hell out of education, close the whole department of education. When it comes to the basics, the foundations of education, the non federal government involved public school education my parents got was hands down superior to what I got.
You don't manage education, you hire good teachers and let them teach. That is what the best schools around the world do, only here in america do we try to create some kind of one size fits all federal program.
The federal government will NEVER give up education because that's how it indoctrinates the next generation.

Since: Aug 10

Atlanta, GA

#27 Sep 23, 2011
YouHelpFixIt wrote:
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By what measure?
Test scores are up:
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/main...
Graduation rates are up:
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_scr...
Dropout rates have fallen:
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp...
Test scores up???? Maybe, like Atlanta, a lot of educators around the country have felt compelled to "cheat" for their students instead of having to take the heat and lose their jobs because the kids were too lazy or stupid to learn.

Teaching/learning is mutual. A teacher can't teach unless a student is willing to learn, and a student can't learn unless a teacher is willing to teach. So how do YOU determine WHO is NOT doing what they are supposed to be doing?
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#28 Sep 23, 2011
anneutral wrote:
every one of the republican candidates wants to shut down the DOE, which would end the NCLB act.
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didn't any of you "republicans" watch the debate?
Yes, shutting down the DOE would cut off the funding and the eliminate the burdensome Federal requirements that hold states/schools accountable. This plan only wants to remove the federal requirements but leave the funding in place.

Even crazy spendaholic big government types should see a problem with that.
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#29 Sep 23, 2011
tidy catz wrote:
<quoted text>
How about we also make STUDENTS responsible for THEIR education???? Teachers can turn themselves inside out but if the dumbass sitting in front of him/her is more interested in: cell phone, idpod, Facebook, Twitter, American Idol, or some stupid boy or girlfriend then holding the teacher responsible is futile. We have a country full of stupidity and it starts early on because our nation puts more emphasis on fun and entertainment than education. Our kids follow by example.
Utimately the kids are responsible for thier own education and will be held accountable by society when they try to geta job. But that does not mean we should refuse to measure the Teacher's performance and hold them accountable for thier effeciveness.

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