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Bachmann, other GOP leaders rethinking total ban on earmarks

There are 100 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 9, 2010, titled Bachmann, other GOP leaders rethinking total ban on earmarks. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

After agreeing to kill earmarks, some of the most conservative GOP lawmakers are already starting to ask themselves: What have we done? Indeed, many Republicans are now worried that the bridges in their districts won't be fixed, the tariff relief to the local chemical company isn't coming and the water systems might not be built without a little ...

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Lies

Saint Paul, MN

#85 Dec 10, 2010
Bachmann being a hypocrite? What a surprise!
Guns, God, and abortion!(While she picks your pocket for the wealthy!)
Porkulus

Monroe, LA

#86 Dec 10, 2010
"The culture on appropriations has been for the last couple of decades that this is a 'Favor Factory,' " Flake says, using a term coined by the disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff. "So by and large the only people who have sought a seat have been those who want to give out the goodies." Anti-pork activists like him (to the extent that they existed) were never considered for a seat on the committee. Now that he's a member, Flake hopes to inspire a new nickname: "the Cutting Committee."

Flake argues that the GOP's lack of desirable candidates for chairman is indicative not only of how corrupting the appropriations process has become, but also of why Republicans were rejected at the polls in 2006 and 2008. In other words, Republicans started spending like Democrats.

One of Flake's primary goals is to shine a light on the "notoriously opaque" appropriations process. After years of fighting runaway spending as an outsider, he's all too familiar with the frustrating procedural minutiae that often prevent other members of Congress, let alone the American public, from knowing exactly how funding is allocated. "Itís like pulling teeth," he says. "From what I'm told, it's difficult even for members on the committee to know whatís going on."

Democrats ( like LeDumbo) have been using Rogers's appointment in an attempt to drive a wedge between the Tea Party and "establishment" Republicans.

But itís fair to say that Democrats, who havenít exactly been clamoring for appropriations oversight, let alone an earmarks moratorium, are probably far happier with Hal Rogers as chairman than they would be with someone like Jeff Flake, who says he would relish the opportunity to lead the committee someday. "You come here to Congress to have influence, and thatís certainly an influence I'd like to have," he says. "If I told you I didnít want to be chairman Iíd be lying."

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/254984...
Bill

Saint Paul, MN

#87 Dec 10, 2010
Well, well the true colors of the Republicans are now showing. I told one tea bag member that if you get elected and win, you're going to be nothing more than a corrupt pol. He's said, I think you're right and this proves it.

Michelle figured out that she can't get reelected without bringing home the bacon.
CommonCents

Minneapolis, MN

#88 Dec 10, 2010
You mean the "we're take our contry back" Tea Party darlings are just more of the same? What a joke. Funny, "reform" stops when the funds get cut off. Bachmann slurps up her share of Fed. Tax handouts too, nice subsidy income Michelle.
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#89 Dec 10, 2010
Hypocritical bachmanns wrote:
mouth strikes again. She probably doesn't mean to say mean or irrational or unprocessed statements--just has faulty brain wiring.
You know that mouse with the "fully functioning human brain" that Christine O'Donnell (R.I. republican senate candidtate, for those who have forgotten) was talking about?
They must have done something with the mouse brain, and also there was someone who was short the brain that went to the mouse. I wonder where that mouse brain went ...
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#90 Dec 10, 2010
Not Having It wrote:
I knew it. Once the GOP is back in power, they change their tune. We saw exactly what they were all about from 2000 to 2008, and it nearly destroyed our country. Now a clueless, forgetfull electorate is ready to vote for them again??
Well, this is what happens when stupid people vote for stupid people.
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#91 Dec 10, 2010
"
-- Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., a tea party favorite who lost out on his bid to chair the House Appropriations Committee, thinks his party may have overreached.
-- Rep. Steve LaTourette, R-Ohio, thinks some GOP freshmen don't even know what they got themselves into by banning member-directed measures.
"
Ya think?
Frank W

Spartanburg, SC

#92 Dec 10, 2010
Good grief, has it really come to this? There is a difference between spending money to fix something that is actually broken, and that the federal government actually has a responsibility to fix, and spending money on a pet project like a labor museum or a green-bean museum because representative or senator who wants to build monuments to himself in his home state or district. Take drive through West Virginia and see how many landmarks bear the name Robert C. Byrd.

You handle this stuff through common sense. If there's work that actually needs to be done, present a justification of spending the money for it. But if it's a "new" proposal, like some pie-in-the-sky high-speed rail system, have the sense to realize that it's not worth it during a time when the nation needs to find ways to cut spending.

Is there any common sense left in our nation's capital?
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#93 Dec 10, 2010
Margin of Error wrote:
Any of them that do not vote to ban earmarks, need to be banned themselves at the voting booth!!!!
Isn't that what you said you did last October? How is that tea party banny ear markey thing thing workin' out for ya?
Not Having It

Saint Paul, MN

#94 Dec 10, 2010
Crusoe wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, this is what happens when stupid people vote for stupid people.
I totally agree. It's sad.
Gus

Minneapolis, MN

#95 Dec 10, 2010
It will be interesting to see if the purists jump down her throat. It's easy to make government the enemy rhetorically, but hard to govern the way the tea party thinks you should
Gdubs

Saint Paul, MN

#96 Dec 10, 2010
Gus wrote:
It will be interesting to see if the purists jump down her throat. It's easy to make government the enemy rhetorically, but hard to govern the way the tea party thinks you should
This is why Tea Party will be a short lived movement. You can't govern a 21st Century World Power by insisting on following only the laws written by 18th century gentlemen farmers.

The Tea Party would do a okay job governing colonial Virginia, but Modern America is beyond the scope of their intellectual framework.
Gdubs

Saint Paul, MN

#97 Dec 10, 2010
Crusoe wrote:
<quoted text>
You know that mouse with the "fully functioning human brain" that Christine O'Donnell (R.I. republican senate candidtate, for those who have forgotten) was talking about?
They must have done something with the mouse brain, and also there was someone who was short the brain that went to the mouse. I wonder where that mouse brain went ...
She was running in Delaware, not Rhode Island. It wasn't *that* long ago...

Go find that mouse brain.

“Ignorantia valde pestifera.”

Since: Jan 09

Harding Township, NJ

#98 Dec 10, 2010
Gdubs wrote:
<quoted text>
She was running in Delaware, not Rhode Island. It wasn't *that* long ago...
Go find that mouse brain.
What's the difference between Delaware and Rhode Island?

Delaware's the one with a "D" in it.

(If you don't get it, you never will.)

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#99 Dec 10, 2010
Gus wrote:
It will be interesting to see if the purists jump down her throat. It's easy to make government the enemy rhetorically, but hard to govern the way the tea party thinks you should
You are right. It is hard to take away things that people think they are entitled to. But that doesn't mean that building a smaller and more efficient government is a misguided objective.

Now, ban all the friggin' earmarks, get the Feds back to doing only what is allowed by the Constitution, and let the States decide how to manage the rest.
muD

New York, NY

#100 Dec 10, 2010
This would be so funny if it weren't so sad.
CONSERVATIVE

Dahlonega, GA

#101 Dec 10, 2010
As outspoken as some were during the midterms, AGAINST earmarks to now start start crawfishing is NOT the kind of talk we as conservatives like to hear from those we entrusted to stick to their guns and do what they say they would. Unlike liberals we EXPECT our represenitives to keep to their word! I say if they continue the trend we vote their asses out in 2012! We must reinstate the fear of God in them! Their arrogance and elitist mintality has them believing they are NOT subject to the same laws they impose on US! Don't believe me, just look at Charles Rangal! If any of us great unwashed had committed the EXACT same crimes, we would be in JAIL! Regardless of party affiliation. If they aren't doing what they said they would during the campaign. They have to go!
CONSERVATIVE

Dahlonega, GA

#102 Dec 10, 2010
Excuse my spelling. Tequila does that to me!

“Liberty and Justice for ALL!”

Since: Jun 10

Bloomington, MN

#103 Dec 10, 2010
Conservatives upset that 'Prince of Pork' will rule spending panel
By Michael O'Brien - 12/09/10 02:58 PM ET

High-profile conservatives are questioning the decision by House Republicans to place Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.), a veteran lawmaker with a history of earmarking, in charge of a key spending committee.

Richard Viguerie, a longtime conservative activist, said Rogers's election as the next Appropriations Committee chairman (along with Michigan GOP Rep. Fred Upton's selection as chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee) "should cause all conservatives and Tea Partiers to doubt how serious the Republican leadership is about cleaning up the culture of waste, seniority and corruption in Congress."

"Grassroots conservatives are unhappy with the status quo in Washington, and Speaker-designate Boehner needs to balance this slap in the face with something to show conservatives that he is truly committed to reversing the size of government," Viguerie wrote in a blog post Thursday.

Viguerie joins several other conservatives in questioning Rogers's election.

"I donít want to second-guess Boehner, and heís not the one who makes all of these decisions," said Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) earlier this week. "I like the fact they put [Rep.] Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) on appropriations. Hal Rogers may be sorry for the day he became chairman with Jeff on that committee."

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Boehner, the Republicans' Speaker-elect, has sought to deflect criticism of the new appropriations committee by naming Flake and several other reform-minded freshmen GOP lawmakers to the spending committee.

Republicans are under pressure from conservative activists, many of whom are aligned with the Tea Party movement, to show signs of reining in spending and waste. As part of their efforts to demonstrate responsiveness, House and Senate Republicans adopted a voluntary moratorium on the practice of earmarking, which has traditionally been the province of appropriators in both chambers.

Democrats have also joined in piling on Rogers, sending out releases highlighting different outlets' coverage of the Kentucky lawmaker and his nickname as the "Prince of Pork."

Conservatives had pushed for Rep. Jack Kingston's (R-Ga.) election over Rogers in the race for the appropriations chairmanship.

"If you believe the GOP must change their ways, you must then fight against Hal Rogersís appointment and support Jack Kingston instead," wrote Erick Erickson, of the conservative blog RedState, on Wednesday. "This fight is too important. We must rebuke House Republican leaders and compel them to do the right thing."

Also sounding off was Nancy Pfotenhauer, a former senior adviser to Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign.

"I think it was a real misstep and cause for great concern. And I think the public's not going to put up with it," she said of Rogers's election on CNN on Wednesday night.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/n...

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#104 Dec 11, 2010
CONSERVATIVE wrote:
Excuse my spelling. Tequila does that to me!
Keep drinking it. What you wrote above is 100% correct. If they fall back into Bush era antics, vote their butts out. They deserve it.

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