Video: Boehner on "fiscal cliff": "Let's not kid ourselves... we're almost nowhere"

Nov 30, 2012 Full story: CBS News 54

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, confirmed today what many in Washington have feared for days: When it comes to negotiations over the looming "fiscal cliff," he said, "there's a stalemate.

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Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#42 Dec 2, 2012
We all remember how the 1% mercenaries and banksters PROFITED from the war in Iraq, while the rest of America lost loved ones, homes, and jobs.

Now the 1% that raped our US Treasury wants to hold our Middle Class tax cuts hostage to enrich itself more?????

The 1% is loyal only to the Cayman Islands, NOT America.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#43 Dec 2, 2012
WH/no plan on/ FC
This was expected, now he will talk to the boys.
OCCUPATION first, don't expect them to speak to anyone with business experience. The tanking of the economy is in the plan.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#44 Dec 2, 2012
I did not know Harry Reid kept his money in the Cayman Islands.
Makes sense wrote:
We all remember how the 1% mercenaries and banksters PROFITED from the war in Iraq, while the rest of America lost loved ones, homes, and jobs.
Now the 1% that raped our US Treasury wants to hold our Middle Class tax cuts hostage to enrich itself more?????
The 1% is loyal only to the Cayman Islands, NOT America.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#45 Dec 2, 2012
Ex-GOP Con wrote:
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"Obamacare will be unheld unconsitutional"
"Romeny will win the election"
"Romney/Ryan 2012!"
"The world is flat"
bwahahahahahahah.....lol you nutters know NOTHING.
Love the way you run away crying since you can't compete like adults..........just like Obama.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#46 Dec 2, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
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Look fraud, we're all waiting for you to post under your new fake name, au contraire.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#48 Dec 3, 2012
conservative crapola wrote:
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Look fraud, we're all waiting for you to post under your new fake name, au contraire.
hahahahahahahahahaha
Obama Campaign Still Asking for Contributions...

Nader: Worse Than Bush...

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#49 Dec 3, 2012
Gary wrote:
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Debt to GDP ratio was 112% at the end of WWII.
We survived.
But keep your water balloons handy anyway.
However, the money was pegged against gold. Now it is digital debt based currency.

There is a big difference.
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#50 Dec 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
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lefraudbow: Failed.

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Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#51 Dec 3, 2012
Small Town America UGX wrote:
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The high unemployment rates, ever expanding national debt, government bailouts and interventions in the internal affairs of Moslem countries started under Bush have all continued under Obama. The only thing he has done that is not "more of the same" is Obomneycare and he borrowed that one from Romney.
Have you not noticed this arab spring thing? Obama is much more reckless in the Moslem world from Yemen to Egypt to Libya to Syria to Iran to... and in spite of his lies we are still in both Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan. Way to breed terrorists accross the board.
In general I agree. There were way too many similarities between bush and Obama for me to ever vote for Obama. He kept the Pat Act and further enshrined our loss of freedom in the NDAA. He kept the bailouts for the rich bankers, but abandoned the middle class. While Obama is not acceptable, the economy is starting to come around, slowly, weakly, but come around. It should have been much much faster. Allowing the wealthy to take 100% of the growth of the nation continues with Obama. Obama care is the same as Romney care and is intended to extract wealth from the middle class and give it to rich insurance company CEOs.

As to the middle east, I can't say I know what is going on. Our media distorts so much that I know about, they cannot be believed on anything.

Obama could have done well, instead he caters to the rich; at the expense of everyone else. Even sadder is the rich are going for short term gains, at the expense of the long term, which means they end up losing as well.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#52 Dec 4, 2012
conservative crapola wrote:
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lefraudbow: Failed.
hahahahahahahahaha
House Speaker John Boehner said in a statement:


In a letter sent to President Obama today, House Republican leaders made a new offer to avert the fiscal cliff centered around a middle ground approach first presented to Congress last year by President Clinton’s former White House chief of staff, Erskine Bowles. The Bowles plan, presented in 2011 to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, is consistent with the framework House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) proposed the day after the election: a balanced approach of significant spending cuts and new revenues from tax reform with fewer loopholes and lower tax rates. This is another attempt to jumpstart substantive, good faith negotiations toward a bipartisan solution that can be enacted soon, a stark contrast to the unserious proposal the White House put forward last week.

In a document obtained by Right Turn from House Republicans, the plans match up as follows:


President’s Deficit Reduction

Tax Rates Increases:$960B

Elimination of Deductions:$600B

Spending Cuts:$400B



New Stimulus/Other

Infrastructure Spending:-$95-425B

Payroll Tax Extension:-$110B

Unemployment Insurance:-$30B

Stimulus Tax Extenders:-$27B

Unpaid for SGR Patch:-$25B

Mortgage Plan: Unknown

Elimination of Debt Limit: N/A

NET SAVINGS:(At most)$1.673T



House Republican Counter

(Based on the Bowles Proposal to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction)

Deficit Reduction

Revenue through Tax Reform:$800B

Health Savings:$600B

Other Mandatory Savings:$300B

Revision to CPI:$200B

Further Discretionary Savings:$300B

NET SAVINGS:$2.2T

A House leadership aide told Right Turn that “the GOP offer includes more deficit reduction than the White House offer last week, which included hundreds of billions in new ‘stimulus’ spending. Our net deficit reduction is $2.2 trillion, but if we were to utilize White House schemes to count (1) previously-enacted Budget Control Act savings,(2) a war savings gimmick, and (3) further interest savings, our proposal would result in $4.6 trillion in deficit reduction savings, much more than theirs.”

So we have the potential for a deal that is somewhere between Bowles’s plan last year and the president’s plan. It is not, however, a matter of simply total savings. The Republicans have included far less revenue, as well as less revenue to be obtained through tax reform. The Democrats have yet to present a substantive offer that looks at systemic entitlement reform. The Republicans have shown that, contrary to the liberal-media meme, Boehner and not Grover Norquist controls the House.(And we expect this is not even the final GOP offer, leaving room for more revenue perhaps.)

We are far from a deal. We’re not close, but we are no longer “nowhere.” Your turn, Mr. President.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#53 Dec 4, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
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lefraudbo cry-a-thon: One month.....

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Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#54 Dec 4, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>typical liberal reversal to what Obama is doing. Your pussssey president won't even put a plan on the table or meet as men. He sends his taxcheat Geitner to make moronic offers so he can blame republicans again. Let the bastard drive off the cliff, let the tax cuts expire and then we can see how much candy he can buy for you children that want everything but do nothing.
The Tax cuts expiring and sequester cuts puts America on sound footing, back to near the Clinton levels before Bush's madd reign of terror began in America that lead to the Financial and Economic Apocalypse

We've not forgotten it was the Bush/Republican policies that threaten the World Economy and pushed America right off of the cliff to begin with.

This comes down to the Republicans protecting the income of the top 2% of earners in America at the expense of the 98% in America.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#55 Dec 5, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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The Tax cuts expiring and sequester cuts puts America on sound footing, back to near the Clinton levels before Bush's madd reign of terror began in America that lead to the Financial and Economic Apocalypse
We've not forgotten it was the Bush/Republican policies that threaten the World Economy and pushed America right off of the cliff to begin with.
This comes down to the Republicans protecting the income of the top 2% of earners in America at the expense of the 98% in America.
Obama finally sits down........

Obama Consults with MSNBC Hosts Sharpton, Maddow on Tax Rates... TELL US DIMWIT, WHAT ARE THESE CLOWN GOING TO DO ABOUT THE CLIFF AND TAX..........NOTHING. Tell your boy to get off the stage and back to work.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#56 Dec 5, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
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Your copy & pasting sure worked wonders at getting rugby elected. Attaboy, amateur.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

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