House Democrats link war funds to tro...

House Democrats link war funds to troop withdrawal

There are 22 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Nov 15, 2007, titled House Democrats link war funds to troop withdrawal. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Congressional Democrats moved toward a renewed confrontation with the Bush administration over the war in Iraq as the House voted last night to tie $50 billion in new war funding to a call for most U.S. troops ...

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Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#1 Nov 15, 2007
Bravo to the America!

Bravo To President George Bush for winning the War on Teror! Bravo to the brave Iraqis! Finally they have woken up!

And the American troops can plan for their victorious and glorious home-coming! Many who have died helping and defending the helpless Iraqis have not died in vain! They are the real martyrs for the Iraqi Muslims!

Thank Allah for President Bush’s clear-sightedness, resoluteness, sincerity and courage in wanting to help and protect the Iraqis! There’s nothing more precious to President Bush than the lives of innocent Muslims in Iraq, and nothing more noble than defending the innocent Muslims from their Quran-driven AlQaedian demonoids!

So Americans must continue to support their President Bush as Murdoch Rupert is of PM Howard---because victory is just around the corner! The greatest victory to date is undoubtedly the realization by the Iraqis that they must also fight those AlQaedian demonoids themselves and for their own country. If they don't drain the Islamic terrorist swampland, Americans can't be doing it for them to no end! And if their tender virgin daughters are being taken away again by those sex-hungry AlQaedian mujahideens (holy fighters, they say!) in forced "marriages" for a foretaste of their fantasized free sex with voluptuous Paradise virgins, then the Iraqis themselves have to be blamed! Praise Allah for the brave Iraqis!

So the Americans must now mobilize their American Muslims to believe and to say the Prayer of Prophet Suleiman with them as the best preparation for helping the Iraqi Muslims, and as the best inoculation against self-radicalised homegrown American terrorists. So "Inspire me, Lord, to be thankful to Thee for Thy favours to me and my parents to do good deed that will please Thee. Admit me through Thy mercy to be among Thy righteous." An-Naml 27:19. "For the noblest in Allah's sight is he who is the most righteous." Al-Hujurut 49:13.

Through this miracle prayer, Americans can confidently hope for a great spiritual and moral transformation in their blessed homeland! Allahu Akbar!!
Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#2 Nov 15, 2007
Crusading for the Prophet's Prayer!

Bravo to America! Bravo to President George Bush for winning the War on Terror! Bravo to the brave Iraqis! Finally they have woken up! And the American troops can plan for their victorious and glorious home-coming! Now the Republicans and the Democrats have something to agree on---to kiss and make up! Many who have died helping and defending the helpless Iraqis have not died in vain! They are the real martyrs who died for the Iraqi Muslims!

Thank Allah for President Bush’s clear-sightedness, resoluteness, sincerity and courage in wanting to help and protect the Iraqis! There is almost nothing more precious to President Bush than the lives of innocent Muslims in Iraq, and nothing more noble than defending the innocent Muslims from their Quran-driven AlQaedian demonoids!

So Americans must continue to support their President Bush as Murdoch Rupert is of PM Howard---because victory is just around the corner! The greatest victory to date is undoubtedly the realization by the Iraqis that they must also fight those AlQaedian demonoids themselves and for their own country. If they don't drain the Islamic terrorist swampland, Americans can't be doing it for them to no end! And if their tender virgin daughters are being taken away again by those sex-hungry AlQaedian mujahideens (holy fighters, they say!) in forced "marriages" for a foretaste of their fantasized free sex with voluptuous Paradise virgins, then the Iraqis themselves have to be blamed! Praise Allah for the brave Iraqis!

But what the Iraqis need is not democracy---Jeffersonian or not---but the Prayer of Prophet Suleiman to bring peace, progress and prosperity to Iraq. Democracy can't change lives. The Prayer of Prophet Suleiman can definitely do that.

So Americans must also mobilize their anti-Bush American Muslims to believe and to say the Prayer of Prophet Suleiman with them as the best preparation for helping the Iraqi Muslims, and as the best inoculation against self-radicalised homegrown American terrorists. This is Prophet Suleiman's Prayer (who is otherwise known as King Solomon in the Holy Bible): "Inspire me, Lord, to be thankful to Thee for Thy favours to me and my parents to do good deed that will please Thee. Admit me through Thy mercy to be among Thy righteous." An-Naml 27:19. "For the noblest in Allah's sight is he who is the most righteous." Al-Hujurut 49:13.

Through this miracle prayer, Americans can confidently hope for a great spiritual and moral transformation in their blessed homeland too! Allahu Akbar!! God is Greatest!!
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#3 Nov 15, 2007
Yea sure,whatever Oh Tham.

I don't see Bush doing much to help the desperate people of Darfur, who are terrorized daily by Muslim "demonoids".

The republicans who support Bush did not want to lift a finger to help the Muslins in Kosavo from being terroized by the Serbs, and rode Clinton constantly about how he was dragging us into a "quagmire". LOL <with an ironic sneer>

Just so happens that Iraq sits on the world's second largest oil reserves. If you want to know the "noble" Bush & Cheney's motivation for "helping" the Iraqi people --there it is...

Ditto for your hero Rupert Murdoch, the founder of Republican Television.
AidandComfortToT he Enemy

Romulus, MI

#4 Nov 15, 2007
Given the facts, given the evidence, given our experiences over the last four and one-half years, it is long past time for a new direction in Iraq," Hoyer said before the vote. "That is precisely what this legislation represents."
Surrender Surrender Surrender Hate Bush Hate Bush Hate Bush Hate Bush Surrender Surrender
This is what we voted folks. Not one word of what Hoyer said is true. We are winning in Iraq and Dems, owned by special interests, are more determined to defeat Bush than win in Iraq. What a pathetic excuse for a political party. These people are providing aid & compfort to the enemy and should be in jail. Now. Before its too late. Our enemies are laughing in our face.
Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#5 Nov 15, 2007
Jake wrote:
Yea sure,whatever Oh Tham.
I don't see Bush doing much to help the desperate people of Darfur, who are terrorized daily by Muslim "demonoids"....
Just so happens that Iraq sits on the world's second largest oil reserves. If you want to know the "noble" Bush & Cheney's motivation for "helping" the Iraqi people --there it is...
"Jake", I feel so sad that President Bush isn't God. If he were, he would have his mighty angels go and zap those evil aex-hungry demonoida dead, and spare the lives of so many American soldiers and innocent Iraqis. In fact, it is a cosmic mystery why God Himself isn't acting fast enough. Instead, thousands of "innocent" people were killed in Aceh's tsunami, earthquakes here and there, etc, etc. And Bush got to sent his immense warship of supplies and Marines to help the grief-stricken Muslims there. Did he do it for oil, jake?
My Singapore helped in ways disproportionate to our puny size too, and yet the ungrateful Muslim politicians there are often trying to find fault with Singapore and undercutting their rather undecisive President Yud.

Well, things always have their time to happen. Maybe you play too much computer games, and things in the world don't happen in the easy sequence of computer games, Jake! America is already over-stretched, and the world isn't been helpful either. Certainly it cannot always be America's fault when Muslims love raping, robbing and slaughtering Muslims in Darfur and elsewhere---worst than non-Muslims killing their pigs. It's China's and Russia's responsibilty too, Jake, but they aren't being helpful.

So why don't you come out with your grand propsoals and solutions on how you can make Muslims love and help Muslims, instead of laying blame on America! Then peole can nominate you for the biggest Nobel Prize!

For Iraq, tt least there is a good chance that, with its immense oil, it would be easier to turn around after the Iraqis succeed on their part to drain their Islamic terrorist swampland.

And I can hope that my cost of living would not shoot through the roof in the near future if Americ's succeed with Iraq. But if you love to spend all your spare cash just to enrich the already immensely rich oily Arabs, then I don't think I want to waste my time debating with senseless people like you. Perhaps you need a psychiatric evaluation if you still can't get my point.

Or, should I simply put the problems for you this way? Even if we can get Bush hang upside down and barbecue him with Dick Cheney and all the neo-cons, do you really believe we can succeed to entice the AlQaedian demonoids to call for peace and mske the Muslims love each other and stop slaughtering their own people?
Taxpayer

United States

#6 Nov 15, 2007
This is repeating history.
truth

Auburn Hills, MI

#7 Nov 15, 2007
Withdrawal all the troopws from Iraq ASAP. No more blood and money for a huge mistake.
Steve O

Pontiac, MI

#8 Nov 15, 2007
AidandComfortToThe Enemy wrote:
Given the facts, given the evidence, given our experiences over the last four and one-half years, it is long past time for a new direction in Iraq," Hoyer said before the vote. "That is precisely what this legislation represents."
Surrender Surrender Surrender Hate Bush Hate Bush Hate Bush Hate Bush Surrender Surrender
This is what we voted folks. Not one word of what Hoyer said is true. We are winning in Iraq and Dems, owned by special interests, are more determined to defeat Bush than win in Iraq. What a pathetic excuse for a political party. These people are providing aid & compfort to the enemy and should be in jail. Now. Before its too late. Our enemies are laughing in our face.
What a steaming pile of BS.

You are a narrow minded fool who believes any lie that comes out of Bush's mouth.

The only people who can win or lose this war are the Iraqi people and their government. They are doing a pretty lousy job of reconciliation, even though American GI blood and taxpayer dollars have bought them the opportunity.

It is Vietnam all over again, and when we finally leave, whether it is tomorrow or twenty years from now, they will put a new Saddam in charge and it will have all been a huge waste-- sponsered by Bush, the GOP and loud mouths like you.

Of course people like you and Bush have to have a scapegoat for your failures, stupidity and blind arrogance, so you blame democrats.

Your party is an unmitigated disaster filled with sycophants like you, all pumped up with propaganda and hate for anyone who doesn't kiss GOP butt.
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#9 Nov 15, 2007
Oh Tham Eng wrote:
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Did he do it for oil, jake?

Maybe you play too much computer games, and things in the world don't happen in the easy sequence of computer games, Jake! America is already over-stretched, and the world isn't been helpful either. Certainly it cannot always be America's fault when Muslims love raping, robbing and slaughtering Muslims in Darfur and elsewhere---worst than non-Muslims killing their pigs. It's China's and Russia's responsibilty too, Jake, but they aren't being helpful.

So why don't you come out with your grand propsoals and solutions on how you can make Muslims love and help Muslims, instead of laying blame on America! Then peole can nominate you for the biggest Nobel Prize!
For Iraq, tt least there is a good chance that, with its immense oil, it would be easier to turn around after the Iraqis succeed on their part to drain their Islamic terrorist swampland.

But if you love to spend all your spare cash just to enrich the already immensely rich oily Arabs, then I don't think I want to waste my time debating with senseless people like you. Perhaps you need a psychiatric evaluation if you still can't get my point.
1.Yes I do think Bush did it for the oil.

2. I think it is you, Bush and his neoconartist hacks play to many computer games. It was your hero Bush who told the American people that this war would be quick and easy. "shock and awe", cost 50-100 billion and that Americans would be "greeted with flowers". If anyone is delusional it is people like you and Bush.

3. I don't think we can make Muslims stop killing each other or anything else for that matter, because the majority of muslims (not all) seem to hate or at least strongly distrust America and particularly your hero Bush. This is one of the rreasons why I opposed this war of choice from the very beginning. Bush rushed into this war without building a coalition worth a hill of beans (besides Britain and Australia--and their role is shrinking to just about nil). Instead he and his henchmen's swaggering bravado, arrogance and cockiness turned most of the world completely off from helping us beyond Afghanistan. The only Americans I "blame" are the lying neocons like Cheney and Bush and their boot-licking lackeys like you.

4. Why hasn't Iraq already begun to pull its' own weight with "it's immense oil reserves"???? Its been over 4 1/2 years and political progress is about on par with what we experienced in Vietnam. Are you old enough to remember that OH Tham? We lost 58,000+ men "training" the Vietnamese for 14 years and they were suppose to be "ready to stand on their own"--they collapsed like a house of cards if you can remember.

5. You stupid presumptious jerk, I drive a hybrid and do everything I can to reduce my oil consumption PRECISELY because I do not want to ENRICH MUSLIM CRETINS who then use the money to fund groups that would love to kill us! Like the Bush's favorite family the "royal" Faud's. Their countries roll in 9/11 was preeminent. It is the same Bush lovers like you who drive around in gas guzzlers and consume oil like its an act of manhood. Enriching Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuala, Russia, etc.

6. Perhaps you should pull your head out of your lower orifice if you can't get my point.
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#10 Nov 15, 2007
Steve O wrote:
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What a steaming pile of BS.
You are a narrow minded fool who believes any lie that comes out of Bush's mouth.
The only people who can win or lose this war are the Iraqi people and their government. They are doing a pretty lousy job of reconciliation, even though American GI blood and taxpayer dollars have bought them the opportunity.
It is Vietnam all over again, and when we finally leave, whether it is tomorrow or twenty years from now, they will put a new Saddam in charge and it will have all been a huge waste-- sponsered by Bush, the GOP and loud mouths like you.
Of course people like you and Bush have to have a scapegoat for your failures, stupidity and blind arrogance, so you blame democrats.
Your party is an unmitigated disaster filled with sycophants like you, all pumped up with propaganda and hate for anyone who doesn't kiss GOP butt.
Right on Steve.

This idiot spouting off like a little tin-horned dictator about sending people to prison (read "concentration camps"), if they don't agree with King George II and his neoconartist bloviators. So typical of the fascist mentality that has dominated this administration.

I think he should get off his fat butt and go over there and fight if he believes in this stinking war so much.

Oh that's right, Bush and the neocons made arm chair patriotism fashionable. You can be a tough, arrogant, "patriot" while sitting on your butt eating Cheetos in front of the tube, whining about democrats.

You said it all Steve O--this guy is a steaming pile of BS.
Bobby Appian

United States

#11 Nov 15, 2007
Looks like the democrats are going out on a limb to try to keep Bush from succeeding in Iraq.

They seem more concerned about the terrorists than they do about our US troops.

Why can't we sell war bonds like we did in World War II?

Why do we need to completely fund this with taxpayers dollars?

The dems are digging their own political graves doing this when the fighting in Iraq is finally going our way.

Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#12 Nov 15, 2007
Jake wrote:
<quoted text>
1.Yes I do think Bush did it for the oil.
2. I think it is you, Bush and his neoconartist hacks play to many computer games. It was your hero Bush who told the American people that this war would be quick and easy...If anyone is delusional it is people like you and Bush.
3. I don't think we can make Muslims stop killing each other or anything else for that matter, because the majority of muslims (not all) seem to hate or at least strongly distrust America and particularly your hero Bush.
4. Why hasn't Iraq already begun to pull its' own weight with "it's immense oil reserves"???...
5. You stupid presumptious jerk, I drive a hybrid and do everything I can to reduce my oil consumption PRECISELY because I do not want to ENRICH MUSLIM CRETINS who then use the money to fund groups that would love to kill us!....
6. Perhaps you should pull your head out of your lower orifice if you can't get my point.
May Allah bless you,Jake and cure you of your benightedness. But if you choose to be benighted, then Allah and His angels cannot do anything to help you see the light. Firstly, I need you to teach me how to play computer games. I dont know how. Im a very busy man, and if you wish to teach me, you must try your luck to come into my tight schedule.
Secondly, Osamas good friend and erstwhile mentor and pamphleteer for jihad, the popular Saudi Islamic scholar and cleric, has recently attacked not President Bush, but Osama for giving a very bad image to Islam as a religion of backwardness, violence and evil because of the butchery and evil Muslims have suffered from their AlQaedian brethren and ideology. And you are still attacking President Bush, while the belatedly awakened Iraqis are now enthusiastically supporting Americans and realising American soldiers are their true friends. So anyone still spreading lies about the winning Bush losing the Iraq War are just that---liars and doing the devils work!
Thirdly, you need to pick up an elementary book on economics to help you understand something so elementary as the cost of oil affecting every aspect of our costs of living.
Fourthly, your big old American automobile still consumes far too much petrol than my small, fuel-efficient Japanese-made car. And that is a scientific fact! If you want to be credible in this debate, I suggest you better give up on your old gas guzzler and walk or cycle. You must not even take a bus or a train. They consume huge quantities of oil too to transport you around, Jake. So don't be a hypocrite or a simpleton.
I can't have my cost of living shooting through the roof paying ransom to those immensely rich oily Arabs and helping them laugh all their way to their banks. If you love doing this stupid thing, please keep it to yourself. Please don't impose your silly ideology on us, the poor people. If you have too much money and dont know how to spend it, why dont you give it to me as I need it to finance my charitable works, Jake?

Fifthly,(to be continued below)...
Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#13 Nov 15, 2007
Steve O wrote:
<quoted text>
What a steaming pile of BS.
You are a narrow minded fool who believes any lie that comes out of Bush's mouth....
It is Vietnam all over again, and when we finally leave, whether it is tomorrow or twenty years from now, they will put a new Saddam in charge and it will have all been a huge waste-- sponsered by Bush, the GOP and loud mouths like you.
Of course people like you and Bush have to have a scapegoat for your failures, stupidity and blind arrogance, so you blame democrats.
Your party is an unmitigated disaster filled with sycophants like you, all pumped up with propaganda and hate for anyone who doesn't kiss GOP butt.
....
Fifthly, " Jake" and Steve O", Bush and all the neo-cons believe like what you and I believe: that the majority of Muslims are sensible and good people. But most of them are simply cowards and benighted, until they are threatened by their Muslim butcher-men, like Saddam Hussein or the AlQaedians demonoids., and then run, not to their jeering Muslim brethren for help, but to the American and the Western infidels. Just see how the Muslims enthusiastically drive down almost every Muslim country and society to be the last or among the last and most backward in the world! Please understand their self-imposed backwardness is not your fault or Bush's!

Sixthly, Bush did not write their Quran to instigate Muslims to hate you and me. Verses like Ali-Imran 3:118-120 did: "[Muslims], do not make friends with any but your own Muslim people.[Non-Muslims] will spare no pain to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is their hatred which their breasts conceal....See how Muslims love the non-Muslims and non-Muslims do not love the Muslims...When Muslims are blessed with good fortune, non-Muslims grieve; but when evil befalls on the Muslims, non-Muslims rejoice."

Before 911 and after, I have been helping the Muslim people in obedience to Prophet Suleiman's prayer. If you hate the Muslims and do not want them to progress and prosper and be free from their sex=hungry AlQaedian demonoids and ideology, I'm so sorry for you. Youll surely go to hellfire for your hatred if you want evil for Muslims.

Singapore, a non-Muslim country without any rich natural resources, did way beyond its puny size to help the otherwise immensely rich but poor Muslim country of Indonesia when their most Islamic Aceh province was hit by the mighty tsunami, which their Muslim clerics said was Allah's retribution for the very religious Acehneses failure to not make the Sharia their country's law. I dont believe in such nexus.

In Islam, you have a dysfunctional faith in search of a religion. But in the Prayer of Prophet Suleiman, it has found the true religion. So "Inspire me, Lord, to be thankful to Thee for Thy favours to me and my parents to do good deeds which will please Thee. Admit me through Thy mercy to be among Thy righteous", An-Naml 27:19. "For the noblest in Allah's sight is he who is the most righteous."

So join me, will you Jake and Steve O, to say this miracle prayer? Otherwise, light will never be able to penetrate through the thick fog which is causing both your benightedness. It's the pure goodness of the Quran Im giving you, and I have presented cogent reasons and evidences why Muslims must stop believing and thinking that their Quran in only good as a manifesto for their backwardness, benightedness, violence and evil!

(For more interesting read, go to url: http://www.dailynebraskan.com/home/index.cfm... )
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#14 Nov 16, 2007
Listen Oh Tham, I do wish for stability in Iraq, but I honestly think we have done all we can to give them the opportunity to create a stable nation.

I think the democrats should give Bush the "six months" that republicans like William Kristol and others insist is necessary. I say let him complete his administration, but many other democrats disagree.

Have you noticed though that the Shiites in charge are doing nothing to reconcile with the Sunnis who have turned against Al Qaeda? The Iraqi government is failing its own citizens by squabbling and neglecting basic services. The army and police are filled with infiltrators with agendas detrimental to Iraqi reconciliation. This is not our fault. This is not America's "loss" or "defeat".

We won the war, but only the Iraqi people can win the peace.

I believe in God and I respect your faith, but please don't preach at me like I'm some heathen, because I am not.

You seem like a reasonably intelligent guy and I don't want to continue in a battle of insults.

I absolutely do not hate all Muslims. I do intensely dislike,to the point you could call hate, anyone who brutally kills innocent people the way that the al Qaeda demons have to so many.

I wish moderate Muslims, who do not believe in al Qaeda tactics would do a better job of dealing with them.

The people who attacked us on 9/11 are in Pakistan and Afghanistan and growing stronger. We should all pray that they never get hold of Pakistani nukes.

The war in Iraq has been a huge diversion that has taken the focus of capturing the criminals who killed 343 of my brothers at the twin towers. I want those creeps caught and we let them off the hook. That is one of the reasons I am so angry with Bush.

Bush promised us that he would bring in OBL "dead or alive" and then he diverted the resources to do that away from the main front to deal with a fabricated Iraqi threat of WMD.

Saddam was evil and needed to go, but it should have been done with the kind of coalition we had in the first Gulf War, not the rushed patchwork that we went in with that has subsequently fallen apart.
Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#15 Nov 16, 2007
"Jake" finally you are talking sense, and I suddenly feel so close to you. I am so pleased to call you my Brother Jake!

Yes, Bush made mistakes, and things always look so much better and clearer on hindsight. But Bush is trying his very best. Finally we are seeing that hes doing a fine job, at least better than me if I were the US President. That's why we must allow him the time he needs. Otherwise God would not have allowed him a two-term presidency, right?

Otherwise, the losing AlQaedian demonoids will turn around and tell their Muslim brethren and say, "There we told you! We are winning and Allah is therefore with us, not with those infidels. Our Prophet says "Victory comes only from Allah" Ali-Imran 3:136. So join us and you can claim your rewards of marriage with voluptuous Paradise virgins for free sex!"

Of course they have to mention free sex; otherwise why should any Muslim man wants to join in the fight to slaughter Muslims for nothing, and then blaming us for the evil they did to their own people. Now, are you prepared for such an apocalyptical scenario from half of 1.3 billion Muslims?

If Bush is winning, how can Americans be running away from the fight holding the long sword of Islam, from the enemies running away flashing their small Islamic daggers? Go to my write-up in the dailynebraskan.com for the details of my cogent argument, please, and you will see the light. And please spread my postings and my thoughts to all your friends and loved ones.

Finally, please be informed with what Singapore's wise Minister Mentor Lee Kan Yew said, that even if the Israeli-Arab dispute is resolved, there will still be a lot of problems the Muslims will create for the world, until they have brought every non-Muslim under their benighted World Islamic Caliphate. Even that, greater chaos will envelope the Islamised world as we see it now in almost every Muslim country.

So we must all pray for President Bush and support him in the very difficult War on Terror. This must be fought until victory. Please don't judge him like you are playing computer games. See it in the perspective of the Great Cosmic War. So defeat and withdrawal cannot be an option, Brother Jake.
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#16 Nov 17, 2007
I'm praying for the best out come for all good, honest and kind people from all races and religions.

Peace and long life to you Oh.
Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#17 Nov 18, 2007
Jake wrote:
I'm praying for the best out come for all good, honest and kind people from all races and religions.
Peace and long life to you Oh.
May God richly bless you and your loved ones, Brother Jake!!
Louise in Seattle

Bothell, WA

#18 Nov 18, 2007
I'm not in the same league as you guys, however I know this; I'm an Army Brat, Army Wife and Army employee. I love my country and the Army. I was there during Nam. Ike kept it down, JFK kept it down. Another Texan didn't. He sent the troops. I sent them a good husband and father over there. I got back a drunken druggy. I had to raise my kids alone. I saw them suffer because of that war. Folks there is more at stake here than Politics. I see both my grandkids on Meds cause their Dad is in this War!! And by the way---He is there and says all the guys know it's useless. So before you comment on him----Are you there? Are you facing bullets? Are you watching your family suffer? Or are you sitting in your armchair expressing your feelings?????
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#19 Nov 19, 2007
Louise-

It's not about being in anyone's league, this is a forum to speak your mind. I agree with you about the real costs of this war being buried under politics.

My father was career Army and was a WWII, Korea and Vietnam veteran. It was not a fun or easy childhood. There is a huge hole in every kid's (and wife or husband) life when dad or mom are "at war over in ______".

I just hope the Iraqi politicians get their act together asap so our troops can get back to their families and kids. Unfortunately, we are somewhat at the mercy of Iraqi politicians since it is clear we aren't going anywhere soon without them capitalizing on the "surge" to form a semblance of a stable central government that can police its own lands and borders as well as care for its people.

I can only pray that the Iraqis will do better than the Vietnamese did with the opportunity we gave them.

Hang on and don't give up, better times will come!

Oh Tham Eng

Singapore, Singapore

#20 Nov 19, 2007
Agree, Brother Jake. So proud of Louise's husband and your parents. Many in the world, like our Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew (father of our PM Lee and Father of modern Singapore) are very thankful for the tremendous sacrifices of the kind Americans. Mr Lee told us America is a benign superpower. We agree---and somewhat benevolent too. Never in the history of mankind was there such a benign superpower! May God continue to bless the Americans!

Sad to tell you the squabbling Iraqi leaders would be of not much help in the near term. And there is neighbouring Iran which loves to create problems to distract their own people from the corruption and the ineptitude of their mullahs in governing Iran.

Essentially their religion and religious differences are the main reasons why---because Islam is a dysfunctional faith in search of a religion. In the Prayer of Prophet Suleiman, Islam has found true religion!

That's why I have to say frankly that Americans must not solely depend on President Bush and America's military might to defend them and give them security. The sure way to finding security and protection is for all Americans to mobilise themselves and rally all their disbelieving Muslims to say this miracle Prayer. It can bring about a great moral and spiritual transformation in the God-blessed land of America. It is the best way to prevent American Muslims from becoming self-radicalised terrorists too. And Iraqis need it to rebulit and revitalise their country.

Prophet Suleiman (otherwise known as King Solomon in the Holy Bible) had prayed: "Inspire me, Lord, to be thankful to Thee for Thy favours to me and my parents to do good deeds which will please Thee. Admit me to be among Thy righteous." An-Naml 27:19. "For the noblest in Allah's sight is he who is the most righteous." Al-Hujurut 49:13. Good nite!

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