Is Health Care Compromise a Lost Cause?

Is Health Care Compromise a Lost Cause?

There are 55 comments on the CBS News story from Aug 19, 2009, titled Is Health Care Compromise a Lost Cause?. In it, CBS News reports that:

Supporters of health care reform rally in Phoenix, Ariz. Some Democrats are pushing a "go it alone" apporach to reform, saying that a bipartisan bill is impossible because Republicans won't support any bill.

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“Read the 5,000 year leap”

Since: Apr 09

United States

#43 Aug 22, 2009
The answer to the cost of health care can be reduced between 20 to 50% of the original quoted price by the HC if tort reform was overhauled.The DNC has taken over $560K and the GOP has taken in $9K from donations from trial lawyers.Most of the Congress(includes Senate) are lawyers so they aren't going to write this into the current bill.So the answer my friend is blowing in the wind on fixing tort reform first.If Obama wants HC reform passed then this current bill needs to be tossed in the trash can and write a new bill that will first address tort(malpractice insurance) reform where the lawyer's take is no more than 10-15% of the injured party's claim.

Back to what I was talking about on the progressivism of the country the government is moving towards totalitarianism.We need less government intervention in our lives.Smaller government and more individual freedom.

Now on the national deficit for the long term it was stated this friday late in the day it went to $9 trillion for the next 9-10 years.And that's without healthcare.If it gets thrown on then the long term will increase another 2 trillion on top of the 9 trillion.At least another 2 generations will have to pay...
We The People

Clementon, NJ

#44 Aug 22, 2009
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>I agree completely.
It is mind boggling that the UK has had national healthcare with a private option that few choose since the 1940's while we are still fighting to recieve any care for so many. But then they have had a female prime minister years ago and we have yet to have a female in the white house, each one that tried to run got run over instead. In some ways we seem very far behind in our thinking and lobby influences are running our country.
Yeah, but that female prime minister was a right-wing nutcase that drove England into the dirt in the name of the Holy Profit. She was the one that whined that Pinochet was to return home to Chile to face trial. No Maggie's here, please!
screwed

Mammoth Cave, KY

#45 Aug 24, 2009
i go through pain and complete discomfort to say the least on a daily basis. I have a job, but I only make minimum wage and I have 2 kids. I need help, I've been repeatedly turned away because I have no insurance and no money. What am I suppose to do. It's ok to spend millions on older folks, to cut them open, put devices in them, or keep them alive with machines or medicine, but i can't get some simple dental procedures done. Why are our older generation taking precedent over the majority. Maybe if some people weren't making so much money off them then they wouldn't. My grandmother is 77 had had three major surguries, been resusitated once, and been hospitalized almost 10 times in less than 7 years....now that's a good costumer. Thats sick. What are we cats? How many times does a person need to come to the end of their life. Many good people people without the money and with kids, are getting sicker and having more and more trouble with all the bills. The kids may be taking care of now with medicaid but the parents are going to cost even more when we get older because we are not getting help earlier in life.
ObamaRules

Seattle, WA

#46 Aug 25, 2009
Way too many Americans have no health coverage because they cannot afford it. The Democrats and Obama must do something, and they will!
top dog

United States

#47 Aug 26, 2009
screwed wrote:
i go through pain and complete discomfort to say the least on a daily basis. I have a job, but I only make minimum wage and I have 2 kids. I need help, I've been repeatedly turned away because I have no insurance and no money. What am I suppose to do. It's ok to spend millions on older folks, to cut them open, put devices in them, or keep them alive with machines or medicine, but i can't get some simple dental procedures done. Why are our older generation taking precedent over the majority. Maybe if some people weren't making so much money off them then they wouldn't. My grandmother is 77 had had three major surguries, been resusitated once, and been hospitalized almost 10 times in less than 7 years....now that's a good costumer. Thats sick. What are we cats? How many times does a person need to come to the end of their life. Many good people people without the money and with kids, are getting sicker and having more and more trouble with all the bills. The kids may be taking care of now with medicaid but the parents are going to cost even more when we get older because we are not getting help earlier in life.
Oh poor you. Well I"ve worked and supported 3 kids all by my self. Now I"m on ss. I"ve paid for my ss check I"m getting. You are terrible. Talking about your grandma like she didn"t have a right to live. Get 2-jobs if you have too. buy your own insurance. But don"t put us older folks down for something we"ve worked for. I can not believe some one would say the things you have. Guess your grandma stoped helping you out. Thats why your mad? Think about what you said. Some day you"ll be one of us OLDER FolKS. Remember that.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#48 Aug 26, 2009
top dog wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh poor you. Well I"ve worked and supported 3 kids all by my self. Now I"m on ss. I"ve paid for my ss check I"m getting. You are terrible. Talking about your grandma like she didn"t have a right to live. Get 2-jobs if you have too. buy your own insurance. But don"t put us older folks down for something we"ve worked for. I can not believe some one would say the things you have. Guess your grandma stoped helping you out. Thats why your mad? Think about what you said. Some day you"ll be one of us OLDER FolKS. Remember that.
Exellent post.

I may add when you "get rid" of older folks you get rid of eyewitnesses to history.
Chicago Joe

Evanston, IL

#49 Aug 26, 2009
screwed wrote:
i go through pain and complete discomfort to say the least on a daily basis. I have a job, but I only make minimum wage and I have 2 kids. I need help, I've been repeatedly turned away because I have no insurance and no money. What am I suppose to do. It's ok to spend millions on older folks, to cut them open, put devices in them, or keep them alive with machines or medicine, but i can't get some simple dental procedures done. Why are our older generation taking precedent over the majority. Maybe if some people weren't making so much money off them then they wouldn't. My grandmother is 77 had had three major surguries, been resusitated once, and been hospitalized almost 10 times in less than 7 years....now that's a good costumer. Thats sick. What are we cats? How many times does a person need to come to the end of their life. Many good people people without the money and with kids, are getting sicker and having more and more trouble with all the bills. The kids may be taking care of now with medicaid but the parents are going to cost even more when we get older because we are not getting help earlier in life.
You're absolutely correct. In the present system, there is NO equity in the distribution of healthcare mainly because the more involved the care is, the more expensive it is and if you have no money, you get no care. It's as simple as that. Unless of course you're a sr. citizen and you're covered under medicare, which is an excellent system for those that need it and deserve it. The issue that you're bringing up is somewhere between children and seniors are ordinary grown adults who can't afford health care and deserve it as much.
ObamaRules

Seattle, WA

#50 Aug 27, 2009
Chicago Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
You're absolutely correct. In the present system, there is NO equity in the distribution of healthcare mainly because the more involved the care is, the more expensive it is and if you have no money, you get no care. It's as simple as that. Unless of course you're a sr. citizen and you're covered under medicare, which is an excellent system for those that need it and deserve it. The issue that you're bringing up is somewhere between children and seniors are ordinary grown adults who can't afford health care and deserve it as much.
Excellent points.
culture geek

Chevy Chase, MD

#51 Aug 27, 2009
Where Is My America wrote:
No health care compromise.
No surrender.
Fine. You are irrelevant then. There is no point in negotiating with someone who is unwilling to negotiate, no point in your reasoning with somebody who is insensible to reason, no point in explaining facts to someone who does not care about facts.

QED: there is no reason to concede anything to you either.
Carol

Anchorage, AK

#52 Aug 27, 2009
Shawbuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Your right about people wanting health care reform but the way Obuma is going about it is wrong. There are many many ways to reduce heath care than what the democrats have proposed. Why does the government need to take over health care? Why can't they make your insurance premium tax deductible? That would go along way in fixing health care.

Try going to the net and getting a copy of the bill and read what it says, not what you hear on TV.
The government has already taken over health care. Did you not read the report about how much our elected officials in Washington received from
the AMA and the drug companies? There are non-profits that put out the Washington Pork Barrel report and government spending. Go one the net and find out how much each one makes, then try to get the gifts of money they get. I hope this isn't your way of fixing the health care. I do hope you have down loaded the bill and read it. We are talking a lot about seniors, poor people, and those who can't afford $562.00 a month for one person because they now have cancer, went up $268.00 two months after they came home from the hospital. The bill will stop that also. New born with a health problem is considered pre-excisting (sp?) so they can't get the insurance.
Chicago Joe

Evanston, IL

#53 Aug 27, 2009
culture geek wrote:
<quoted text>
Fine. You are irrelevant then. There is no point in negotiating with someone who is unwilling to negotiate, no point in your reasoning with somebody who is insensible to reason, no point in explaining facts to someone who does not care about facts.
QED: there is no reason to concede anything to you either.
well said.
ObamaRules

Seattle, WA

#54 Aug 28, 2009
Healthcare reform is an absolute necessity, and most of our country understands that.

Since: Jul 07

A Rational Place

#55 Aug 28, 2009
The Republican Party has turned into a bunch of piss ants with absolutely nothing to offer mankind - so they should be stepped on, pissed on, crushed or whatever it takes to get their noise turned off.

I want to become the Republican's worst nightmare where they wake up in the middle of the night only to find they pissed all over themselves in their sleep.

Godspeed on The Public Option!!!

Since: Jul 07

A Rational Place

#56 Aug 28, 2009
Greenmeanie wrote:
The answer to the cost of health care can be reduced between 20 to 50% of the original quoted price by the HC if tort reform was overhauled.The DNC has taken over $560K and the GOP has taken in $9K from donations from trial lawyers.Most of the Congress(includes Senate) are lawyers so they aren't going to write this into the current bill.So the answer my friend is blowing in the wind on fixing tort reform first.If Obama wants HC reform passed then this current bill needs to be tossed in the trash can and write a new bill that will first address tort(malpractice insurance) reform where the lawyer's take is no more than 10-15% of the injured party's claim.
Back to what I was talking about on the progressivism of the country the government is moving towards totalitarianism.We need less government intervention in our lives.Smaller government and more individual freedom.
Now on the national deficit for the long term it was stated this friday late in the day it went to $9 trillion for the next 9-10 years.And that's without healthcare.If it gets thrown on then the long term will increase another 2 trillion on top of the 9 trillion.At least another 2 generations will have to pay...
No sir... who are dead wrong - it's 2-3% if you bothered to find the facts. Less money than the many who pay for mistresses on the side.

The Gipper would say... there you go again!
ObamaRules

Seattle, WA

#57 Aug 28, 2009
bassackward wrote:
The Republican Party has turned into a bunch of piss ants with absolutely nothing to offer mankind - so they should be stepped on, pissed on, crushed or whatever it takes to get their noise turned off.
I want to become the Republican's worst nightmare where they wake up in the middle of the night only to find they pissed all over themselves in their sleep.
Godspeed on The Public Option!!!
LOL!

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