Sen. Ted Stevens, longest-serving GOP...

Sen. Ted Stevens, longest-serving GOP senator, indicted

There are 17 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Jul 29, 2008, titled Sen. Ted Stevens, longest-serving GOP senator, indicted. In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

Sen. Ted Stevens, the nation's longest-serving Republican senator and a major figure in Alaska politics since before statehood, was indicted Tuesday on seven counts of failing to disclose hundreds of thousands ...

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Robert J G Jackson Sr

United States

#1 Jul 29, 2008
I have known Senator Stevens for many years. I always found him to be honest. However, if he is guilty as charged, I will be the first one to say that he should be sentenced accordingly. Some politicians seem to learn to ignore the differences between the peoples money, and their own personal funds. They sometimes seem to lose sight of the ethics required of a government official. I guess that kind of governmental power can do that to a person.

What disturbs me is that there are far to few charges being brought against government officials who are quite obviously in violation of ethics requirements, and even criminal offenses. Congressman Jefferson of Louisianna comes to mind, with the $90,000 in cash in his refrigerator. Unfortunately, there are many such examples, and I don't see any actions being taken against Democratic officials who have knowingly commited offenses, including Senator Dodd with his home loan on "VIP" conditions, while he is Chair of the Banking Committee. I doubt very much that he declared that information on his ethics declaration, the very same offense with which Senator Stevens is accused.

On a more local note, there is all the manuvering of Congresswoman Richardson, and her obvious "special" treatment by Washington Mutual, writing a loan for her while her credit report certainly would have showed all the previous foreclosure notices, then rescinding the auction sale of the Sacramento house, and the bank suffering several hundred thousand dollars of accumulated losses over her house loan between the foreclosure sale, and what the bank had to pay York, the purchaser, to get the sale cancelled.

Where is the serious action on ethics violations promised by Speaker Pelosi? It seems that approach only applies to Republican officials. When it comes to ethics and criminal violations by officials, I am very non partisan. I want them all prosecuted, sentenced, and jailed when guilty.
onemansopinion

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Jul 29, 2008
Another born again right winger down the tubes...what makes them think they are above the law?
Mccain will be blown away in November!
Vote with your mind, not your heart.
mrguapo

Lexington, KY

#5 Jul 29, 2008
The money received by him sounds like a bribe. That it comes from the oil companies is of great concern. That is more than an ethics violation. It is against the law. I agree that Jefferson likely broke the law. How else did he get this $ and why was it in the freezer? But, until the feds get more info, he can't be prosecuted. Having $ in the freezer is not a violation of the law. Dodd and Richardson may have received special attention. However, at this point we don't know how it was given and if they even knew about it. If they did, it doesn't sound like they broke the law thought the financil institutions may have. With the politicalization of the Justice Department under Bush, I can't imagine how anyone can say with a straight face that Democrats have been exempt from investigation.
Mark Winshel

Walnut Creek, CA

#6 Jul 29, 2008
1. Since at least ninety five percent of politicians will pull just about anything they think they can get away with, and since at least ninety eight percent of lawyers will also pull just about anything they think can get away with, and since Stevens is both a politician and a lawyer (in fact, he is a graduate of Harvard Law School), Ted Stevens' lawyers can argue, and based on standard lawyers' "logic," that "proves" he is a very honorable person of great integrity, and therefore definitely not guilty of the charges made against him.

2. It's too bad for Stevens that: one, he is not a close friend of Nancy Pelosi; and two, that Pelosi is not also in charge of the particular prosecutor's office responsible for handling these present allegations involving Stevens - since Pelosi "knew" that it was absurd to even consider investigating her friend Gary Condit concerning the death of Chandra Levy, since Pelosi said she "knew" that Condit was too honest and ethical to have possibly been involved in any way in the death of Levy.

3. Concerning the allegations against Stevens, while I am in no way condoning what he is accused of, however what he is accused of is such standard procedure, in other words members of Congress and other powerful politicians accepting lightly disguised bribes, that therefore I wonder why they chose to prosecute him, and as opposed to plenty of others.
mrguapo

Lexington, KY

#7 Jul 30, 2008
Mark Winshel wrote:
1. Since at least ninety five percent of politicians will pull just about anything they think they can get away with, and since at least ninety eight percent of lawyers will also pull just about anything they think can get away with, and since Stevens is both a politician and a lawyer (in fact, he is a graduate of Harvard Law School), Ted Stevens' lawyers can argue, and based on standard lawyers' "logic," that "proves" he is a very honorable person of great integrity, and therefore definitely not guilty of the charges made against him.
2. It's too bad for Stevens that: one, he is not a close friend of Nancy Pelosi; and two, that Pelosi is not also in charge of the particular prosecutor's office responsible for handling these present allegations involving Stevens - since Pelosi "knew" that it was absurd to even consider investigating her friend Gary Condit concerning the death of Chandra Levy, since Pelosi said she "knew" that Condit was too honest and ethical to have possibly been involved in any way in the death of Levy.
3. Concerning the allegations against Stevens, while I am in no way condoning what he is accused of, however what he is accused of is such standard procedure, in other words members of Congress and other powerful politicians accepting lightly disguised bribes, that therefore I wonder why they chose to prosecute him, and as opposed to plenty of others.
I agree. We should prosecute all the corrupt republicans.
Prosecute law breakers

Manhattan Beach, CA

#8 Jul 30, 2008
mrguapo wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. We should prosecute all the corrupt republicans.
Once again, "mrguapo's" bias is showing. All corrupt politicians should be prosecuted. Anyone who violates our country's laws should be prosecuted.
In fact, there should be an external audit of the Kentucky Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (KCIRR), the organization where Loren Drzal aka "mrguapo" is an illegal immigrant activist for KCIRR.
The Kentucky Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (KCIRR) is a grassroots educational and advocacy organization composed of individuals and organizations from around the state of Kentucky, and is dediated to promoting and defending the rights of all immigrants and refugees at the local, state, and federal levels. We are individuals, community-based organizations, and leaders from diverse communities in Kentucky, working together for a just and humane society that recognizes the rights and contributions of immigrants and refugees.
http://www.kcirr.org/content/view/116/65/lang...
mrguapo

Lexington, KY

#9 Jul 30, 2008
Haha! Working for a just and humane society. I can see how someone like you would be upset by that.
dodger

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jul 30, 2008
Prosecute law breakers wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, "mrguapo's" bias is showing. All corrupt politicians should be prosecuted. Anyone who violates our country's laws should be prosecuted.
In fact, there should be an external audit of the Kentucky Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (KCIRR), the organization where Loren Drzal aka "mrguapo" is an illegal immigrant activist for KCIRR.
The Kentucky Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (KCIRR) is a grassroots educational and advocacy organization composed of individuals and organizations from around the state of Kentucky, and is dediated to promoting and defending the rights of all immigrants and refugees at the local, state, and federal levels. We are individuals, community-based organizations, and leaders from diverse communities in Kentucky, working together for a just and humane society that recognizes the rights and contributions of immigrants and refugees.
http://www.kcirr.org/content/view/116/65/lang...
wow...the description of the organization (KCIRR) that you just presented would lead anyone to automatically think about an "external audit". you are ridiculous.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#12 Aug 4, 2008
The only "saving grace" here, at least as far as the allegations are concerned, is that the investigation revealed no quid pro quo. In other words the allegation is that he got something for nothing. Essentially, he has been charged with receiving "gifts" without reporting their value as required. There's a lot deeper corruption in D.C. than that, I'm sure.
mrguapo

Lexington, KY

#13 Aug 5, 2008
Far Away wrote:
The only "saving grace" here, at least as far as the allegations are concerned, is that the investigation revealed no quid pro quo. In other words the allegation is that he got something for nothing. Essentially, he has been charged with receiving "gifts" without reporting their value as required. There's a lot deeper corruption in D.C. than that, I'm sure.
Are you excusing his corruption? Why do you think they gave him all that money? He voted on contracts that directly benefitted the oil contractor company who bribed him. One of his defenses is a laugh. He didn't pay them because they never gave him a bill. Haha!
Lil Bush

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Aug 5, 2008
I was a pilot back in the late 70s up their when he was in the plane crash which killed his wife. Was a sad time.

He's had a good career. too bad to go out like this. He is quite a character and looks like he finally pissed off the wrong guy
bjr from Texas

United States

#16 Aug 5, 2008
Right, he was the big championed Republican Senator? And how long, exactly was his snout in the hog trough? He was a laughingstock in the mainland USA. His name was a joke. Yes, I undersand how you may have loved him, but he was so dirty that he was dark brown with mud. I hope we never, ever have such a dirty Senator as he was. And, I even admit that we have some pretty dirty stuff from our state. But it is nothing to compare with yours.
mrguapo

Nicholasville, KY

#17 Aug 6, 2008
bjr from Texas wrote:
Right, he was the big championed Republican Senator? And how long, exactly was his snout in the hog trough? He was a laughingstock in the mainland USA. His name was a joke. Yes, I undersand how you may have loved him, but he was so dirty that he was dark brown with mud. I hope we never, ever have such a dirty Senator as he was. And, I even admit that we have some pretty dirty stuff from our state. But it is nothing to compare with yours.
Right on! He was also the champion of earmarks. Remeber the bridge to nowhere? That was one of his pet projects.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#18 Aug 6, 2008
mrguapo wrote:
<quoted text>Are you excusing his corruption? Why do you think they gave him all that money? He voted on contracts that directly benefitted the oil contractor company who bribed him. One of his defenses is a laugh. He didn't pay them because they never gave him a bill. Haha!
Lighten up there, Kentucky. Did I say I excused him. I just said it could be far worse, meaning there weren't any bribery charges filed.
the shadow

Southampton, PA

#19 Aug 7, 2008
What ever happened to the politician from DC who had $100,000.00 in his freezer? Was he let go by the FBI because he was a Democrat? Did the horses ass Nancy Pelosi get him off the hook?
mrguapo

Lexington, KY

#20 Aug 7, 2008
the shadow wrote:
What ever happened to the politician from DC who had $100,000.00 in his freezer? Was he let go by the FBI because he was a Democrat? Did the horses **** Nancy Pelosi get him off the hook?
Get your facts straight. He was from Louisiana. His aid was convicted for soliciting bribes. He hasn't been charged as they can't get enough evidence. He sure sounds guity, however. But, your accusation against Nancy Polosi indicates that you know little about the legal system. Or perhaps, you spend too much time listening to talk radio.
M Reynoso

Whittier, CA

#21 Aug 7, 2008
mrguapo wrote:
<quoted text>Get your facts straight. He was from Louisiana. His aid was convicted for soliciting bribes. He hasn't been charged as they can't get enough evidence. He sure sounds guity, however. But, your accusation against Nancy Polosi indicates that you know little about the legal system. Or perhaps, you spend too much time listening to talk radio.
HAHAHA!

Speaking of talk radio, at least he didn't pronounce her name Polousey like some other power tool on this forum who I shall remain nameless out of respect.

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