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Did Americans reject clean energy by voting Republican?

There are 68 comments on the www.csmonitor.com story from Nov 4, 2010, titled Did Americans reject clean energy by voting Republican?. In it, www.csmonitor.com reports that:

US environmentalists concede disappointment at the GOP's surge, but say the defeat of California Prop. 23 shows voters were motivated by the economy and not a rejection of clean energy.

US environmentalists, assessing the Republican tsunami that washed over the country, chose Wednesday to tout a key Election Day victory in beating back California's Proposition 23, a ballot initiative that would have reversed clean-energy requirements statewide – and led quite possibly to similar initiatives in other states.

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TedsLiver

San Francisco, CA

#1 Nov 4, 2010
Clean energy no, global warming yes!
TedslLiver

San Francisco, CA

#2 Nov 4, 2010
Clean energy was not rejected even though all clean energy jobs are in China. Nobody believes in Al Gores global warming myth? Except the stupid people in California.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#3 Nov 4, 2010
TedslLiver wrote:
Clean energy was not rejected even though all clean energy jobs are in China. Nobody believes in Al Gores global warming myth? Except the stupid people in California.
You can deny science as myth, or witchcraft; but reality will continue outside of your little mind.

Since: Dec 08

Kerrville, TX

#4 Nov 4, 2010
Conservatives have no problem with clean energy and/or renewable energy. We do have a problem with a government mandated and taxpayer funded energy agenda though. Especially unproven THEORIES of man made global warming leading to such things as the Cap and Tax bill. It wouldn't bother me to see the entire Dept of Energy abolished.
TedslLiver

San Francisco, CA

#5 Nov 4, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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You can deny science as myth, or witchcraft; but reality will continue outside of your little mind.
Let me know when that science exists. Nothing has been brought forth so far except fat Al's power point slide ware.
Robert

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#6 Nov 4, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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You can deny science as myth, or witchcraft; but reality will continue outside of your little mind.
Science???? If you want to talk about that 90% of the climate change we are due to receive is already in the pipeline and you can't stop it. Our efforts to change the climate through clean energy is a joke and is akin to an ant trying to change the course of a rolling bowling ball. You think you can change the climate with legislation, what a joke your bad as Obama.
McCarthy was right

United States

#8 Nov 4, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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You can deny science as myth, or witchcraft; but reality will continue outside of your little mind.
More than myth or witchcraft, "manmade global warming" is nothing more than a tenet of the religion of Big Government Socialism.

Since: Jan 07

Pittston, PA

#9 Nov 4, 2010
"Robert"
Science???? If you want to talk about that 90% of the climate change we are due to receive is already in the pipeline and you can't stop it. Our efforts to change the climate through clean energy is a joke and is akin to an ant trying to change the course of a rolling bowling ball. You think you can change the climate with legislation, what a joke your bad as Obama.

The idea that climate has remained static for thousands of years and now suddenly, we are faced with change of biblical proportions is nonsense. The earth has survived two Ice Ages, interspersed ith periods of tropical warmth. From the late Middle Ages to the mid-20th century, there was a period called the "Little Ice Age" in which temperatures were lower than what is seen by scientists as "normal." It is for this reason that the Irish. British and Scots turned from wine as a staple and began making beer and uisquebagh.(whiskey) The Russians used their potato crop to produce vodka.(There are many examples but I figured this would interest some posters.)

Trees found in bogs in various parts of Ireland have been carbon-dated and their rings examined. They show that growth slowed in various periods beginning in the pre-Christian era to the Renaissance. Speculation exists about what caused these periods of warmth and cold, including volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world as well as the the dust from exploding comets and asteroids. Certainly, there is abundant proof that global warming and cooling has been a recurring phenomenom in the long history of Mother Earth.

Concerns for the environment should focus on technology that will limit emissions on an incremental basis. No one wants to pollute the earth any more than it already has been. However a wholesale, punitive approach that will "necessarily raise energy costs" and "bankrupt the coal companies" is not the answer. The balance here is how to preserve and create jobs while aiming for a cleaner way to produce energy. There are financial advantages to this, as long as we don't ship the technology to China, denying our own people work, and then importing the products and charging exorbitant prices for them.

The goal here is to protect our environment, but it must be balanced with job creation and cannot be done in a year or even a decade. And the government needs to take its long nose out of it. Americans are great innovators. Let them innovate.
crayz ox3thongee

Phoenix, AZ

#10 Nov 4, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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You can deny science as myth, or witchcraft; but reality will continue outside of your little mind.
clean what?:-0000000h, America only see Mr. Clean on TVad only. U can them E=MC2 Obamath and see how the reply2U :-000
Bend over Mr_Bill

Woodstock, GA

#11 Nov 4, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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You can deny science as myth, or witchcraft; but reality will continue outside of your little mind.
There is no one on the planet who matches the experience of living in denial that you have!
You're a Republican denier, a Tea Party denier, a conservative denier, and an idiot!
crayz ox3thongee

Phoenix, AZ

#12 Nov 4, 2010
McCarthy was right wrote:
<quoted text>
More than myth or witchcraft, "manmade global warming" is nothing more than a tenet of the religion of Big Government Socialism.
so do you think the "monkee glowball warmer"?:-0h, do U know what is the different Man vs. Monkee in don't asssk don't tel policy?:)
crayz ox3thongee

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Nov 4, 2010
TedslLiver wrote:
Clean energy was not rejected even though all clean energy jobs are in China. Nobody believes in Al Gores global warming myth? Except the stupid people in California.
do U like Arnal gov. deliveries the Beer speech?:-00h, i kno U love its?:-00000
Loose Cannon

Washington, DC

#15 Nov 4, 2010
One volcanic eruption puts more carbon dioxide and pollutes the environment more than man could do in thousands of years. The green movement is a con for liberal socialist to get rich. Like Al Gore, soros, and obama! The govt wants to put billions of tax payer money into these businesses for short term get rich sceems by democrats. They cryed about big oil and Republicans but this is no different except obama is involved with both. Him and soros are getting rich off brazilian off shore drilling. Obama and Mr. Bill are liars to promote their own interest at all of our expense!
Lance Winslow

United States

#16 Nov 4, 2010
Global warming deniers echo evolution deniers who echoed spherical earth deniers.

Since: Dec 08

Kerrville, TX

#17 Nov 4, 2010
No Child Left wrote:
"Robert"
Science???? If you want to talk about that 90% of the climate change we are due to receive is already in the pipeline and you can't stop it. Our efforts to change the climate through clean energy is a joke and is akin to an ant trying to change the course of a rolling bowling ball. You think you can change the climate with legislation, what a joke your bad as Obama.
The idea that climate has remained static for thousands of years and now suddenly, we are faced with change of biblical proportions is nonsense. The earth has survived two Ice Ages, interspersed ith periods of tropical warmth. From the late Middle Ages to the mid-20th century, there was a period called the "Little Ice Age" in which temperatures were lower than what is seen by scientists as "normal." It is for this reason that the Irish. British and Scots turned from wine as a staple and began making beer and uisquebagh.(whiskey) The Russians used their potato crop to produce vodka.(There are many examples but I figured this would interest some posters.)
Trees found in bogs in various parts of Ireland have been carbon-dated and their rings examined. They show that growth slowed in various periods beginning in the pre-Christian era to the Renaissance. Speculation exists about what caused these periods of warmth and cold, including volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world as well as the the dust from exploding comets and asteroids. Certainly, there is abundant proof that global warming and cooling has been a recurring phenomenom in the long history of Mother Earth.
Concerns for the environment should focus on technology that will limit emissions on an incremental basis. No one wants to pollute the earth any more than it already has been. However a wholesale, punitive approach that will "necessarily raise energy costs" and "bankrupt the coal companies" is not the answer. The balance here is how to preserve and create jobs while aiming for a cleaner way to produce energy. There are financial advantages to this, as long as we don't ship the technology to China, denying our own people work, and then importing the products and charging exorbitant prices for them.
The goal here is to protect our environment, but it must be balanced with job creation and cannot be done in a year or even a decade. And the government needs to take its long nose out of it. Americans are great innovators. Let them innovate.
And to add to your excellent post let us not forget the recent discoveries in Greenland where scientists have found irrefutable evidence of farming 16,000 years ago. I could go on and on about what all has been discovered there but suffice it to say that Greenland wasn't named Greenland on a whim.

These man made global warming idiots are just that. Idiots.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#18 Nov 4, 2010
McCarthy was right wrote:
<quoted text>
More than myth or witchcraft, "manmade global warming" is nothing more than a tenet of the religion of Big Government Socialism.
A real nut here. Go back to the woodwork, you sick being.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#19 Nov 4, 2010
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
Science???? If you want to talk about that 90% of the climate change we are due to receive is already in the pipeline and you can't stop it. Our efforts to change the climate through clean energy is a joke and is akin to an ant trying to change the course of a rolling bowling ball. You think you can change the climate with legislation, what a joke your bad as Obama.
No, just 90% of the change that will occur in the next 50 years is already in the pipeline.

I guess you don't care about future Americans. I do.

Our efforts now will prevent out grandchildren, and great-grandchildren from living in a kind of limited hell.

But you don't care. You just want a fast car; Cheap lights left on all night.
You have some vision!
LongBeacher

Fountain Valley, CA

#21 Nov 4, 2010
sailorman2 wrote:
<quoted text>And to add to your excellent post let us not forget the recent discoveries in Greenland where scientists have found irrefutable evidence of farming 16,000 years ago. I could go on and on about what all has been discovered there but suffice it to say that Greenland wasn't named Greenland on a whim.
These man made global warming idiots are just that. Idiots.
My definition of an idiot is someone who believes human activity plays no part in environmental degradation, inluding changing climates.
bronck burger

Fair Lawn, NJ

#22 Nov 4, 2010
all you folks that think goreble warming is real stop using any thing power by any fuel and go live in the dark ,eat cold food and only take cold showers. and lets see how long you all can keep on living that way. i think not to long. time to put another log in the fire place. and time to take a nice long hot shower.
Robert

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#23 Nov 4, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
No, just 90% of the change that will occur in the next 50 years is already in the pipeline.
I guess you don't care about future Americans. I do.
Our efforts now will prevent out grandchildren, and great-grandchildren from living in a kind of limited hell.
But you don't care. You just want a fast car; Cheap lights left on all night.
You have some vision!
No I want a big car, an suv. You liberals think in a static world, if you got your cap and trade it would not effect the atmosphere anyway. You would run the cost of of production causing more jobs to go overseas where there they don't have the environmental rules we do. Unless you can get the rest of the world do go along with it your just pissing in the wind and killing our economy in the process.

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