Akaka Bill's legality debated - Hawai...

Akaka Bill's legality debated - Hawaii News

There are 104 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jun 12, 2009, titled Akaka Bill's legality debated - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

WASHINGTON>> Granting native Hawaiians the chance to form their own government, like those established by many of the nation's 562 American Indian tribes and Alaska natives, would break new ground and eventually be ruled unconstitutional, critics of the proposal said yesterday.

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enufalready

Wailuku, HI

#1 Jun 12, 2009
And one of the most difficult matters will be that of identifying "the native Hawaiians." It would be most helpful if there could be some discussion of this in a manner that does not rend the community of people who are interested.
Tribal Nation

Kennesaw, GA

#2 Jun 12, 2009
The United States Federal Government is collapsing. Soon all those criminal databases will no longer be effective. Soon land ownership databases will no longer be effective. Soon the U.S. Dollar will be replaced. Soon many people will walk away from the U.S. Federal Government and all of its jurisdictions. Soon the Akaka Bill will no longer be needed.
Pops

Honolulu, HI

#3 Jun 12, 2009
Hawaiians are not capable of running their own government

“Hawai'i loa kulike 'oukou.”

Since: Feb 09

London, Na mokupuni Beretannia

#4 Jun 12, 2009
"Will we let ourselves be destroyed in our turn without a struggle, give up our homes, our country bequeathed to us by the Great Spirit, the graves of our dead and everything that is dear and sacred to us? I know that you will cry with me, Never! Never!" -Tecumseh of the Shawnees. From Hanamauulu to Naalehu, from Pukalani to Waialua the ancestors softly call the Hawaiian Nationals to listen to their 'aina. The past rises before me and I recall the Kahuna no'eau on the beach i Ko Hawai'i Pae 'Aina he knows the sacred lima 'ula of 1690 o na mokupuni Beretania has been placed on the pohaku, for the life of the Sovereign 'aina is perpetuated in righteousness..... it is the prophecy.

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Time to right a wrong

Honolulu, HI

#5 Jun 12, 2009
The analogy to native Americans and native Alaskans is correct.

It's time to right a wrong.
syzygy

Kapolei, HI

#6 Jun 12, 2009
"We've never viewed this as a race-based issue," said Rep. Mazie Hirono..."

Just because you have ignored the obvious does not make it so.
bumbuchaMusubi

Sacramento, CA

#7 Jun 12, 2009
The Akaka Bill is as legal as America wants it to be! Any great country can seek to right a wrong that was done to it's own. Native Hawaiians have nothing to apologize for...they have shed more than their share of blood and lives for the United States and remain good citizens. However, the majority of the Native Hawaiians continue to seek a legal remedy from the United States; by Congressional Resolution, American has already stated in it's historical record that a grave justice was committed. Today, the Akaka Bill moves in that long overdue but very just direction. Stand up tall and show your support! AlohaandOouttt...

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What the Heaven

Honolulu, HI

#8 Jun 12, 2009
What do we need a kaka bill for? Hawaiians do not have the capacity to run anything except into the ground. Too much inbreeding has caused hawaiians to be inferior beings. That is why they need special schools, special agencies, and special needs in order to survive in the real world. Look at the mess they've made at OHA, Bishop Estates, and Hawaiian homes. If they have their own government it will be comparable to a third world country.
what if

Kula, HI

#9 Jun 12, 2009
What if such a governing entity was formed. Would we be able to dump OHA and give the 20% to the new entity. It seems like we could reach a global settlement. But OHA has to go, not negotiable.
KIng Dodo

Honolulu, HI

#10 Jun 12, 2009
Does this mean that there will be no more Kings and Queens wannabees? Hawaiians have more Kings and Queens than a deck of card.

What will happen to upstanding citizens like lolo bolo, his highness king akahi nutty, and her lowness wahine looney?
Waimea Cowboy

Honokaa, HI

#11 Jun 12, 2009
This is the legislation that the people of Hawaii have never been allowed to vote on. It is quite obviously a racist initiative, since membership in the fake tribe is based on race. It is doubly pathetic, since Hawaiians are not a tribe or a race. Hawaiians are Polynesians who lived on these Islands for 1000 years before Europeans arrived. Nothing else is verifiable at all. The fact that the Democrat party is pushing this is such a great, great embarrasment!

Auwe!
Bill Smith

Mililani, HI

#12 Jun 12, 2009
Akaka is a racist, the Akaka bill is racist. God created us all equal. Akaka is putting one group of people against another group. We as Americans do not need this. Akaka, stop this madness, and do something useful. Recently Akaka was voted the worst Senator in the United States. He should be voted out of office !!!
What the Heaven

Honolulu, HI

#13 Jun 12, 2009
Why do hawaiians need their own government? Are they going to run it like OHA, Bishop Estates, and Hawaiian Homes? Can you imagine all the microdots lining up for their freebies. By the time they get their EBT cards, they all going lose weight.
No Debate

Kaneohe, HI

#14 Jun 12, 2009
There is no serious debate, just a charade by Democrats and traitor Republicans, like Hawaiian Homes Chair Micah Kane.

1/64th part, and a "Native Hawaiian?"

Kane advocates transferring out HHCA and 5(f) lands and giving it to a fake Indian tribe controlled by over 400,000 people claiming to be "Hawaiian" but whom are in fact mostly asian and haole.

Kane is either stupid or was lying when he testified at the hearing that the HHCA was passed in 1920 by Congress "to redress the wrongs of the US."

Wrong, Kane, you moron.

The HHCA was passed by the US to treat a discrete group of heirs of native tenants cheated out of their one-third share by the corrupt kingdom since the Mahele of 1848, and the catastrophic effects of such dispossession. The HHCA is narrowly tailored to vindicate the compelling governmental interest to "rehabilitate" this narrow class and prevent their extinction.

It was embarrassing to watch Kane patting himself on the back about all his accomplishments as Hawaiian Homes Chair but BETRAYING THE BENEFICIARIES.

Only fools buy into the "we need this bill" and panic, like Kane, showing they really don't have the qualities to lead.

Running for Governor, huh?

F. U. Kane.
Definition

Kaneohe, HI

#17 Jun 12, 2009
enufalready wrote:
And one of the most difficult matters will be that of identifying "the native Hawaiians." It would be most helpful if there could be some discussion of this in a manner that does not rend the community of people who are interested.
Your question is answered and confusion cleared up for you right here.

The lands the Akaka bill wants to tranfer to this bogus tribe is the Hawaiian Home Lands and 5(f) lands.

The Hawaiian Home Lands is limited to "native Hawaiians as defined in the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act, 1920."

The native Hawaiians therein are defined as "not less than one-half" or 50% PLUS up to 100%.

That definition is also the ONLY definition of the beneficiaries of one of five shares in the Admission Act, Section 5(f) trust lands too.

There you have it. Hope that clears up your confusion.
Microdot Hawaiians

Kaneohe, HI

#18 Jun 12, 2009
What the Heaven wrote:
Why do hawaiians need their own government? Are they going to run it like OHA, Bishop Estates, and Hawaiian Homes? Can you imagine all the microdots lining up for their freebies. By the time they get their EBT cards, they all going lose weight.
Microdot Hawaiian.

That's a good description of the bogus tribes "membership" that Hirono, Abercrombie, Inouye, Akaka, and traitor Kane want.

Here are some other terms you may want to consider:

1) Watered Down Hawaiian.

2) Diluted Hawaiian.

3) Thin-Blood Hawaiian.

4) Mini-Maole.

5) Nose-Bleed Hawaiian (punch in nose, all Hawaiian blood runs out).

6) Flea-Bite Hawaiian.

7) Paint-Thinner Hawaiian.

8) Finger Nail Hawaiian.

9) Micro Hawaiian.

Your contribution, however, of "Microdot Hawaiian," is worthy of inclusion, though there is some question as to whether such term should be a subset of Micro Hawaiian or stand on its own.

That question is satisfied and from here forward, let all who oppose the Akaka bill and its bogus tribe be at Liberty to use the term "Microdot Hawaiian" to affix and ascribe to those who pretend to be native Hawaiian, but are, in fact, everything else BUT native Hawaiian.

"The Life of the Freeloader is Perpetrated by OHA"
ibsimple

Honolulu, HI

#20 Jun 12, 2009
I see anti-Hawaiian posters are in full force.
ANTIE PILAU

Antioch, CA

#21 Jun 12, 2009
Bill Smith wrote:
Akaka is a racist, the Akaka bill is racist. God created us all equal. Akaka is putting one group of people against another group. We as Americans do not need this. Akaka, stop this madness, and do something useful. Recently Akaka was voted the worst Senator in the United States. He should be voted out of office !!!
Think before you call some one racist. it might hit you in the face and you say good created us all equal. now who the racist
Hawaiian Citizen

Honolulu, HI

#22 Jun 12, 2009
If the native Hawaiians want their land back, they can always apply at anytime for an individual 65-year lease from the State Department of Land and Natural Resources (DLNR) instead of waiting 20+ years for a new Hawaiian government to transfer lands from the public trust.
Hawaiian Warrior

San Diego, CA

#23 Jun 12, 2009
ibsimple wrote:
I see anti-Hawaiian posters are in full force.
Yes, racist human parasites that belittle Hawaiians and other non-whites, yet try to portray themselves as superior to others, whom they continue to prostitute. Are these humans any better than a virus that lives off its host and finally kills it?

I think not, because at least one can have some respect for a virus, it does NOT have the capacity or the free will to determine right from wrong as in the case of these human parasites.

True, the American Indians suffered a great deal and got the establish their "native rights". But one has to legally define, whether they have really establish a soverign status BEFORE this "native status" was awarded?

Where they ever recognized by the leading nations at that time? How about a national flag, currency, official newspaper, documents, national athem and more? None of these American "native" Indians have ever developed these "requirement" for a truely recognized nation among nations, yet the Hawaiians have....but is not afforded this status?

Something is very wrong with this picture, or the lawyers who "represent" the Hawaiians are purely incompetent at the least!

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