Lingle fights Akaka Bill changes - Ha...

Lingle fights Akaka Bill changes - Hawaii News

There are 59 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Dec 16, 2009, titled Lingle fights Akaka Bill changes - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Gov. Linda Lingle strongly opposes proposed changes to legislation in Congress that would grant federal recognition to native Hawaiians, state Attorney General Mark Bennett said yesterday.

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Kneel Again

Silver Spring, MD

#46 Dec 16, 2009
I doubt that Abercrumbie read the Akaka Bill before puttng forth those amendments....just like his vote on the Health Care Bill. Vote without fully understanding what he is voting for. Do it just because it makes him look good before his gubernatorial run.

He wins we ALL lose. Of course, if Mufi wins we ALL lose. If Duke wins we ALL lose. I guess we ALL gonna lose.
What

Honolulu, HI

#47 Dec 16, 2009
Wong wrote:
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Shut up monkey you learned that from the bigot grandparents. Now if your going to tell me that it's written down in the history books, then I'll have to say screw your written history I would'nt
believe your history at all "all bull" your history is made to suit you but not the truth. So you can lie all you want, every other race knows the Americans are the greediest. Thats why America is hated so much you know 911 wasn't just a coincidence these people hate America with a passion. So keep on talking kaka we all know the true Americans are the native Americans. Talk about corrupt America is the most corrupted.
The Kingdom of Hawaii was just a bunch of greedy alii a.p.e.ing the European Monarchs. Care to dispute that?

All you offer is your personal view about hating these United States of America.

Let me remind you that it was the United States that set aside lands for the REAL native Hawaiians under the HHCA, 1920, and 5(f).

Your Kingdom RIPPED OFF the commoner native Hawaiians in the Mahele of 1848. If you had any sort of intelligence, you would have figured that out already and spared yourself the embarrassment of later finding out you had been fooled by these sovereignty frauds, felons and con artists.
Melikefocomment

Aurora, CO

#48 Dec 16, 2009
This AKAKA bill is really a "KAKA bill", folks! Kaka in some other languages means "doo-doo!" This weak senator has also done "KAKA work" in the US senate -Nothing of value! When will the remaining, pick-up truck driving, loco moco grinding, under- educated, lazy-a**, ignorant, freeloading, extremely racist and greedy 1% to 25% part Hawaiians realize that their ancestors were just too weak. "Lost the war", so move on to enjoy what the US has brought you! An opportunity to prosper in return for, uhm, work. Mahalo!
loco moco

Richmond, VA

#49 Dec 16, 2009
Lingle never gave a rat's poopdeck for the Kanaka Ma'oli so why should this be any surprise? We'll never see the day when a Republican supports our indigenous people.

Sure there are a scant few coconuts on the local GOP tree but none of them get any milk or meat inside, just da husk. Get the bill passed, throw the local Republicans over the Pali and don't forget to charge them for the parking fee!
Oahu Resident

Kailua Kona, HI

#50 Dec 16, 2009
Dan Akaka's time has come and gone...he is now a mumbling old man who needs Neil to do his job.

Neil is trying to ride in on a white horse and rescue the day in hopes that he will get people to vote for him for Govenor. It is totally political. I doubt Neil cares about the Hawaiian people...cause very few Hawaiians vote.

No community hearings were held, and the Governor was not even told about the amendments until Monday! Abercrombie wants to ram it down our throats!

I thought only Mufi did that? Now, who do we vote for our next governor? "Hippy Man" or "Do we need him, can we afford him, can we maintain him", or "my Republican hands are tied - Aiona". God help us!
Wong

Honolulu, HI

#51 Dec 16, 2009
Melikefocomment wrote:
This AKAKA bill is really a "KAKA bill", folks! Kaka in some other languages means "doo-doo!" This weak senator has also done "KAKA work" in the US senate -Nothing of value! When will the remaining, pick-up truck driving, loco moco grinding, under- educated, lazy-****, ignorant, freeloading, extremely racist and greedy 1% to 25% part Hawaiians realize that their ancestors were just too weak. "Lost the war", so move on to enjoy what the US has brought you! An opportunity to prosper in return for, uhm, work. Mahalo!
This weak senator. as oppose to you janitor melikefocomment or bathroom attendant. BTW when our ancestor discovered captain cook sneaking into our ports this is what you fat white pigs bought to us V.D, rats, cockroaches, lice, clap, herpes, B,O stank breath, bad teeth, and crappy white skin with spots. Thats what you stickies brought to Hawaii. The mainland has the most stinkiest white trash in the world. Not to mention the most greediest. It was your ancestors who were lazy witch is why they had to have slaves white people could never do anything for them selfs including wiping their own kaka holes. So talk about lazy loser. BTW the only reson we are called minority's is because you white scuzbags proliforate like the rats you all are.
Your Queen -1

Volcano, HI

#52 Dec 16, 2009
Poi you are just plain wrong...
please take off your own ignorant blinders enough to completely ignore the historical facts.
Below please READ the Queen's Abdication.... and don't blame us we learned if from Hawaii's King 'All men are of one blood'!
THE ABDICATION LETTER AND THE OATH OF LOYALTY, BOTH PERSONALLY SIGNED BY LILIUOKALANI, ARE AVAILABLE IN THE ARCHIVES OF THE STATE OF HAWAII go look it them yourself... I HAVE... have you? Didn't think so...
YOU and the other MISGUIDED HAWAIIANS should listen to your Queen!(Are you even Kanaka Mr. Oaktown?) Photocopies are available in file folders available on request from the librarian, and the originals are kept in a safe accessible only with the permission and direct supervision of the head Archivist.

ISLAND OF OAHU, HONOLULU
Jan. 24, 1895
TO THE HON. SANFORD BALLARD DOLE
President of the Republic of Hawaii
SIR,
After full and free consultation with my personal friends and with my legal advisors, both before and since my detention by military order in the Executive building, and acting in conformity with their advice, and also upon my own free volition, and in pursuance of my unalterable belief and understanding of my duty to the people of Hawaii, and to their highest and best interests, and also for the sake of those misguided Hawaiians and others who have recently engaged in rebellion against the Republic, and in an attempt to restore me to the position of queen, which I held prior to the 17th day of January, A. D. 1893, and without any claim that shall become entitled, by reason of anything that I may now say or do, to any other or different treatment or consideration at the hands of the Government than I otherwise could and might legally receive, I now desire to express and make known, and do hereby express and make known, to yourself, as the only lawful and recognized head of the Government, and to all the people of the Hawaiian Islands, whether or not they have yet become citizens of the Republic, or are or have been adherents of the late monarchy, and also to all diplomatic and other foreign representatives in the Hawaiian Islands, to all of whom I respectfully request you to cause this statement and action of mine to be made known as soon as may be, as follows, namely:
Your Queen -2

Volcano, HI

#53 Dec 16, 2009
First. In order to avoid any possibility of doubt or misunderstanding although I do not think that any doubt or misunderstanding is either proper or possible,_I hereby do fully and unequivocally admit and declare that the Government of the Republic of Hawaii is the only lawful Government of the Hawaiian Islands_, and that the late Hawaiian monarchy is finally and forever ended, and no longer of any legal or actual validity, force or effect whatsoever; and I do hereby forever absolve all persons whomsoever, whether in the Hawaiian Islands or elsewhere, from all and every manner of allegiance, or official obligation or duty, to me and my heirs and successors forever, and I hereby declare to all such persons in the Hawaiian Islands that I consider them as bound in duty and honor henceforth to support and sustain the Government of the Republic of Hawaii.

Second. For myself, my heirs and successors, I do hereby and without any mental reservation or modification, and fully, finally, unequivocally, irrevocably, and forever abdicate, renounce and release unto the Government of the Republic of Hawaii and the legitimate successors forever all claims or pretensions whatsoever to the late throne of Hawaii, or to the late monarchy of Hawaii, or to any past, or to the existing, or to any future Government of Hawaii, or under or by reason of any present or formerly existing constitution, statute, law, position, right or claim of any and every kind, name or nature whatsoever, and whether the same consist of pecuniary or property considerations, or of personal status, hereby forever renouncing, disowning and disclaiming all rights, claims, demands, privileges, honors, emoluments, titles and prerogatives whatsoever, under or by virtue of any former, or the existing Government, constitution, statute, law or custom of the Hawaiian Islands whatsoever, save and excepting only such rights and privileges as belong to me in common with all private citizens of, or residents in the Republic of Hawaii.

Third. I do hereby respectfully implore for such misguided Hawaiians and others as have been concerned in the late rebellion against the Republic of Hawaii, such degree of executive clemency as the Government may deem to be consistent with its duty to the community, and such as a due regard for its violated laws may permit.
Your Queen -3

Volcano, HI

#54 Dec 16, 2009
Fourth. It is my sincere desire henceforth to live in absolute privacy and retirement from all publicity, or even appearance of being concerned in the public affairs of the Hawaiian Islands, further than to express, as I now do and shall always continue to do, my most sincere hope for the welfare and prosperity of its people, under and subject to the Government of the Republic of Hawaii.

Fifth. I hereby offer and present my duly certified oath of allegiance to the Republic of Hawaii.

Sixth. I have caused the foregoing statement to be prepared and drawn, and have signed the same _without having received the slightest suggestion from the President of Hawaii, or from any member of the Government of Hawaii, concerning the same or any part thereof_, or concerning any action or course of my own in the premises. Relying upon the magnanimity of the Government of the Republic, and upon its protection.

I have the honor to be, Mr. President, very respectfully your most obedient servant,
Signed
LILIUOKALANI DOMINIS

["Dominis" is the Queen's married name as a private citizen]-

Note: As the "fifth" item listed in Lili'uokalani's abdication says, she swore an oath of allegiance to the Republic of Hawaii, also dated January 24, 1895. Here is the text of her oath:
OATH OF LOYALTY TO THE REPUBLIC OF HAWAII
I, Liliuokalani Dominis, do solemnly swear in the presence of Almighty God that I will support the Constitution, Laws and Government of the Republic of Hawaii, and will not, either directly or indirectly, encourage or assist in the restoration or establishment of a Monarchial form of Government in the Hawaiian Islands
[signed]
Liliuokalani Dominis
Subscribed and sworn to this 24th day of January, 1895 before me,
[signed]
W L. Stanley
Notary Public [notary seal)
HAWAII USA - THEN, NOW, F O R E V E R!
Kimo

Honolulu, HI

#55 Dec 16, 2009
Burn THE WITCH on a stake! She'd claw-out your Mother's eyeballs, peel them like grapes, and then eat them... What a horrible person, and she's the govenor..? Quel domage!
Chronic

Honolulu, HI

#56 Dec 16, 2009
Kimo wrote:
Burn THE WITCH on a stake! She'd claw-out your Mother's eyeballs, peel them like grapes, and then eat them... What a horrible person, and she's the govenor..? Quel domage!
Wow, feel better now? Got it outta your system?
BTW, you not Mike eh, you know Mike Tyson. Sound the same.
Eh gang cover your ears, Mike's on the loose.
End Of Aloha State

Ewa Beach, HI

#57 Dec 16, 2009
Many who have actually studied and UNDERSTOOD the BIG PICTURE in West Oahu KNOW that the Honolulu Railway links Honolulu Airport to the DiBartolo "Shopping Center" so that gamblers can flying in and catch the Honolulu Railway to the DiBartolo Casino.

The DiBartolo "shopping center" just
happens to be a planned Honolulu Railway station.

This will be a MASSIVE WINDFALL to DiBartolo- who has done the same scheme years ago in San Francisco, using PUBLIC TAX MONEY to make their development schemes into goldmines.

Just connect the DOTS people- Mufi Railway uses TAX MONEY to connect all the way to the DiBartolo "shopping center".

Mufi and his buddies do NOT CARE about taking cars off of
H-1-- it is about taking primarily Foreign Gamblers from HNL to the Casino is West Oahu! The DHHL land their does NOT have to follow City and State ordinances- they can do
ANYTHING- especially after the Akaka Tribe Bill legalizes RACISM and GAMBLING.

This is the BIGGEST CON JOB EVER- call up 60 Minutes!
End Of Aloha State

Ewa Beach, HI

#58 Dec 16, 2009
What is the Elevated Luxury Railway REALLY FOR?

Mufi railway is a Tax-Payer funded LUXURY RIDE from Honolulu International Airport to DeBartolo DHHL Vegas style Mall-Casino.

Oahu tax-Payers, Windward, Leeward, North Shore will be PAYING with HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES and greately REDUCED BUS SERVICE so that Mufi's FRIENDS can make a FORTUNE at Tax-payer Expense.

The Mufi Casino Gamblers Railway Line will someday be the subject of MANY investigative NEWS PROGRAMS as the "BIGGEST CON JOB IN THE UNITED STATES"- next to Bernie Madoff and the Wall Street con artists.

Oahu taxpayers will making a SMALL NUMBER of people VERY RICH- with their own Luxury Railway from JET RAMP to CASINO MALL in West Oahu.

The Akaka Tribe Bill is PART OF THE SCHEME- that's why the TIMING of the
Mufi Railway and Akaka Bill are so "Co-Incidental" This is all about
getting Gambling into Hawaii- by-passing public hearings- and making the Oahu TAX-PAYERS PAY FOR IT!

Bernie Madoff and Wall Street would be PROUD!
End Of Aloha State

Ewa Beach, HI

#59 Dec 16, 2009
These are DHHL's PARTNERS-

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch...

"Gangsta Rap" 12-10-97 Reno News & Review

"About eight years ago, the San Francisco Chronicle printed a major exposi on the DeBartolos. The story showed Eddie the Lesser's tribe up to their wealthy necks in Cleveland mobsters. Apparently the news media collectively forgot all about it during the 49ers' recent regionwide corporate welfare drives. Eddie, Jr., spent advertising megabucks to barely convince San Francisco taxpayers to back a new stadium and megamall."

http://www.brasscheck.com/stadium/moldea.html

"By 1965, DeBartolo had begun building shopping malls, beginning with the Summit Mall in Fairlawn, Ohio. A 1978 classified report fro the Florida Department of Law Enforcement described him as "a very wealthy, powerful, influential person with organized-crime connections in Ohio.
Subject deals in land purchases, construction and development of large shopping centers through the U.S."
End Of Aloha State

Ewa Beach, HI

#60 Dec 16, 2009
Here's DHHL's "Shopping Center" PARTNER--

DEBARTOLO ON VERGE OF FEDERAL INDICTMENT
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...

With federal gambling fraud charges looming against him, Edward DeBartolo Jr. resigned Tuesday as head of the San Francisco 49ers and turned control of the team over to his sister.

The stunning move by the 51-year-old DeBartolo, who has owned the National Football League's most successful team since 1977, came after the U.S. attorney's office in New Orleans notified him and former Louisiana Gov. Edwin Edwards that they are about to be indicted by a federal grand jury in Baton Rouge.

The exact nature of the impending felony charges was not known but they almost certainly involve a riverboat casino project in which DeBartolo was once involved.

DeBartolo, whose San Mateo-based DeBartolo Entertainment holds extensive card room and casino operations in several states, was not available for comment Tuesday morning.
Harry

Volcano, HI

#61 Dec 16, 2009
End... are you on drugs?!

This is NOT the thread on rail...
Please read before you spam!
Poiperson

Makawao, HI

#62 Dec 16, 2009
Wong wrote:
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This weak senator. as oppose to you janitor melikefocomment or bathroom attendant. BTW when our ancestor discovered captain cook sneaking into our ports this is what you fat white pigs bought to us V.D, rats, cockroaches, lice, clap, herpes, B,O stank breath, bad teeth, and crappy white skin with spots. Thats what you stickies brought to Hawaii. The mainland has the most stinkiest white trash in the world. Not to mention the most greediest. It was your ancestors who were lazy witch is why they had to have slaves white people could never do anything for them selfs including wiping their own kaka holes. So talk about lazy loser. BTW the only reson we are called minority's is because you white scuzbags proliforate like the rats you all are.
Do you consider yourself a racist?
Right On Lingle

Honolulu, HI

#64 Dec 16, 2009
Nanakuli Rules wrote:
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Right on Lingle, you sure you have the 50% blood quantum. In fact, your hero Lingle probably looks more Hawaiian than you.
And, how is this helpful?

Do you want the "toe-nail" Hawaiians telling you what to do?

If so, hang around OHA.
mauka kanaka

Honolulu, HI

#65 Dec 16, 2009
What wrote:
<quoted text>
The Kingdom of Hawaii was just a bunch of greedy alii a.p.e.ing the European Monarchs. Care to dispute that?
All you offer is your personal view about hating these United States of America.
Let me remind you that it was the United States that set aside lands for the REAL native Hawaiians under the HHCA, 1920, and 5(f).
Your Kingdom RIPPED OFF the commoner native Hawaiians in the Mahele of 1848. If you had any sort of intelligence, you would have figured that out already and spared yourself the embarrassment of later finding out you had been fooled by these sovereignty frauds, felons and con artists.
And then your forefathers came along after that and did the same thing. How nice of you to do this and save us from these terrible Alii. Thats funny you guys have a history of that kind of things. Starting with native indians and then mexicans. I suppose you save those blacks also by loading them up in ships and making them your slaves. The great whiteman is alsways saving people. Let me thank you now MAHALO.

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