House votes to freeze congressional, ...

House votes to freeze congressional, federal pay

There are 23 comments on the The Washington Post story from Feb 1, 2012, titled House votes to freeze congressional, federal pay. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

Sean Duffy sponsored the measure that would freeze federal and congressional pay for a third year.

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Ex-GOP Con

United States

#1 Feb 1, 2012
Freeze? How about cutting them instead. And your tax payer paid healthcare benefits. Why should we be paying you 6 figures plus benefits for doing nothing?
ABO not ABC

UK

#2 Feb 1, 2012
A move in the right direction!

Obama in his State of the Union speech takes credit for everything but does not mention that Republicans forced him to accept $2 trillion in budget cuts during the debt-ceiling impasse.

A pat on the back to everyone who voted GOP in November 2010. CBO shows that the deficit is still in trouble but that there are signs of reversal.

We must turn the boat around some more! ABO 2012.

The freeze on congressional and federal pay will help. Remember, Obama upon election hired 80% of his campaign donors or families and immediately gave them pay increases from 10-50%. This is unconscionable in a budget crisis and a sign this imposter is in it for himself and he has the effrontery to pretend he cares.

THIS IS NOT A LIKABLE MAN. GET THE WORD OUR AND WAKE THE SLEEPERS.

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#3 Feb 1, 2012
Ex-GOP Con wrote:
Freeze? How about cutting them instead. And your tax payer paid healthcare benefits. Why should we be paying you 6 figures plus benefits for doing nothing?
Well shit. You praised peelosi for passing the healthcare scam when the members of congress would not be required to be on it.
You seemed to be happy with her spending like crazy with her new aircraft, ligour cabinet on board flying her family around at taxpayer expense.

Make up your fkn mind.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#4 Feb 2, 2012
I heard that anyone who works for congress for even just one term is eligible to receive their monthly pay for the rest of their life.

is this true?

if so, that is not right. and should be stopped.

another thing... I think mandatory drug testing for all politicians on capitol hill should be made law. and enforced aggressively.

and that includes the president of the usa. nobody is above the law.

we have drug tests for athelics, security positions, even regular jobs to prevent those who are drug addicts from working on jobs that require responsible people.

then, you ask yourself why the politicians are not being treated the same way?

only someone who is a drug addict would not agree to have this law in place.
DENG

Chengdu, China

#5 Feb 2, 2012
THE POLITICIANS SHOULD RAISE THEIR PAY FOR DOING SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB OF DESTROYING AMERICA

Since: Feb 07

Whitman,Ma

#6 Feb 2, 2012
If they took the money they make on outside deals and subtract it from what their salary and bennies are, then they should be wriying a check to help pay the the daficit. Dafacit is the way a TN Senator use to pronounce it.
Sick of Stupid

Ames, IA

#7 Feb 2, 2012
ABO not ABC wrote:
...Remember, Obama upon election hired 80% of his campaign donors or families and immediately gave them pay increases from 10-50%. This is unconscionable in a budget crisis and a sign this imposter is in it for himself and he has the effrontery to pretend he cares.
THIS IS NOT A LIKABLE MAN. GET THE WORD OUR AND WAKE THE SLEEPERS.
Your information on who Obama hired and how much he paid them is not backed up by any other facts or numbers I have seen r read.
More Conservative Republican lying BS.
Obama 2012
Ex-GOP Con

United States

#8 Feb 2, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Well shit. You praised peelosi for passing the healthcare scam when the members of congress would not be required to be on it.
You seemed to be happy with her spending like crazy with her new aircraft, ligour cabinet on board flying her family around at taxpayer expense.
Make up your fkn mind.
Lie much? I'm starting to see a theme here with you. Show me where I praised her for spending on her aircraft just to start.

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#9 Feb 2, 2012
Ex-GOP Con wrote:
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Lie much? I'm starting to see a theme here with you. Show me where I praised her for spending on her aircraft just to start.
Birds of a feather, clown. Didn't hear you say anything against it either. Turn you head and cough at the frivolous spending of the demorats because you think you'll get something out of it. LMAO

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#10 Feb 2, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
I heard that anyone who works for congress for even just one term is eligible to receive their monthly pay for the rest of their life.
is this true?
yes.
it's true.
Moliner

El Centro, CA

#11 Feb 2, 2012
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
yes.
it's true.
No, it isn't.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/co...

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#12 Feb 2, 2012
Moliner wrote:
my bad.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#14 Feb 2, 2012
This is more deflection. The National debt is not because of what we pay hourly Federal Employees, it's directly linked to the spending of George Bush and the Republicans and those unfunded Tax Policies that destroyed America in 2001 and 2003.

The Republicans aim is and always has been to reduce the Federal Government to limit their resources so that the laws on the books can not be enforced. Without financing there is no enforcement of rules and regulations. Without resources there is no means to ensure equal access to markets in America.

No protection in those markets for consumers. No quality assurance programs for items and goods Americans consume. No protection against hazardous chemicals used American households.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#15 Feb 2, 2012
Like all federal employees, they don't get a raise, but they all get a 'cost of living increase', those are automatic, every year. I can see why they are upset about not getting both. If I could get a bigger check next month than I did this month, I don't care what you call it.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Feb 2, 2012
don't freeze their pay, cut it...cut it back about 20% and lay off the slackers, malcontents, and malingerers....that'll get them to about 40% of the current number, thats a start.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#17 Feb 2, 2012
Moliner wrote:
that source you provided has contradicting information.

on one hand, it says members of congress are not eligible for pension until they are age 50 AND have served 20 years in congress.

THEN, immediately following that statement, it says "NOTE: members of congress need to serve 5 years before they are eligible for a pension."

sounds like bullshit to me. apparently, they ARE receiving their monthly salary after ONE term in congress. since ONE term for a senator is 6 years.
Moliner

El Centro, CA

#18 Feb 2, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
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that source you provided has contradicting information.
on one hand, it says members of congress are not eligible for pension until they are age 50 AND have served 20 years in congress.
THEN, immediately following that statement, it says "NOTE: members of congress need to serve 5 years before they are eligible for a pension."
sounds like bullshit to me. apparently, they ARE receiving their monthly salary after ONE term in congress. since ONE term for a senator is 6 years.
Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem.
They have to serve 5 years in order to be vested in the program.

How long do you have to work in order to be eligible to participate in your employer's pension plan, assuming you have an employer? For most, it is 10 years. That doesn't mean you get pension benefits then. It merely means you get to participate in the program.
Ex-GOP Con

United States

#19 Feb 2, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Birds of a feather, clown. Didn't hear you say anything against it either. Turn you head and cough at the frivolous spending of the demorats because you think you'll get something out of it. LMAO
Wow you lie ALOT. "Didn't hear you say anything against it either"?--- what a crock of $h!t and a weak way to defend your position and your lies.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#20 Feb 2, 2012
Moliner wrote:
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Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem.
They have to serve 5 years in order to be vested in the program.
How long do you have to work in order to be eligible to participate in your employer's pension plan, assuming you have an employer? For most, it is 10 years. That doesn't mean you get pension benefits then. It merely means you get to participate in the program.
QUOTE from wikipedia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_pe...

"A full pension is available to Members 62 years of age with 5 years of service; 50 years or older with 20 years of service; or 25 years of service at any age."

discussed in the following link...
http://www.dailylocal.com/articles/2011/10/10...

QUOTE from above source..

"Members of Congress can begin to receive federal pensions at age 62 after completing five years of service, a benchmark all four members of the local delegation have reached.

But if they have completed 20 years of service in Congress, they can get their pensions at age 50, or at any age after completing 25 years of service, according to the Congressional Research Service."

according to the following source, FERS is the retirement plan that congressmen are linked to. there are 3 components to the plan.
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/index.asp
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/eligibilit...

the amount of the pension is based on your salary for the last 3 years of your employment.

need I say more?

if you are 62 years of age, and have 5 years employment as a congressment, you are entitled to a FULL pension after just ONE term in office.

those who are senators would fit in this category.

bro, you need to ask yourself why ron paul, and other politicians even bring this topic up for discussion if there was nothing unusual about it.

“Your guide to...”

Since: Feb 12

the Abyss

#21 Feb 3, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
QUOTE from wikipedia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_pe...
"A full pension is available to Members 62 years of age with 5 years of service; 50 years or older with 20 years of service; or 25 years of service at any age."
discussed in the following link...
http://www.dailylocal.com/articles/2011/10/10...
QUOTE from above source..
"Members of Congress can begin to receive federal pensions at age 62 after completing five years of service, a benchmark all four members of the local delegation have reached.
But if they have completed 20 years of service in Congress, they can get their pensions at age 50, or at any age after completing 25 years of service, according to the Congressional Research Service."
according to the following source, FERS is the retirement plan that congressmen are linked to. there are 3 components to the plan.
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/index.asp
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/eligibilit...
the amount of the pension is based on your salary for the last 3 years of your employment.
need I say more?
if you are 62 years of age, and have 5 years employment as a congressment, you are entitled to a FULL pension after just ONE term in office.
those who are senators would fit in this category.
bro, you need to ask yourself why ron paul, and other politicians even bring this topic up for discussion if there was nothing unusual about it.
Anyone that quotes wikipedia as a source loses all credibility at the onset. You may as well quote the neighborhood gossip monger.

Understand that only a few qualify for retirement after 5 years of service, not all of them.

Hell, I qualified for a pension from John Deere Corp. after only 14 years of service, and received pension from MMNA with only 3 years of service. There are qualifiers...... total years of service, age, etc. You seem to be overlooking much of that, in spite of having quoted same in your post.

You're apparently ill equipped for an intelligent discussion so I'll not respond to any more of your posts on this matter.

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