Trans Candidate Doesn't Support Gay Marriage

May 22, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Advocate

Donna Milo may be transgender but that doesn't mean the Republican congressional candidate from Florida supports same-sex marriage or is a big fan of adoption by gay parents.

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#1 May 22, 2010
This Bitch is really biting off the hand that feeds her isn't she...by that I mean she's shitting on the community that supports her and her right to be who she feels she is....If she thinks she get the same support from some bunch of right wing bible thumping republicans she is deranged...she's just burnt her last bridge with the LGBT community....just like Steve/Susan Stanton did when the community came out to support her and she side with HRC and shit all over the LGBT community calling for a transless ENDA...and we all known what happened to her she's living a lonely little life in exile.... I'm just not sure what it is about these upper middle class white Transsexuals that makes them feel they need to turn on the very community that accepted them from their beginning.

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#2 May 22, 2010
Maybe its because the LGB seem to not want us in their community. While i agree that she should support gay marriage it seems that to the gay community transexuals are expendable.

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#3 May 22, 2010
Roisia wrote:
Maybe its because the LGB seem to not want us in their community. While i agree that she should support gay marriage it seems that to the gay community transexuals are expendable.
Roisa I don't think it's Transsexuals that we kick to the curb but the Transgender and yes theres a differant.

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#4 May 22, 2010
Brandi P wrote:
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Roisa I don't think it's Transsexuals that we kick to the curb but the Transgender and yes theres a differant.
A transexual is a transgender. Expecially in the transition phase.

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#5 May 22, 2010
Roisia wrote:
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A transexual is a transgender. Expecially in the transition phase.
Sorry Roisia but that's incorrect Transgender is a term coined by the late Virginia Prince and it techniclly has no difintion were as Transsexual by definition according to the encarta dictionary is

trans·sex·u·al [ transs sékshoo &#601;l ](plural trans·sex·u·als)

noun

Definition:

1. somebody whose sex is surgically changed: somebody who has undergone treatment to change his or her anatomical sex


2. somebody who identifies with opposite sex: somebody who identifies himself or herself as a member of the opposite sex




trans·sex·u·al adjective
trans·sex·u·al·ism noun

were as for Transgender we see theres nothing

transgender




trans·gen·der [ transs jénd&#601;r, tranz jénd&#601;r ] or trans·gen·dered [ transs jénd&#601;rd, tranz jénd&#601;rd ]

adjective

Definition:



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#6 May 22, 2010
Brandi P wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry Roisia but that's incorrect Transgender is a term coined by the late Virginia Prince and it techniclly has no difintion were as Transsexual by definition according to the encarta dictionary is
trans·sex·u·al [ transs sékshoo &#601;l ](plural trans·sex·u·als)
noun
Definition:
1. somebody whose sex is surgically changed: somebody who has undergone treatment to change his or her anatomical sex
2. somebody who identifies with opposite sex: somebody who identifies himself or herself as a member of the opposite sex
trans·sex·u·al adjective
trans·sex·u·al·ism noun
were as for Transgender we see theres nothing
transgender
trans·gen·der [ transs jénd&#601;r, tranz jénd&#601;r ] or trans·gen·dered [ transs jénd&#601;rd, tranz jénd&#601;rd ]
adjective
Definition:
Your one of those people who has made it through transition and don't care about those who follow aren't you?

Here's the deal. Transgenders is a blanket term for all gender variant people. TO INCLUDE TRANSSEXUAL. A transsexual who is just beginning Transition is no different in the eyes of the public as a cross dress, transvestite or transgenderist.

Transsexuals are transgenders period.

Let me guess your not transsexual you suffer from harry Benjamin syndrome. Or is it that you are just trannier than thou?

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#7 May 22, 2010
Roisia wrote:
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Your one of those people who has made it through transition and don't care about those who follow aren't you?
Here's the deal. Transgenders is a blanket term for all gender variant people. TO INCLUDE TRANSSEXUAL. A transsexual who is just beginning Transition is no different in the eyes of the public as a cross dress, transvestite or transgenderist.
Transsexuals are transgenders period.
Let me guess your not transsexual you suffer from harry Benjamin syndrome. Or is it that you are just trannier than thou?
To your first question NO I'm one of those people who think you damn trannies have screwed up the integrity of the GID diagnosis with your self diagnosis Internet hormone flying to Thailand without letters for surgery bullshit......Second thats not the deal it may be what you'd like to believe but its not the way it is. A TRUE transsexual doesn't have a damn thing in common with some pantie wear cder prancing around his living room. Next NO your wrong again I don't suffer from anything....nor am I trannie in any way shape or form....I'm just a women the only thing I may suffer from is not having enough shoes....lol Lastly "Transgenderist" is that even a word or did you just make that up....LOL

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#8 May 22, 2010
Brandi P wrote:
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To your first question NO I'm one of those people who think you damn trannies have screwed up the integrity of the GID diagnosis with your self diagnosis Internet hormone flying to Thailand without letters for surgery bullshit......Second thats not the deal it may be what you'd like to believe but its not the way it is. A TRUE transsexual doesn't have a damn thing in common with some pantie wear cder prancing around his living room. Next NO your wrong again I don't suffer from anything....nor am I trannie in any way shape or form....I'm just a women the only thing I may suffer from is not having enough shoes....lol Lastly "Transgenderist" is that even a word or did you just make that up....LOL
Well lets see. I have both letters i need. I have a therapists approval. I was PRESCRIBED hormones by a doctor recommended by Marcie
bowers. My roommate has her GID diagnoses from a gender therapist. I also do suicide prevention for the transgender community. You know what one of the major rules is there. We discourage self medication. In fact im currently unemployed i cannot afford the doctor so you know how im getting my hormones? Im not im suffering through all that menopause is without the medications because i wont get them without a prescription.

I never said we had anything in common with cross dressers other than the severity of our gender disphoria. IE cross dressers have a very light version were as transsexuals have a very strong version. I said what society sees. Trust me when i say this. They see transsexuals as little more than what i said they see us.

As for transgenderist that is the polite term for shemale. A transsexual who doesn't plan on having the final surgery if you don't know what a she male is.

And what we call you is trannier than thou the triple T. The only way to transition is your way if we don't do it your way we are not true transsexuals. It doesn't matter the reason we don't for example money issues. Ive lived as a woman for 3 years. Ive been on hormones for 2 yet i haven't had surgery not because i am not planning on having it I haven't because i don't have the money. However I'm sure that makes me a "Trannie" in your eyes.

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#9 May 22, 2010
Why would being tans - and I don't know from only the blurb whether this individual is pre or post op - necessary shield one from expressing the psychological disorder known as Republicanism?

Besides, she could change her position on marriage equality. She's flip flopped in the past on other matters....

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#10 May 23, 2010
Roisia wrote:
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A transexual is a transgender. Expecially in the transition phase.
This is Correct! Transgender is a non specific trem covering all "cross sex" behavior. From a panty fetish to a fully transitioned Transexual! It is incorrect to use it interchangeabily with Transexual. The late Virginia Prince coined the word "Transgenderist" to denote an extreme Transvestite. Which is what she was. My belief is that she was a Transexual, who for psychological reasons, could not have the surgery. She was taking hormones, dressing and presenting as a woman full time by the end of her life. Another who lived as a woman was Charlotte Von ____dorf ,( My memory won't give me her name) She wrote the book "I am my own wife". I believe that many Transexuals born in that period are so indoctrinated by the late victorian thought that prevents total transition,no matter how strong their aversion to being male is.
Regards, Terry

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#11 May 23, 2010
Roisia wrote:
<quoted text>
A transexual is a transgender. Expecially in the transition phase.
Charlotte Von Mahlsdorf (Lothar Bersfelde) Google

Since: Jan 09

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#12 May 23, 2010
What "feed" did she ever get from the GBLT movement? As soon as they find out you're a republican, they ignore you! First thing you must do is park your brains at the door and be prepared to swallow a lot of politically correct BS. As Maggie Thatcher once said, "What did women's liberation ever do for me?" What exactly did GBLT "Liberation" ever do for Donna Milo? Help her get her pilot's license? Nooo! Help her run her construction business? Nope
The only thing that's going help us is not being an Abstraction. Seeing and being seen. Going to Garage sales and flea markets and any where else there's people around. Not Ghettoising ourselves. And that takes more courage than endlessly posting on Topix what's wrong with every other TS.
Regards, Terry
Brandi P wrote:
This Bitch is really biting off the hand that feeds her isn't she...by that I mean she's shitting on the community that supports her and her right to be who she feels she is....If she thinks she get the same support from some bunch of right wing bible thumping republicans she is deranged...she's just burnt her last bridge with the LGBT community....just like Steve/Susan Stanton did when the community came out to support her and she side with HRC and shit all over the LGBT community calling for a transless ENDA...and we all known what happened to her she's living a lonely little life in exile.... I'm just not sure what it is about these upper middle class white Transsexuals that makes them feel they need to turn on the very community that accepted them from their beginning.

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#13 May 23, 2010
TerryE wrote:
What "feed" did she ever get from the GBLT movement? As soon as they find out you're a republican, they ignore you! First thing you must do is park your brains at the door and be prepared to swallow a lot of politically correct BS. As Maggie Thatcher once said, "What did women's liberation ever do for me?" What exactly did GBLT "Liberation" ever do for Donna Milo? Help her get her pilot's license? Nooo! Help her run her construction business? Nope
The only thing that's going help us is not being an Abstraction. Seeing and being seen. Going to Garage sales and flea markets and any where else there's people around. Not Ghettoising ourselves. And that takes more courage than endlessly posting on Topix what's wrong with every other TS.
Regards, Terry
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Terry If it was for the progress of what is now the LGBT movement Donna Milo wouldn't have ever had the courage or opportunity to transition nor would she be able to run for any office....it's the blood sweat and tears of over 50 years of fighting by the LGBT community that allows her to do any of this and to show her thanks she shits all over it and everyone who's marched and protested and gone to jail or dyed fighting for equality. That what FEED she got from it.....and she and you would do well to remember that. As for your assertion that just being seen at Garage sales and flea markets and in public is going to change minds and hearts your wrong bigotry is bigotry and being seen in public dressed flamboyantly can often be the spark that fuels someone anger and sends them over the edge to violent.

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#14 May 23, 2010
Roisia wrote:
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Well lets see. I have both letters i need. I have a therapists approval. I was PRESCRIBED hormones by a doctor recommended by Marcie
bowers. My roommate has her GID diagnoses from a gender therapist. I also do suicide prevention for the transgender community. You know what one of the major rules is there. We discourage self medication. In fact im currently unemployed i cannot afford the doctor so you know how im getting my hormones? Im not im suffering through all that menopause is without the medications because i wont get them without a prescription.
I never said we had anything in common with cross dressers other than the severity of our gender disphoria. IE cross dressers have a very light version were as transsexuals have a very strong version. I said what society sees. Trust me when i say this. They see transsexuals as little more than what i said they see us.
As for transgenderist that is the polite term for shemale. A transsexual who doesn't plan on having the final surgery if you don't know what a she male is.
And what we call you is trannier than thou the triple T. The only way to transition is your way if we don't do it your way we are not true transsexuals. It doesn't matter the reason we don't for example money issues. Ive lived as a woman for 3 years. Ive been on hormones for 2 yet i haven't had surgery not because i am not planning on having it I haven't because i don't have the money. However I'm sure that makes me a "Trannie" in your eyes.
Roisia well if what you say is true then you ad I have more in common then I first thought. I don't except anyone to transition as "I" did however I do support ONLY transitions that follow the SOC and are followed to completion meaning that they lead to grs surgery. However I disagree that Cders have any form of transsexualism they have a fetish yes but they do not have female gender Identities at all they are MEN pure and simple and hobbies at best. Transgenderist aw !! another made up term by Virginia Prince to vilify her shemale lifestyle to make being what she was more palatable.. its B/S pure and simple and thats why NO dictionary includes it or her made up term Transgender. Lastly shemales aren't Transsexuals they are men who have a sever sexual fetish and mold themselves into some half male half female sex toy so they can enjoy their male genitalia and fulfill their sexual fantasies.

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#15 May 23, 2010
TerryE wrote:
What "feed" did she ever get from the GBLT movement? As soon as they find out you're a republican, they ignore you! First thing you must do is park your brains at the door and be prepared to swallow a lot of politically correct BS.
Oh really Terry?

Have you heard of Nathan Fletcher?(yes a great big REPUBLICAN!)

You should look him up. I think he hung up his "I'm gonna follow the party mandates" and actually decided to THINK for himself as a REPUBLICAN.....
Funny how the GLBT actually took NOTICE of him!

“ ILKS r kewl ”

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#16 May 23, 2010
Just listened to the entire interview..

Donna (Ed) is DEFINITELY a pig with lipstick.
What an idiot!

He is definitely a STRAIGHT religious male with surgically altered genitalia!

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#17 May 23, 2010
I disagree! Vehemately! How do you know how much courage she has?
Quite a bit from what I've seen! People without courage seldom start their own construction businesses. People who have no courage do not become pilots. People with no courage don't take a chance and run for congress. People have been transitioning WITHOUT any help from these organizations since 1952. Check out Lynn Conway's site. True, some of them paid an awful price! But they transitioned! Originally, those gay orgs. wanted nothing to do with us. Most of the people in them still don't! The "T" was added on as an afterthought. She doesn't Shlt on them, she treats them the way they treated us. Virginia Prince and Phyllis R. Frye
did a lot more groundbreaking work for us than HRC. My assertion was and is that visibility and becoming real instead of an abstraction will get us further in the long run than all the civil rights laws the Gay lawyers at HRC can dream up. Suddenly the public "Knows" one! They had heard about us, but they never met one of us before. We don't bite! And except for the sex change thing, we're just like anyone else! We started being real, not an abstraction ! And we're not so bad. Welcome to the human race!
Regards, Terry
Brandi P wrote:
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Terry If it was for the progress of what is now the LGBT movement Donna Milo wouldn't have ever had the courage or opportunity to transition nor would she be able to run for any office....it's the blood sweat and tears of over 50 years of fighting by the LGBT community that allows her to do any of this and to show her thanks she shits all over it and everyone who's marched and protested and gone to jail or dyed fighting for equality. That what FEED she got from it.....and she and you would do well to remember that. As for your assertion that just being seen at Garage sales and flea markets and in public is going to change minds and hearts your wrong bigotry is bigotry and being seen in public dressed flamboyantly can often be the spark that fuels someone anger and sends them over the edge to violent.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#18 May 23, 2010
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>Oh really Terry?
Have you heard of Nathan Fletcher?(yes a great big REPUBLICAN!)
You should look him up. I think he hung up his "I'm gonna follow the party mandates" and actually decided to THINK for himself as a REPUBLICAN.....
Funny how the GLBT actually took NOTICE of him!
Nathan who?

“Even an Ice Princess can melt.”

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#19 May 23, 2010
Brandi P wrote:
<quoted text>
Roisia well if what you say is true then you ad I have more in common then I first thought. I don't except anyone to transition as "I" did however I do support ONLY transitions that follow the SOC and are followed to completion meaning that they lead to grs surgery. However I disagree that Cders have any form of transsexualism they have a fetish yes but they do not have female gender Identities at all they are MEN pure and simple and hobbies at best. Transgenderist aw !! another made up term by Virginia Prince to vilify her shemale lifestyle to make being what she was more palatable.. its B/S pure and simple and thats why NO dictionary includes it or her made up term Transgender. Lastly shemales aren't Transsexuals they are men who have a sever sexual fetish and mold themselves into some half male half female sex toy so they can enjoy their male genitalia and fulfill their sexual fantasies.
I know many in the transgenders community that are CD that are andro and not just MTF or FTM and they have every right to be themselves most of them are not fetishists most of them are fairly normal good people who just cross dress or really don't consider them male or female. To say that any one who is not MTF or FTM is a fetishist is to completely take away who they are and give them a label that is wrong. Kinda what happens to the Tran sexual community. Who are we to label people just because we don't agree with their life style. To do so makes us hypocrites.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

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#20 May 23, 2010
FOLK......... Here is MY email to Signorile. Read it carefully.

"Mike, I listened to your interview with Donna Milo and had some serious issues. I myself couldn’t believe what was reported and ‘said’. I, enraged actually, contacted Donna via email and she immediately responded with an attempt to clarify.

As It turned out we had an in-depth conversation via telephone and I think your interview did a disservice to this candidate. She is in FACT instep with the GLBT community and very much informed on ‘our’ issues and where we (as a community) stand.

You did not give her the opportunity (and she is a novice to politics) to actually express her standings in a clear manner. We saw exactly eye to eye on matters that affect the GLBT community clearly. She did not have the clarity to express verbally her actual viewpoints and convictions, which are very clearly in our favor.

I would contact her again for another interview for clarification and a reversal of your ‘assumptions’.

Clearly, I feel now as though you definitely need to ‘do your homework’ and correct disinformation currently being disseminated throughout the GLBT community."

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