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Kathy Hochul Wins House Seat in What is Seen as Medicare Referendum

There are 139 comments on the www.huliq.com story from May 25, 2011, titled Kathy Hochul Wins House Seat in What is Seen as Medicare Referendum. In it, www.huliq.com reports that:

In a special House election on Tuesday night, Democrat Kathy Hochul won what had been a Republican seat in upstate New York, in what many saw as a possible referendum against the Medicare cuts authored by Paul Ryan in the GOP budget proposal.

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“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#23 May 25, 2011
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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We have last year and will continue as the deficit gets fixed by the house. Thanks,
The House will be a house of cards until the Democrats take charge again. Yes, the public will remember Ryan's Medicare fiasco. We'll keep reminding them.
Ex-GOP Con

New York, NY

#24 May 25, 2011
Speaking of Hussein. Didn't the GOP keep pumping billions into that war for oil even afte the Dems tried to stop it? Did we ever find the WMDs? Did we ever get the Oil the GOP/Bush said would pay for the war? Hussein...oh the memories. Thanks for the reminder. I know Blackwater and Halliburton made millions/billions though.

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The right IS becoming deranged.
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Deo Vindice wrote:
Oh well, just another dushbag feminist.
Unless Hussein Obama gets his 40 Million illegal Mexicans and 35 Million illegal muslims by 2012, the Republicans are going to clean house.
Dushbag feminists like Boxerface, Feinstain, Polusi, and such, will return home to bake cookies and continue to boycott products such as Vagisil and Summer Eve.
The White House will be cleaned and fumigated with industrial strength Lysol.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#25 May 25, 2011
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
Upstate NY, which was a vibrant, bustling part of the country, but left it due to the lack of career opportunities. Eastman Kodak and many other corporations moved to states like Tennessee, due to crippling taxes in New York. Property, state, and local taxes there are exorbitant. Many parts of New York State look now like ghost towns. Some of the states in New England are in a similar situation. You've run everyone out of the central valley of California and nothing left but illegal aliens, you make them tons of promises, allow them to vote and think it's what the rest of America wishes? LOL
Just like the dems, run everyone out of an area, elect who they want and then tell the rest of us that this is how America thinks. You'll find out different, soon. Real soon!
Again, you show that you know little of what you're talking about. Kodak was never in Tennessee, still has it's corporate office in Rochester, but is registered in N.J.;

"The company is incorporated in New Jersey but has its offices in Rochester, New York.[8]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak

Now since you don't live in N.Y., and I do, learn a little. Upstate N.Y. has a much lower tax rate than the Metro area, Long Island, Westchester, all other southern N.Y. counties. Most of upstate N.Y. workers are employees in the prison system. Oneonta would have nothing but tumbleweeds up there were it not for the college up there. Same for Rochester - SUNY at Buffalo.

IBM has had a large uptick in hiring over the last 18 months, in Armonk, N.Y. Still one of the largest corporations in the world - still located in Armonk, N.Y.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM

Come back for another spanking spunky!

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#26 May 25, 2011
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
Upstate NY, which was a vibrant, bustling part of the country, but left it due to the lack of career opportunities. Eastman Kodak and many other corporations moved to states like Tennessee, due to crippling taxes in New York. Property, state, and local taxes there are exorbitant. Many parts of New York State look now like ghost towns. Some of the states in New England are in a similar situation. You've run everyone out of the central valley of California and nothing left but illegal aliens, you make them tons of promises, allow them to vote and think it's what the rest of America wishes? LOL
Just like the dems, run everyone out of an area, elect who they want and then tell the rest of us that this is how America thinks. You'll find out different, soon. Real soon!
Most people didn't even know there was an election. LOL-this means nothing. I didn't know until just now. And look this lady doesn't even live in the district. Yep.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#27 May 25, 2011
Ex-GOP Con wrote:
Speaking of Hussein. Didn't the GOP keep pumping billions into that war for oil even afte the Dems tried to stop it? Did we ever find the WMDs? Did we ever get the Oil the GOP/Bush said would pay for the war? Hussein...oh the memories. Thanks for the reminder. I know Blackwater and Halliburton made millions/billions though.
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The right IS becoming deranged.
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But yet you have no problem that Blackwater has now renamed themselves and are working for Hussein O'bama?
According to a recent report by the New York Times, the Obama administration has retained the services of the notorious Blackwater guards to carry out drone attacks in Afghanistan, denoting no substantive distinction from the Bush administrationís use of Blackwater - now operating under the banner of Xe Services LLC - to carry out ítargeted assassinationsí in Iraq.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article161769.html

The left is blind.
Ex-GOP Con

Lyndhurst, NJ

#28 May 25, 2011
Meh...I don't mind the war in Afghanistan so much. That's where the terrorist threat has always been. But now that Bin Laden has been found and killed and our fellow Americans have been avenged I am hoping that we can finally pull our troops out of these foreign wars and have them back home instead patrolling our borders.

The party that does that will have my vote.

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The right IS becoming deranged.
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fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>But yet you have no problem that Blackwater has now renamed themselves and are working for Hussein O'bama?
According to a recent report by the New York Times, the Obama administration has retained the services of the notorious Blackwater guards to carry out drone attacks in Afghanistan, denoting no substantive distinction from the Bush administrationís use of Blackwater - now operating under the banner of Xe Services LLC - to carry out ítargeted assassinationsí in Iraq.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article161769.html
The left is blind.
Tony

Bradenton, FL

#29 May 25, 2011
party politics is the single most destructive situation, event, or thing that has ever been brought against Americans....

americans are too stupid to see what has happened to them.
Billy Ringo

Shady Side, MD

#30 May 25, 2011
Tony wrote:
party politics is the single most destructive situation, event, or thing that has ever been brought against Americans....
americans are too stupid to see what has happened to them.
You mean like a guy who has bilked Medicare out of millions of dollars - and then the people of Florida make him governor?

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#31 May 25, 2011
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>The House will be a house of cards until the Democrats take charge again. Yes, the public will remember Ryan's Medicare fiasco. We'll keep reminding them.
So our bankrupt and corrupt government is quietly writing and cashing checks to itself. A desperate, normally prosecutable check-kiting scheme that only postpones the day of reckoning and assurances to make that day MUCH WORSE.
iluvredleather

Denver, CO

#32 May 25, 2011
NY is full of second generation children of socialist immigrants (like my Papa who escaped Mussolini and was a union organizer in Rochester), I grew up and there and am surprised there were any Republican dominated seats.

I think this is more proof that American people are growing weaker and weaker, more and more dependent on entitlements. It also backs up what a NY Times columnist said last week- today's elderly are the largest and richest lobbying group in the country and care NOTHING about the country other than what they can squeeze from it. They paid in, but not NEARLY what they are taking out. I am 50 and have paid in hugely as a sole-proprietor small business owner and I would be glad for reform to Medicare, Medicaid, and SS, even if it dented or delayed my benefits.

Everybody wants everything "fixed", but Dems have convinced people that they shouldn't have to make any sacrifices to do it. Just for their own gain and power.

Discouraging.
Billy Ringo

Shady Side, MD

#33 May 25, 2011
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>So our bankrupt and corrupt government is quietly writing and cashing checks to itself. A desperate, normally prosecutable check-kiting scheme that only postpones the day of reckoning and assurances to make that day MUCH WORSE.
The can't be doing it all that quietly, if an assclown like you knows about it.

Speaking of which.......

Palin/Bachmann - 2012 <-- damn mavericky !!!!!
iluvredleather

Denver, CO

#34 May 25, 2011
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>The House will be a house of cards until the Democrats take charge again. Yes, the public will remember Ryan's Medicare fiasco. We'll keep reminding them.
Keep on reminding.

It just reminds me how entitled you feel you are. How little you care for the next generations. The pendulum will swing.

Anyone who can look at what is happening in Greece and Spain and France and Italy and still stands on his left foot is either incredibly stupid or incredibly selfish- or both, I guess.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#35 May 25, 2011
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>So our bankrupt and corrupt government is quietly writing and cashing checks to itself. A desperate, normally prosecutable check-kiting scheme that only postpones the day of reckoning and assurances to make that day MUCH WORSE.
Right wing vacuum-heads offend me.
Ex-GOP Con

Lyndhurst, NJ

#36 May 25, 2011
Riiiighhht...so instead of paying higher taxes to pay for the Bush/GOP debt, the GOP instead are going to cut Medicare/Medicaid to pay for the Obama/Dem debt.

Suuure..the GOP is making such great sacrifices.

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The right IS becoming deranged.
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iluvredleather wrote:
NY is full of second generation children of socialist immigrants (like my Papa who escaped Mussolini and was a union organizer in Rochester), I grew up and there and am surprised there were any Republican dominated seats.
I think this is more proof that American people are growing weaker and weaker, more and more dependent on entitlements. It also backs up what a NY Times columnist said last week- today's elderly are the largest and richest lobbying group in the country and care NOTHING about the country other than what they can squeeze from it. They paid in, but not NEARLY what they are taking out. I am 50 and have paid in hugely as a sole-proprietor small business owner and I would be glad for reform to Medicare, Medicaid, and SS, even if it dented or delayed my benefits.
Everybody wants everything "fixed", but Dems have convinced people that they shouldn't have to make any sacrifices to do it. Just for their own gain and power.
Discouraging.
iluvredleather

Denver, CO

#37 May 25, 2011
And how Dems can stand by ObamaCare diverting millions from Medicare to Medicaid and then castigate Republicans is the ultimate hypocrisy.

We need to keep reminding people of that. But with the trough-feeders growing by leaps and bounds, that might not work any more.

Like I said, discouraging times for my kids.
Ex-GOP Con

Lyndhurst, NJ

#38 May 25, 2011
I agree. I love how Congress has votes to just to see how their fellow Congressman is going to vote on something. What a complete waste of taxpayer time. Shouldn't they instead be polling their constituents and vote according to how their constituents want them to vote?----not how their fellow GOP/Dem congressmen is going to vote?

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The right IS becoming deranged.
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Tony wrote:
party politics is the single most destructive situation, event, or thing that has ever been brought against Americans....
americans are too stupid to see what has happened to them.
Jane Says

Seaford, NY

#39 May 25, 2011
The Dems will CONTINUE TO LIE AND OBAMACARE WILL KILL GRANDMA.
Who Will End 'Medicare as we know it'?

In yesterday's special election for the 26th dist seat in western New York, Democrats used a tactic they're sure to use nationwide in 2012: the obscenely false claim that they will save "Medicare as we know it" from Republican efforts to reform it--AND VOTERS WERE FOOLED JUST AS THEY WERE IN 2008.

The truth is, OBAMACARE, passed by Dems last year, ALREADY EVISCERATED MEDICARE, though seniors won't feel the effects for some time. And the reform plan Democrats are attacking -- Rep. Paul Ryan's entitlement-reform vision--would undo much of the damage, while charting a new course to ensure Medicare doesn't run out of money.

"Medicare as we know it" can't survive OBAMACARE'S CUTS OF $575 BILLION from the program's funding over the next decade. Just as outrageous is that the Obama law stole $410 billion of those "savings" to expand eligibility for Medicaid.

It's like ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL-- but it's robbing Grandma to create a whole new class of government dependants. The nation needs to spend less on government, and entitlement reform is key.

Instead, the ObamaCare law starts new entitlements -- with its vast expansion of Medicaid and a new insurance program for the middle class, then imposes sacrifices on seniors to (partly) pay for these new obligations.

The administration's own actuaries say Medicare will spend $14,731 per senior in 2019, instead of $16,162 if the health law hadn't passed. That's less care for seniors. Richard Foster, the chief actuary for Medicare, testified to Congress that OBAMACARE MAKES SUCH SEVERE CUTS THAT SOME HOSPITALS MAY HAVE TO STOP TAKING MEDICARE.

Such cuts might be justifiable if the "savings" extended Medicare's financial life, as Obama & Health/Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius often claim. In fact, the Obama law just pays less to those who treat Medicare patients, then uses the cash for something else entirely. RAIDING MEDICARE LEAVES LESS $$ TO CARE FOR FUTURE RETIREES.

So what can that next generation, retiring 10 YRS from now count on? OBAMACARE puts decisions in the hands of an unelected board called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB--a A COST-CUTTING PANEL.

The board is a radical departure from Medicare as we've known it. On the pretext that budgeting decisions should be shielded from outraged seniors & political pressures, THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS HANDED NEARLY ALL CONTROL OF MEDICARE SPENDING TO IPAB. In April, OBAMA REITERATED THAT THE BOARD WOULD DECIDE WHAT CARE IS "UNNECESSARY FOR SENIORS" & ADDED THAT HE WANTS ITS UNPRECEDENTED POWERS INCREASED.

Last week, Obama indicated that he'd like to reduce the deficit by TAKING ANOTHER $2 BILLION over the next decade. That would be IPAB's job, too.

Yet IPAB is drawing fire from many who pushed hard for the ObamaCare law-including the AARP and Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.).
RYAN'S REFORM, passed by House Republicans early this year, WOULD repeal the ObamaCare law in full, thereby RESTORING the $575 stolen from Medicare & ending IPAB. But, to keep the program sustainable in the decades ahead, the Ryan plan would (STARTING IN 2022) GIVE EACH NEW MEDICARE ENROLLEE A CHOICE OF PRIVATE HEALTH PLANS & MEDICARE WOULD PAY A PREMIUM TO THE POLICY CHOSEN. He argues that seniors would be safer choosing their own health plan rather than putting their care in the hands of the cost-cutting IPAB panel.

Let's hope voters examine the plain facts -- because one thing is clear: OBAMA & THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ARE **** NOT SAVING MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT ****"

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolu...
Billy Ringo

Shady Side, MD

#40 May 25, 2011
Remember The Wasilla Quitta blabbering about Death Panels?

Were you complaining then?

LOL - the baggers are flipping out....... it started when Obama got Bin Laden, something their boy Shrub couldn't do.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#41 May 25, 2011
Jane Says wrote:
The Dems will CONTINUE TO LIE AND OBAMACARE WILL KILL GRANDMA.
Who Will End 'Medicare as we know it'?
In yesterday's special election for the 26th dist seat in western New York, Democrats used a tactic they're sure to use nationwide in 2012: the obscenely false claim that they will save "Medicare as we know it" from Republican efforts to reform it--AND VOTERS WERE FOOLED JUST AS THEY WERE IN 2008.
The truth is, OBAMACARE, passed by Dems last year, ALREADY EVISCERATED MEDICARE, though seniors won't feel the effects for some time. And the reform plan Democrats are attacking -- Rep. Paul Ryan's entitlement-reform vision--would undo much of the damage, while charting a new course to ensure Medicare doesn't run out of money.
"Medicare as we know it" can't survive OBAMACARE'S CUTS OF $575 BILLION from the program's funding over the next decade. Just as outrageous is that the Obama law stole $410 billion of those "savings" to expand eligibility for Medicaid.
It's like ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL-- but it's robbing Grandma to create a whole new class of government dependants. The nation needs to spend less on government, and entitlement reform is key.
Instead, the ObamaCare law starts new entitlements -- with its vast expansion of Medicaid and a new insurance program for the middle class, then imposes sacrifices on seniors to (partly) pay for these new obligations.
The administration's own actuaries say Medicare will spend $14,731 per senior in 2019, instead of $16,162 if the health law hadn't passed. That's less care for seniors. Richard Foster, the chief actuary for Medicare, testified to Congress that OBAMACARE MAKES SUCH SEVERE CUTS THAT SOME HOSPITALS MAY HAVE TO STOP TAKING MEDICARE.
Such cuts might be justifiable if the "savings" extended Medicare's financial life, as Obama & Health/Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius often claim. In fact, the Obama law just pays less to those who treat Medicare patients, then uses the cash for something else entirely. RAIDING MEDICARE LEAVES LESS $$ TO CARE FOR FUTURE RETIREES.
So what can that next generation, retiring 10 YRS from now count on? OBAMACARE puts decisions in the hands of an unelected board called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB--a A COST-CUTTING PANEL.
The board is a radical departure from Medicare as we've known it. On the pretext that budgeting decisions should be shielded from outraged seniors & political pressures, THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS HANDED NEARLY ALL CONTROL OF MEDICARE SPENDING TO IPAB. In April, OBAMA REITERATED THAT THE BOARD WOULD DECIDE WHAT CARE IS "UNNECESSARY FOR SENIORS" & ADDED THAT HE WANTS ITS UNPRECEDENTED POWERS INCREASED.
Last week, Obama indicated that he'd like to reduce the deficit by TAKING ANOTHER $2 BILLION over the next decade. That would be IPAB's job, too.
Yet IPAB is drawing fire from many who pushed hard for the ObamaCare law-including the AARP and Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.).
RYAN'S REFORM, passed by House Republicans early this year, WOULD repeal the ObamaCare law in full, thereby RESTORING the $575 stolen from Medicare & ending IPAB. But, to keep the program sustainable in the decades ahead, the Ryan plan would (STARTING IN 2022) GIVE EACH NEW MEDICARE ENROLLEE A CHOICE OF PRIVATE HEALTH PLANS & MEDICARE WOULD PAY A PREMIUM TO THE POLICY CHOSEN. He argues that seniors would be safer choosing their own health plan rather than putting their care in the hands of the cost-cutting IPAB panel.
Let's hope voters examine the plain facts -- because one thing is clear: OBAMA & THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ARE **** NOT SAVING MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT ****"
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolu...
You talk just like Faux News, and this nonsense has already been debunked. you've been programmed weel!

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#42 May 25, 2011
Billy Ringo wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean like a guy who has bilked Medicare out of millions of dollars - and then the people of Florida make him governor?
Bilked..........

hahahah Yep, the lib won by the DNC running a ringer posing as a teaparty member........it took 9% of the vote from the republican..........while the ringer attacked the republican instead of the liberal. She doesn't even live in the area she is representing. LIBERALS NEVER WIN ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

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