Obama to Congress: `Time for bickerin...

Obama to Congress: `Time for bickering is over'

There are 111 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Sep 9, 2009, titled Obama to Congress: `Time for bickering is over'. In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

Shaking off a summer of setbacks, President Barack Obama summoned Congress to enact sweeping health care legislation Wednesday night, declaring the "time for bickering is over" and the moment has arrived to protect millions who have unreliable insurance or no coverage at all.

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man bear pig

Altadena, CA

#1 Sep 9, 2009
Robin Hood AKA President Obama is out there "helping" the poor, helpless people who couldn't possibly do what he did. Work hard in school, get a good job, pay for their own insurance. Wasn't it just yesterday that he told kids to get an education, so they could have the good things in life? I guess he didn't mean healthcare.
Health Care Now

United States

#2 Sep 9, 2009
Health Care is a Human Right!!!
Smokin Joe Obama

Anchorage, AK

#4 Sep 10, 2009
Smoking
Joe is at it again smokin' those cigs like a now defunct automobile factory as he touts so called healthcare and blows smoke up Americans collective Kiester.
no sanctuary

Glendale, CA

#5 Sep 10, 2009
The Rep who called out 'you lie' was right. Enforcement provisions proposed by the Republicans were defeated on a party line vote so illegals cannot be denied free health care resources. Guess who will pay for those resources and who will be denied adequate care as a result? hint: elderly Americans.
Check out article in Wall Street Journal on the forced unionization of health care workers including doctors into the SEIU if this passes.
This legislation was written by lobbyists and is riddled with special interest goodies for the 'progressives' cronies and insiders, as was the pork filled 'stimulus'.
The 'robust public option' touted by Pelosi, Schiff, Chu and the rest of the far left Dems would ultimately destroy private health care plans, regardless of what Obama says, but then that is the leftists' goal.
Curtis Lowe

Montgomery, AL

#6 Sep 10, 2009
Why would congress invite a Kenyan National to talk about American healthcare?
urban city dweller

Covina, CA

#7 Sep 10, 2009
I would be 100% behind his healthcare plan on one condition, that it be mandatory inclusion of all politicians. If they have the exact same plan they want to give us, we will be fine!
urban city dweller

Covina, CA

#8 Sep 10, 2009
no sanctuary wrote:
The Rep who called out 'you lie' was right. Enforcement provisions proposed by the Republicans were defeated on a party line vote so illegals cannot be denied free health care resources. Guess who will pay for those resources and who will be denied adequate care as a result? hint: elderly Americans.
Check out article in Wall Street Journal on the forced unionization of health care workers including doctors into the SEIU if this passes.
This legislation was written by lobbyists and is riddled with special interest goodies for the 'progressives' cronies and insiders, as was the pork filled 'stimulus'.
The 'robust public option' touted by Pelosi, Schiff, Chu and the rest of the far left Dems would ultimately destroy private health care plans, regardless of what Obama says, but then that is the leftists' goal.
I do have to agree with this. They are covered now, who would believe they would not be included in his healthcare plan? After all, he is very vocal about legalizing illegals.
chuckles

Downey, CA

#9 Sep 10, 2009
his real name is barry sorento
chuckles

Downey, CA

#10 Sep 10, 2009
this guy is a stooge for the globalist banking elite. he is a puppet for the military industrial complex, and for walstreet. he is the anti-christ.
No One Important

Wayne, IL

#11 Sep 10, 2009
Good. Obama was using it like a campaign stunt, why couldn't Joe shout "You Lie!"

Why? Because the idiot politicians who like to surround themselves in all their pomp and circumstance and their self annointed importance?

Pfffffffff.....

Good for Joe for yelling out "You Lie!"

There is nothing in 3200 which challenges individuals to prove citizenship.

The amendment to specifically pay for abotions was DEFEATED by the democrats. If a bill is silent on a point, it is a presumed acceptance, and an exemptive position.

If it DOESN'T, then why did the DEMOCRATS REFUSE to allow the anti abortion amendment? Hmmmmm?

Look, lets face it. This idiot POTUS, like on climate change when he declared "there's no debate" (when CLEARLY the scientific community says there IS a debate).....

ANY time this childish POTUS doesn't like the way something is going for him, he wants to declare the debate OVER...

Thomas Sowell points out, if it is SO important, and SO GREAT for SO MANY, then why wait 4 years until AFTER the next presidential election to put the plan into motion.

If it ISN'T that important that it can wait 4 years, why CAN'T we take time then to have OPEN debates on the house floor, have OPEN negotiations and have the public discussion.

What's the rush then?

Common sense questions that Obama and the democrats should ANSWER FIRST, before they touch one single thing in our system.

Look, the democrats can't cope with what is happening. The nation is telling them NO again, just like in 1994.

And analysts have said, the ANGER out there is even MORE intense than in 1993 before the 1994 elections.

Obama didn't put anything new on the table, and he won't budge on the public option.

The ONLY thing left then is to DEFEAT it, and start over, and use OTHER plans because the one THEY have doesn't have the votes or the support of the nation.

The DEMOCRATS are becoming the "party of no" because they INSIST on the government option being involved, no matter what.

Eh, keep an eye on the polls...watch those independents.

They're so angry right now, they favor the GOP by 22 points. You don't put down a 22 poitn ANGER gap with more teleprompter blithering.
Miyamoto Musashi

Zurich, Switzerland

#12 Sep 10, 2009
Where Obama blows it... He used his speech to call legitimate criticism "lies"; someone calling him on his lies is fair.

1> He says that claims of end of life counseling, bureaucratic, desk to desk handling of a government controlled health care plan that specifically cut funding for Medicare, were lies concerning "his" plan. Trouble is the criticisms were indeed relevant until some of these proposals were removed from HR3200. So, they were not lies and if he includes such absurd proposals in "his" plan, he can expect similar exposure to the truth.

2> Obama claims that his new proposal of a public option will not increase a deficit, nor be a burden on taxpayers. This is slick slight of hand. He starts by specifically including an option for those "still unable to afford" insurance to receive tax rebates (free money, as the current "low income allowance" allows.) Thus, millions (who currently receive health care as needed) would be funded by the taxpayer to enlist in the public option. It doesn't matter how you shuffle the shells, that is an increase to the deficit. Further, this option would have to be available to small businesses that can not afford insurance for their employees. Thus, effectively and long term, such an option will indeed threaten the private insurance base, as more and more individuals and small businesses opt for the public option. As that new base of taxpayer assisted parties continues to expand, it will put a decreasing base for the private insurance industry, who will have to raise their rates, which will then continue to explode the number of parties advantaging the public option. It continues to be a planned, guaranteed and imposed failure of the currently (not 100%) workable private systems.

3> If Obama's particular new plan includes control over professional's income and ownership of property (he didn't mention that aberration in the current Democrat plan), his plan will still be seen as basically Communist in nature.

4> Obama mentioned tort reform, but took care to not make it a part of his health care plan. He's going to have somebodies "study" the issue. This shows the disingenuous nature of the Democrat Party, which is careful to continue protecting outrageous theft performed by some of their core supporters, like Gore's running mate.

Let's see some promised transparency (curiously denied to date) concerning "his" bill. Republicans have repeatedly tried to amend the current bill to not include illegal aliens and Obama promises tonight not to include illegals. He's consistently kowtowed to the radicals, even hiring a 9/11 Truther and giving him a vote for the commie Cap and Trade.

I'll quote Obama... "It's time for no more games."

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#13 Sep 10, 2009
RealDemocrat wrote:
Hussein Obama is a serial liar! Does anybody believe anything this guy says any more? Hey, are Sasha and Malia still going to a private school? He should have just gone and talked to them...
I guess you didn't watch Bush's speechs the last 8 years or some of Palin's speech's! Lying is a part of Goverment!
byebye

Whittier, CA

#14 Sep 10, 2009
what makes ANYONE think the Government can fix health care. they cant even properly run the post office, medicare, social security, the DMV,etc, and they can't even win a war in a third world country
(and thats not due to the troops on the ground its due to the politically correct politicions)
Wife

Monrovia, CA

#15 Sep 10, 2009
I have a question. My son, 21 years old, lives with us, no job, nothing. If everyone HAS to have coverage, who pays for his coverage? He does not have income at all, will not file a tax return, thus he will never have his wages garnished nor have his tax return garnished. Obama said everyone will have to sign up for something. Ok.....when he signs up, who will pay? And, I am interested to know what I will have to pay. Do I pay for my husband as well, who has no income? I am wondering if the costs will be similar to Cobra, which I cannot afford. And what about the illegals? They just walk into the emergency, what will stop them from just continuing that method?

Since: Apr 09

Whittier, CA

#16 Sep 10, 2009
OBAMA'S JOB IS TO KEEP US (THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) SAFE.... BUT HE'S NOT....RIGHT NOW THERE IS A WOMAN LAWYER FROM THE "ACLU" THAT HAS TAKEN PICTURES OF SOME CIA AGENTS TO GUINTANAMO BAY TO SEE IF ANY OF THE TERRORISTS RECOGNIZE THEM,THIS WOMAN HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THIS, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW, AND THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO "TAKE ACTION" WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER ATTACK.....
Marcus

Lytle Creek, CA

#17 Sep 10, 2009
Obama lied about illegal aliens getting taxpayer-funded health care, he knew he was lying, and it was fun to watch him get called out on it.
Observation

Glendora, CA

#18 Sep 10, 2009
Let me get this straight, the Obama Plan will ban Insurance Companies from denying coverage for pre-exisisting conditions, and will remove any caps on expenses incurred by those companies to pay claims for those pre-existing conditions. Wouldn't it make sense then that you take the least expensive plan available with the highest deuctible and simply sign on for a cadillac plan when you have an illness and let them pay for it. Then you can go back to your cheap insurance plan after the bills are paid. The cadillac plan could then raise rates on remaining and new customers or close-up their health insurance business. Sounds like existing insurance holders will pay through the nose in the form of higher rates to accommodate those who will game the system, or simply go out of business. But isn't that the Obama Plan to force migration to a Public Option?
Marcus

Lytle Creek, CA

#19 Sep 10, 2009
Wife wrote:
And what about the illegals? They just walk into the emergency, what will stop them from just continuing that method?
Nothing will stop them from continuing to use emergency rooms, and nothing will stop them from signing up for the public insurance plan, since the Democraps have repeatedly refused to include a provision in the bill to require proof of legal residency from those signing up for insurance. That is how Obama lied when he said that illegal aliens won't get taxpayer-funded insurance - he knows damn well there is nothing in the bill to keep them from getting it.

Since: Jan 09

Duarte, CA

#20 Sep 10, 2009
It was great to see Nancy "stretch" Pelosi and Joe Biden stare down poor Congressman Joe Wilson -a great moment indeed. He exposed another Obama lie.

The Fascist Democrats will become unglued and implode. The lie has been exposed for the nation to see and the Obama lies will come to light.

This president is a walking contradiction and this speech will not galvanize any support for this horrible healthcare bill.

The 1000 plus page bill will raise the deficit, kill business, destroy private healthcare/insurance, raise taxes and insure illegal aliens. Read it for yourself.

This bill, like the Amnesty Bill, is unworkable.

Since: Jan 09

Duarte, CA

#21 Sep 10, 2009
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in Hope and Change.

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