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GOP backs away from end-of-life counseling

There are 92 comments on the WQOW story from Aug 14, 2009, titled GOP backs away from end-of-life counseling. In it, WQOW reports that:

Until last week, Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson was among the most enthusiastic backers of end-of-life counseling in government health care programs like Medicare.

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Since: Jul 07

Satellite Beach, FL

#84 Aug 17, 2009
CTEd wrote:
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The part about the first 100 days... if he puts spending plans into place that increase the debt by 5T over his entire first term (putting him on par with Bush) then he didn't increase the debt by that much "in his first 100 days" he did it over his first term.
Your assertion would be like saying Bush increased the debt 5T on 9/12 2001 becuase he PLANNED to spend all that money on the Iraq war, so he increased the debt 5T in ONE DAY.
The claim is ludicrous. It's well after 100 days and the debt hasn't increased 4T. You allow for no mitigating circumstances such as new taxes, economic recovery, etc to offset any part of the planned deficit when you assert it has already happened.
Ok, I got it now. So what would be the correct phrase? He has already committed to increasing the debt by at least 5.5 trillion over the course of his presidency?

Regardless of how it's phrased and when the money we don't have is officially spent, the scary fact remains that multiple trillions will be added to an already critically oversized debt. This cannot be sustained but yet there is no end in sight to the deficit spending. Because the debt ballooned under Bush is not justification for Obama to accelerate it.

Since: Apr 09

Indianapolis

#85 Aug 17, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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Yes.
Sharp automotive observers like Ed Wallace of Businessweek and Inside Automotive point out that most of the sales appear to have gone to consumers who were going to buy a new car anyway.
So over a three month average auto sales due to the Clunkers program will not go up very much if at all.
Obama controls a major car company but he really doesn't know anything about the car business.
They were going to buy anyway? LMAO.
Right. And economy and healthcare will all fix themselves too.

Since: Mar 09

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#86 Aug 19, 2009
Common Sense Isnt wrote:
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Ok, I got it now. So what would be the correct phrase? He has already committed to increasing the debt by at least 5.5 trillion over the course of his presidency?
Regardless of how it's phrased and when the money we don't have is officially spent, the scary fact remains that multiple trillions will be added to an already critically oversized debt. This cannot be sustained but yet there is no end in sight to the deficit spending. Because the debt ballooned under Bush is not justification for Obama to accelerate it.
That's much more honest - saying because of his plans/spending the debt is PROJECTED to increase by X amount by the end of his first term.

Saying he increased the debt 4T in his first 100 days suggests that money is spent, and everything else in the news is IN ADDITION to that 4T when that is very far from the truth.

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Dallas, TX

#87 Aug 20, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
<quoted text>They were going to buy anyway? LMAO.
Right. And economy and healthcare will all fix themselves too.
I suppose it's academic since Obama has so mismanaged the Cash for Clunkers that he's stiffed most of the car dealers by not paying them the money owed to them.

But yeah, many buyers were holding off untill they could get the extra money for their trade in.

I can't speak for healthcre where there are some problems we can address, but beyond TARP I think the economy would have fixed itself with just tax cuts to stimulate it.

It's not really Obama's fault I suppose.

After all, what does a failed community organizer who never had a job in the private sector know about the free market?

Since: Apr 09

Indianapolis

#88 Aug 20, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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I suppose it's academic since Obama has so mismanaged the Cash for Clunkers that he's stiffed most of the car dealers by not paying them the money owed to them.
But yeah, many buyers were holding off untill they could get the extra money for their trade in.
I can't speak for healthcre where there are some problems we can address, but beyond TARP I think the economy would have fixed itself with just tax cuts to stimulate it.
It's not really Obama's fault I suppose.
After all, what does a failed community organizer who never had a job in the private sector know about the free market?
P-l-lease. The auto dealers ran through the first Billion in a week. Many waiting didn't file correctly.

Many dealers had buyers brought in by the clunker campaign whose cars didn't qualify but bought none-the-less.

Name the last successful free-market experienced President.

Advisors Volker, Summers, Geithner et al...that would be their roles.

And Obama worked for a market based law firm like many former Presidents.

You need some new grist for that mill you're running.

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Dallas, TX

#89 Aug 20, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
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P-l-lease. The auto dealers ran through the first Billion in a week. Many waiting didn't file correctly.
Many dealers had buyers brought in by the clunker campaign whose cars didn't qualify but bought none-the-less.
Name the last successful free-market experienced President.
Advisors Volker, Summers, Geithner et al...that would be their roles.
And Obama worked for a market based law firm like many former Presidents.
You need some new grist for that mill you're running.
A billion dollars in a week is chump change in todays economy.

This was a typical government program where droopy-eyed government employees with tenure had no vested interest in efficeny.

They get paid the same whether Cash for Clunkers crashes or not.

If the ObamaMobiles were being sold through the Post Office sales would have been so low they would probably still be on the first million of the first billion.

But the car dealers exist in the free market where go-getters are rewarded and the lazy get nothing.

Obama gave us the best example that he and his flunkies are not qualified to run our healthcare system.

Since: Apr 09

Indianapolis

#90 Aug 21, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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A billion dollars in a week is chump change in todays economy.
This was a typical government program where droopy-eyed government employees with tenure had no vested interest in efficeny.
They get paid the same whether Cash for Clunkers crashes or not.
If the ObamaMobiles were being sold through the Post Office sales would have been so low they would probably still be on the first million of the first billion.
But the car dealers exist in the free market where go-getters are rewarded and the lazy get nothing.
Obama gave us the best example that he and his flunkies are not qualified to run our healthcare system.
Those swifty nifty auto dealers?
They LOVED Cash -For-Clunkers....

Knoxville car dealers praise Cash for Clunkers program

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/aug/02/0802...

Local auto dealers praise 'cash for clunkers', await payments

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/2... -

Portland auto dealers continue clunker deals despite worries

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/...

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Dallas, TX

#91 Aug 21, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
<quoted text> Those swifty nifty auto dealers?
They LOVED Cash -For-Clunkers....
Knoxville car dealers praise Cash for Clunkers program
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/aug/02/0802...
Local auto dealers praise 'cash for clunkers', await payments
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/2... -
Portland auto dealers continue clunker deals despite worries
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/...
They don't love it very much when Obama is stiffing them on the cash.

The check's in the mail, huh?

Some dealers with deep pockets might be able to afford to tote the note for Obama.

But many others need their money sooner and have dropped out of the program.

Again, this is an example of why we should not turn our healthcare over to those incompetents in the federal government.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

United States

#92 Aug 23, 2009
Seeking truth wrote:
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Said the laughing anal sphincter passing more gas and lies.
You would know

Since: Apr 09

Indianapolis

#93 Aug 31, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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They don't love it very much when Obama is stiffing them on the cash.
The check's in the mail, huh?
Some dealers with deep pockets might be able to afford to tote the note for Obama.
But many others need their money sooner and have dropped out of the program.
Again, this is an example of why we should not turn our healthcare over to those incompetents in the federal government.
Many dealers were offering an additional $4500 of their own and they are continuing to offer it now that the program is over.

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Dallas, TX

#94 Sep 3, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
<quoted text>Many dealers were offering an additional $4500 of their own and they are continuing to offer it now that the program is over.
I really doubt and dealer are doing anything like that.

The dealers do not have $4,500 markup in most cars to offer that as their own personal Cash for Clunkers program.

BTW, did you notice that the two car companies owned by Obama (GM and Chrysler) showed no rise in sales while the free car companies (Ford, Toyota and Honda) did?

http://blog.taragana.com/n/us-auto-sales-boos...

Very few Obamamobiles left the dealers lot while plenty of other makes posted sales increases.

Since: Apr 09

Indianapolis

#95 Sep 11, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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I really doubt and dealer are doing anything like that.
The dealers do not have $4,500 markup in most cars to offer that as their own personal Cash for Clunkers program.
BTW, did you notice that the two car companies owned by Obama (GM and Chrysler) showed no rise in sales while the free car companies (Ford, Toyota and Honda) did?
http://blog.taragana.com/n/us-auto-sales-boos...
Very few Obamamobiles left the dealers lot while plenty of other makes posted sales increases.
GM said Tuesday it would add 60,000 vehicles to its production schedule in the third and fourth quarters and bring back about 1,350 laid-off workers. The company now plans to make 535,000 cars and trucks during July-September.

That would amount to a 35 percent increase from the depressed second quarter, while production in the final three months of the year will rise another 20 percent.

"Our dealers are clamoring for more vehicles in almost every segment," said Mark LaNeve, vice president of U.S. sales. "We're getting extremely short on a number of our products."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090818/ap_on_bi_...

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