`Time for bickering is over'

`Time for bickering is over'

There are 87 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Sep 9, 2009, titled `Time for bickering is over'. In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

Shaking off a summer of setbacks, President Barack Obama summoned Congress to enact sweeping health care legislation Wednesday night, declaring the "time for bickering is over" and the moment has arrived to protect millions who have unreliable insurance or no coverage at all.

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Gab

“Surrounded by Libs.”

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#90 Sep 19, 2009
Oh really wrote:
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Please avoid telling me what I "fail to understand" when you entirely ignore one of my two posts. That post explained roots causes of the insurance system's costs that you clearly don't appreciate.
The government, in collusion with big pharma and the insurance industry, is the reason costs are high. More government has never lowered costs and it certainly won't now.
In point of historical fact, it was a misguided government program that created the giant health insurance industry during World War II. Prior to that, there was very little health insurance, health care costs were quite low and service was excellent.(Remember house calls?)
The are many, viable solutions to health care costs. Neither you nor President Obama are considering any than single payer government health care. That one is unviable.
Also, you do not understand pre-existing conditions, period. Nothing you describe is legally permissible.
I don't understand your "democratic process" question and therefore cannot answer it.
Most states only have one state health care option.
This leads to price fixing,never in the consumers interest.
Why not have several options including crossing state lines for coverage?
This would eliminate the geographical monopoly and lower prices and increase services.
Having a national health care provider would only further shrink,or eliminate,the already dismal options we have thanks to over regulation.
Oh really

Long Beach, CA

#91 Sep 19, 2009
Constitution wrote:
<quoted text>What is verifiable is that the democrats, courtesy of Howard Dean, are on record stating that they do not wish to take on the trial lawyers. It does not seem as if the politicians are doing everything they can to work for our best interests and on our behalf, does it? Maybe, just maybe, this is more about political control of health care, and not health care itself?
Exactly! Trial lawyers are huge Dem. contributors. Therefore current tort law is a sacred cow. Same with the American Medical Association (AMA). Why is it we can only get health care from an expensive physician? Nurses are plenty adequate for many maladies, and they're much cheaper. What about all the training our armed services invest in medics? They have handled medical situations in the most extreme conditions -- the battlefield. None are college graduates, many are high school drop outs. Yet, when they leave the service, they are legally prohibited from providing medical care. Medics and nurses ought to be allowed to practice limited forms of medicine. This would expand care and lower costs.

Insurance companies are required to offer many kinds of "health" coverage. This raises costs for all insurance policies, therefore all insureds. This prices many people out of the market. If customers were allowed to buy only the insurance they wanted instead of what big government says they must be sold, many problems would go away.

The laws that politicians say "protect" us actually raise costs and expand government power. Neither benefit the public health or the economy.
Oh really

Long Beach, CA

#92 Sep 19, 2009
Swimmaven wrote:
Healthcare should be non-profit.
If you can't control yourself, then the government will.
Swimmaven, sorry, but no corporation is non-profit, including the nonprofit corporations. It's just a silly label, masking reality from the financially unsophisticated.
Oh really

Long Beach, CA

#93 Sep 19, 2009
Bub wrote:
<quoted text>Food is just as important, maybe moreso even. So let's make all of the grocery stores non-profit while we're at it. And we need places to live so let's pass a law that nobody can make a profit when they sell their house. Gee we're making the world a better place aren't we? Kumbaya... kumbaya.
By golly, you're right! Those r*ats are charging us for drinking water! Down with government price gouging of drinking water. Ha!
Oh really

Long Beach, CA

#94 Sep 19, 2009
an american wrote:
well if you disagree you are either bickering or you are racist so how do you convey your opinion?
You're not allowed to. Tolerance and diversity stop short of permitting different thoughts and opinions.
Oh really

Long Beach, CA

#95 Sep 19, 2009
Gab wrote:
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Most states only have one state health care option.
This leads to price fixing,never in the consumers interest.
Why not have several options including crossing state lines for coverage?
This would eliminate the geographical monopoly and lower prices and increase services.
Having a national health care provider would only further shrink,or eliminate,the already dismal options we have thanks to over regulation.
Agreed!
Ed Solis

Long Beach, CA

#96 Sep 20, 2009
When the far left and the racist chicanos took over the State Dem Party we let them destroy our once top rated public schools.

Why does anyone think we will have the character or the integrity to object to Health Care being compromised for our families?

It is always good to expect the slimiest, seediest, most destructive behavior from today's version of State Democratic politicians. Disagree? Think about the ramification of a State Deficit which totals more than all the State Deficits of the other 49 States combined.

It didn't take any rascally Repubs to destroy our kids future. Dems used our Dem majority in the State to destroy any hope for a bright future for our own kids.

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