Union leader defends state-run liquor sales

There are 23 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Mar 28, 2011, titled Union leader defends state-run liquor sales. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Pennsylvania's state-owned liquor and wine stores do a better job collecting taxes, enforcing the drinking age and offering a broad selection of products at competitive prices than private operators would, the head of the largest state-store employee union said Monday.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The York Daily Record.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
John

Dover, PA

#1 Mar 28, 2011
What a joke, you should be able to walk in wal-Mart and buy beer ect. The state stores, and beer distributors should be a thing of the past!! Maryland you can buy anything in durg stores, gas stations ect.
Tom

Etters, PA

#2 Mar 28, 2011
That Union creep only has one interest. Protecting his silly Union. This con man did not illustrate one bit of proof to substantiate his claims. Typical.
john doe 000069

York, PA

#3 Mar 28, 2011
Mr. Young is nothing more than a mobster. I can't wait until the state stores are sold and you can by anything you want to at Wal-fart. Since why should a store clerk be apart of a union anyway?

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#4 Mar 28, 2011
I've lived in PA. Lived in Illinois for a lt of years where you can buy any form of legal liquor in grocery stores, drug stores and corner fast mart gas stations.
Now I live in a state where you have to buy hard liquor in a state store and I can tell you, they have the lousiest selection I've ever seen.

State stores exits for one reason only..... government meddling in moral affairs. They are an anachronism that should have been buried decades ago.
Another

Felton, PA

#5 Mar 28, 2011
"Pennsylvania's state-owned liquor and wine stores do a better job collecting taxes, enforcing the drinking age and offering a broad selection of products at competitive prices than private operators would, the head of the largest state-store employee union said Monday." Bullsh!t. Privatize now and everybody wins except the union snooks that this chump is pimping for!
Realist

York, PA

#6 Mar 28, 2011
Have any of you thought about the fact that the money these state stores bring in are paying for part of our state budget?
jim felton

Red Lion, PA

#7 Mar 29, 2011
i work in maryland And Even If I Didn', I Would Drive There When I need To stock Up On Beer & Booze!! For Example The Beer I Drink, Here In Pa Almost Twenty Two Bucks a case, Oh Yea Fifty Cents More If You Want It c3old!!! In Maryland same Beer Fourteen Bucks Cold Or Warm
jfk

Dover, PA

#8 Mar 29, 2011
Realist wrote:
Have any of you thought about the fact that the money these state stores bring in are paying for part of our state budget?
So are the costs of running the stores and paying union employees. No thanks. Not needed. Cut government now.
Chronic Iguana

Cape Coral, FL

#9 Mar 29, 2011
"Young, president of Local 1776 of the United Food and Commercial Workers, said experience in other states suggests most of the liquor licenses would be bought by convenience stores and similarly small enterprises that would offer a limited selection at high prices."

Translation: Instead of a government-run monopoly, we would have independent retailers competing for your business. Those that offer a limited selection at high prices would soon go out of business.
two sides

Wilmington, DE

#10 Mar 29, 2011
Chronic Iguana wrote:
"Young, president of Local 1776 of the United Food and Commercial Workers, said experience in other states suggests most of the liquor licenses would be bought by convenience stores and similarly small enterprises that would offer a limited selection at high prices."
Translation: Instead of a government-run monopoly, we would have independent retailers competing for your business. Those that offer a limited selection at high prices would soon go out of business.
The government does everything.g in its power to keep companies from becoming monopolys bit yet run one themselves.

Ok let's play fair let's open a privatly owned store in pa just like the liquor stores in Md and see who does better. I would givethe state stores 6 months
Tom

Etters, PA

#11 Mar 29, 2011
Realist wrote:
Have any of you thought about the fact that the money these state stores bring in are paying for part of our state budget?
And the high taxes(sin tax) would still go to the State Budget. The only difference is that they would'nt have to pay the overhead to run the establishments and pay Union employees. Think about it. Plus, they will more than likely collect more revenue now since there will be many more venues to purchase the products. This archaic system we have now is inefficient and just plain stupid!. I don't see the bars, Taverns and Beer distributors struggling. They do just fine. Plus, no silly Unions are involved either. Plus, the more venues that sell wine and spirits will more than likely have to pay a high licensing fee to do so. There is even more revenue. This privitizing idea is a no-brainer for generating a steady stream of revenue to the State coffers.
The Answer Man

Dover, PA

#13 Mar 29, 2011
28 states have a lower percentage of underage drinkers than PA. Maryland, New Jersey, Virginie, Ohio, and even DC do a better job then the State stores at keeping the booze away from kids.
Chronic Iguana

Cape Coral, FL

#14 Mar 30, 2011
The Answer Man wrote:
28 states have a lower percentage of underage drinkers than PA. Maryland, New Jersey, Virginie, Ohio, and even DC do a better job then the State stores at keeping the booze away from kids.
Of course. Think about it. The LCB contends its state stores do a better job of reducing sales to minors. By busting state store clerks for selling to minors, the LCB is defeating its own argument. The LCB benefits by looking the other way when it comes to its own people and its own stores.

Yeah, I know the state police handle enforcement. But ...
Tom

Etters, PA

#15 Mar 30, 2011
Chronic Iguana wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course. Think about it. The LCB contends its state stores do a better job of reducing sales to minors. By busting state store clerks for selling to minors, the LCB is defeating its own argument. The LCB benefits by looking the other way when it comes to its own people and its own stores.
Yeah, I know the state police handle enforcement. But ...
Exactly!
John

Allentown, PA

#16 Mar 30, 2011
Unions provide a better service.
Non-union people have no sense, they would run our stores into the ground.

Walmart states stores, really, cheap chinese wine.
red

Harrisburg, PA

#18 Mar 30, 2011
OMG, you people always are whining about selection! Do you really think every one of the new private will carry the 2000-6000 items the average store carries now? How many items do you want them to carry 10,000 20,000 really how many really big stores are like that probably a few, but what your going to get its 100s of stores with 300 items with 3 or 4 bottles of each item on the shelf! IF ya need a case you still might halfta drive to a couple different stores anyway, plus the beer store cause they aren't cchanging that part

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#19 Mar 30, 2011
red wrote:
OMG, you people always are whining about selection! Do you really think every one of the new private will carry the 2000-6000 items the average store carries now? How many items do you want them to carry 10,000 20,000 really how many really big stores are like that probably a few, but what your going to get its 100s of stores with 300 items with 3 or 4 bottles of each item on the shelf! IF ya need a case you still might halfta drive to a couple different stores anyway, plus the beer store cause they aren't cchanging that part
Illinois has drug stores with a bigger & better selection of wines and spirits than any state store I've ever been in.
red

Harrisburg, PA

#20 Mar 30, 2011
So thats not going to change here,the selection will be bout 500 items or so in your average RITE AID if they get them. Your saying all your drug stores even in the the small towns not just chicago CARRY 2000-6000 items? Really? The selection is probably just different not better! no store can carry every item made and even with internet sales included some things even with private stores you will never get!no matter what state ur in !

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#21 Mar 30, 2011
red wrote:
So thats not going to change here,the selection will be bout 500 items or so in your average RITE AID if they get them. Your saying all your drug stores even in the the small towns not just chicago CARRY 2000-6000 items? Really? The selection is probably just different not better! no store can carry every item made and even with internet sales included some things even with private stores you will never get!no matter what state ur in !
Liquor stores in Chicago are just insane. There are nearly 600 of them.
Here is one of 587 such places.
http://www.warehouseliquors.com/

I was speaking of towns with a population of less than 80,000.
Schnuck's, a grocery store in Bloomington, IL (pop. 73,000) has a liquor department that is easily 4 times the size of the local state store.
Walgreen's has a store devoted entirely to liquor.
Osco Drug store has a liquor selection about half of the Schnuck's.

Maybe this will help put things in perspective.....

Name something the government runs better than private enterprise.
now-what

Kingston, PA

#22 Mar 30, 2011
Realist wrote:
Have any of you thought about the fact that the money these state stores bring in are paying for part of our state budget?
The money these stores bring in doesn't even pay the rent or the union members pensions. The pa taxpayer loses money on every bottle sold in this system.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Bill Young Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Election Day Rituals: Movies, Meals and Mass (Nov '14) Nov '14 Le Jimbo 32
News Police remove Sheehan from Bush speech (Feb '06) Oct '14 Swedenforever 6
News Park Boulevard may become the latest memorial t... (Mar '14) May '14 broke 3
News A fight in Fla. for national bragging rights (Feb '14) May '14 Penny 14
News Republicans won the Florida special election. H... (Mar '14) Mar '14 about that 33
News Florida Election Tests Midterm Messaging (Mar '14) Mar '14 wild child 1
News Florida election a bellwether for fall U.S. mid... (Mar '14) Mar '14 Cat74 20
More from around the web