FBI steps into case of gay candidate'...

FBI steps into case of gay candidate's homicide

There are 19 comments on the Wausau Daily Herald story from Mar 7, 2013, titled FBI steps into case of gay candidate's homicide. In it, Wausau Daily Herald reports that:

The FBI will investigate last week's homicide of an openly gay mayoral candidate here as a possible hate crime, the agency said.

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“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#1 Mar 7, 2013
Perhaps now, with the FBI involved, we will get a better handle on what actually happened. Hate crime or not, all that matters is that the truth come out, and that the murderer, whoever it may be, be tried and punished.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#4 Mar 7, 2013
I think the identity of the murderer has been well-established. The motive and circumstances need to be determined.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Mar 7, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
I think the identity of the murderer has been well-established. The motive and circumstances need to be determined.
While I agree with that, I fail to see how the F.B.I. has any jurisdiction or legal interest at all in what appears to be a simple case of murder.

Since: Mar 09

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#6 Mar 7, 2013
When a crime involves a candidate in an election, or sitting politician, it becomes a Federal case usually under the authority and direction of the Secret Service assisted by the FBI. The Hate Crime Statute is just added punch in this case.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Mar 7, 2013
snyper wrote:
When a crime involves a candidate in an election, or sitting politician, it becomes a Federal case usually under the authority and direction of the Secret Service assisted by the FBI. The Hate Crime Statute is just added punch in this case.
What you're saying is ridiculously untrue. Just because a homicide victim happened to be running for public office does not automatically make his murder a federal offense.

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#8 Mar 7, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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What you're saying is ridiculously untrue. Just because a homicide victim happened to be running for public office does not automatically make his murder a federal offense.
That's not what I posted. It becomes a Federal matter for investigation. That there might have been a hate crime component only adds to the need for Federal investigation.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Mar 7, 2013
snyper wrote:
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That's not what I posted. It becomes a Federal matter for investigation. That there might have been a hate crime component only adds to the need for Federal investigation.
Look, I hopt the murderer of this man is brought to justice, and hopefully executed for terrible crime.

But just because a victim is black, and/or gay and/or any other demographic, does not make it a crime worthy of federal investiagtion or prosecution.

It's people like you who want the federal government involved in every single aspect of our lives. As one of our MOST beloved Presidents often said: "Government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem." (I think President Washington said that in his 1789 Inaugural Address.)

Since: Mar 09

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#10 Mar 7, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Look, I hopt the murderer of this man is brought to justice, and hopefully executed for terrible crime.
But just because a victim is black, and/or gay and/or any other demographic, does not make it a crime worthy of federal investiagtion or prosecution.
It's people like you who want the federal government involved in every single aspect of our lives. As one of our MOST beloved Presidents often said: "Government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem." (I think President Washington said that in his 1789 Inaugural Address.)
Whenever a candidate is threatened or harmed or killed, there is always the possibility of "interfering with elections".

Now is it clearer to you why the Fed must become involved?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Mar 7, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Whenever a candidate is threatened or harmed or killed, there is always the possibility of "interfering with elections".
Now is it clearer to you why the Fed must become involved?
No. Elections are PURELY state matters. Try reading the U.S. Constitution some time, particularly teh Bill Of Rights.

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#12 Mar 7, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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No. Elections are PURELY state matters. Try reading the U.S. Constitution some time, particularly teh Bill Of Rights.
Interference with an election, like Jury Tampering, Subborning Witnesses, Interference with Judges, Bribery of Elected Officials, etc. is a Federal crime.

I suspect that those particular Codes are considered to derive their authority from various Acts of Congress, and persuant to parts of the U.S. Constitution.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 Mar 7, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Interference with an election, like Jury Tampering, Subborning Witnesses, Interference with Judges, Bribery of Elected Officials, etc. is a Federal crime.
I suspect that those particular Codes are considered to derive their authority from various Acts of Congress, and persuant to parts of the U.S. Constitution.
"Jury Tampering, Subborning Witnesses, Interference with Judges, Bribery of Elected Officials, etc." is NOT necesserily a federal crime.

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#14 Mar 7, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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"Jury Tampering, Subborning Witnesses, Interference with Judges, Bribery of Elected Officials, etc." is NOT necesserily a federal crime.
It is. They may, as with murder, allow it to be handled locally.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#15 Mar 7, 2013
snyper wrote:
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It is. They may, as with murder, allow it to be handled locally.
If jury-tampering is alleged in a state cout, thne it is ia STATE matter. NOT a federal matter. Why don't you call the FBI and ask them ?

Do you have ANY concept of "federalism" ?!

Not EVERYTHING IS, nor can EVERYTHING BE MADE, a federal matter.

Since: Mar 09

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#16 Mar 7, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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If jury-tampering is alleged in a state cout, thne it is ia STATE matter. NOT a federal matter. Why don't you call the FBI and ask them ?
Do you have ANY concept of "federalism" ?!
Not EVERYTHING IS, nor can EVERYTHING BE MADE, a federal matter.
Wherever it is suspected that the local system might be corrupt, it's a Federal matter. When a politician is killed, it's an automatic look-see.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 Mar 7, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Wherever it is suspected that the local system might be corrupt, it's a Federal matter. When a politician is killed, it's an automatic look-see.
No, it's NOT !

Since: Mar 09

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#18 Mar 7, 2013
w/e

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#19 Mar 7, 2013
Pierre wrote:
Look at it on the good side, the world is less one more queer!!
That's what we all said when they found your old whore mother beaten to death by her pimp for not turning enough tricks. Too bad it didn't happen before she whelped you in some alley.

I hope your chewing and clawing your way out of her hole destroyed it so she can't produce any more monsters like you.

“”

Since: Sep 09

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#20 Mar 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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No, it's NOT !
I actually emailed the state attorney and a fed gvmt agency yesterday. Wanted to ask if this was going to be treated as a hate crime because I feel it is ,the local Miami Cuban attorney (Kathleen Rundle) would never suggest it and yes you know I do not like the people I call "Miami" Cubans and as time goes by starting to dislike Hispanics period.

"Homeless Man Beaten With Cane Outside Miami Gas Station"

Miami Police said the homeless person tried to shield themselves from the attack but eventually fell down on the ground. The witness told police the beating continued until the cane broke and then the attacker, who police believe was Alba, began to kick the homeless person in the back, chest, and head.

According to police, Alba described what led to the beating.The guy was talking and saying things to me in English I didnt understand. He went to get up and I grabbed his cane and hit him a few times with it.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/homeless...
The Rogue

Olive Branch, MS

#21 Mar 9, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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No, it's NOT !
Get your "que@r azz" off this forum, for that matter, off this earth.

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