Nancy Pelosi's health-care reform les...

Nancy Pelosi's health-care reform lesson: You can't always get ...

There are 113 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Oct 30, 2009, titled Nancy Pelosi's health-care reform lesson: You can't always get .... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Even before her bill reaches the House floor, health care reform has been a lesson in the limits of power for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi - and in the immense challenge of managing disappointment on the left.

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“I'm not nuts. Just different”

Since: Mar 08

Cheswold, Delaware.

#110 Nov 9, 2009
Larry wrote:
I am going out to the employee parking lot and fire everyone who has an Obama sticker on their car.
Now that's just wrong.
Trixie

AOL

#111 Nov 9, 2009
Obama is a muslim.
Wheelchair Charley

Garfield, MN

#112 Nov 10, 2009
In the words of Reverand Wright's disciples Obama and his side kick Pelosi; "not god bless american god dam america."

“Results, one vote at a time!”

Since: Dec 06

Oklahoma City, OK

#113 Nov 10, 2009
badgerone wrote:
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I'm sure all that money your buddy Obuma gave to the people on welfare went real well to stimulate the economy...Liquor Stores...Drug Dealers.
But as a so called Irish Dumbocrat you would be to blind drunk to see that.
If you would do some research you would see that "entitlements" actually do stimulate the economy far better than tax cuts for the wealthy. "Trickle Down" does not work. Here's the skinny of it: If you give food stamps to a welfare recipient, they are not going to put them in the bank. They are going to spend them. Pure and simple. That goes into the economy. I think it was Forbes magazine or money that did a big article on this when the Stimulus Bills were being passed. I'll look for it and paste the link.
FUBO

Minneapolis, MN

#114 Nov 10, 2009
Latest Gallup poll on health care:

Americans have moved in a more negative direction on the basic issue of whether a new bill should be passed into law. Thirty-eight percent now say they would advise their member of Congress to vote against a new healthcare bill this year, while 29% would advise their member to vote for it, and about a third have no opinion. When those with no opinion are asked which way they lean, the verdict becomes 48% "against," and 43% "for." Both of these results are more negative than those from early October.

Forget the number who say "vote against." Compare the number who say "vote for" to those with no opinion. From +15 to -4 in … one month.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/healthplan.p...

Lousy Pelousy

Minneapolis, MN

#115 Nov 10, 2009
Who is Nancy LeaMond? That's what I wanted to know after watching AARP's Exec. VP defending her organization's endorsement of ObamaCare to Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe.

Click, Wikipedia, click: whaddayaknow? Turns out that before coming to AARP, LeaMond was a senior Clinton administration appointee and a top Dem congressional staffer. Surprise, surprise!

AARP members, when you call AARP to cancel your membership (1-888-OUR-AARP, 1-888-687-2277) demand your remaining dues back. They have to refund money for the remaining years of payment. It will cost them more to refund it than you will likely get, but that’s the idea.

calvin

Minneapolis, MN

#116 Nov 10, 2009
Let's see,

Health care is 16% of our economy and the insurance companies believe that 25% of that is their rightful due in annual profit.

Like any private enterprise, the most common way they can increase their annual profit is to increase sales. This guarantees annual increases in our total health care layout.

Saying anything else is counter intuitive to how any private business operates. Most hospitals are non-profit, most clinics are non-profit with a common goal of delivering the best care they can.

The insurance industry has a common goal of maximizing their take of our health care dollars by lobbying to keep their non-competitive world in place.

Look at what competition does in a real world industry like consumer electronics: what did you get for your personal computer dollar in 1990 versus now?

The insurance industry needs to be taken to the wood shed and beaten to within an inch of it's life.
Judge Isaac Parker

Titusville, FL

#117 Nov 11, 2009
Don't you just love Clinton (Bubba, not "Cankles")and pals all talking about the need to pass the bill for political power instead of what's best for the country?
Stupid Gubment

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#118 Nov 12, 2009
I hate to say this, but profit is an incentive to innovation. If we socialize health care, there will be no real research into new methods, etc. What would be the incentive of government to do so when it would only cost them more money if the new procedures were implemented? However, if a company can profit from the research, there is an incentive to do it. I don't know what the best answer to the health czre issue is, but I know the current health care bill, as passed by the House, is not it.
Cole

Eau Claire, WI

#119 Nov 12, 2009
You wonder why they want these bills passed now? Clinton says to hurry and pass it, Pelosi, Obama, Reid. We're just now starting to uncover stuff in the Stimulus Bill that seems very fishy.

There are CER councils initiated in the stimulus bill (HR 1). I don't know a lot about it, just starting to do research but I want to know why there was health care reform amendments for Comparative Effectiveness Research in a STIMULUS bill. This is starting to sound just like England's "NICE" program.
Kevin

Saint Paul, MN

#120 Nov 13, 2009
All of this banter is fine. Reason being, the senate will not pass the same bill that the house did. They will make their modifications, pass it, and send it back to the house, who will make further mofifications...etc, etc, etc. You see where this is going? By the time all is said and done, we'll probably have a bill appropriating funding for a new highway instead of health scare. Thankfully. My answer is...go get a job that provides health care. I went to college (with no help from anyone, mind you-I paid my own way with loans and -gasp- working and saving! I'm sick and tired of these ghetto people who have their hand out. Go to college and get a job that provides health insurance!!! God, I hate laziness and people with a sense of entitlement. I just hope that everyone who said on Obammy's election nite "I ain't gots to worry 'bout my rent no mo'...I ain't gots to worry 'bout my food stamps" is happy now when they have less drug money than they did before.
Kevin

Saint Paul, MN

#121 Nov 13, 2009
Okay, the liberal sensors are out in force today...the stars in my above post are for my nickname for Obama.
Rod Jeremy

Titusville, FL

#122 Nov 13, 2009
Does the bill cover Nancy's silicone Ta-Tas redo?

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