96th/Keystone roundabout mapped out

96th/Keystone roundabout mapped out

There are 55 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 7, 2008, titled 96th/Keystone roundabout mapped out. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

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You Be Illing

Marysville, OH

#41 Feb 10, 2008
Stuart Kinney wrote:
I never seem to have trouble getting through this intersection. If it is a busy time for the intersection, and I must go through it, I take 98th to a street (Haverstick?) and then to 96th so that I can turn right to go south on Keystone.
I NEVER have trouble going north on Keystone, to my home in beautiful Home Place. Really, one must navigate in street traffic, and that takes thought and planning.
Hoosier/Home Place resident,(Not ONE cent for this graftabout!)
But,,,but,,,but-they HAVE to change it! Didn't you know the Carmel Residents are TOO BUSY to have to wait at stop lights? That's why MILLIONS of dollars (whose we still are not sure about) are being spent so they can get to their IMPORTANT places sooner!
Stuart Kinney

Chicago, IL

#42 Feb 10, 2008
You Be Illing wrote:
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But,,,but,,,but-they HAVE to change it! Didn't you know the Carmel Residents are TOO BUSY to have to wait at stop lights? That's why MILLIONS of dollars (whose we still are not sure about) are being spent so they can get to their IMPORTANT places sooner!
Clear! So.. with a $400 billion federal deficit, and with the state projected revenues $45 million under for the first two months of '08, me and the other graftpayers will fork over $120 million for .. terrrorism, a better military, border security,..nah!! We're building the Mike Flyn Expressway, complete with six elevated graftabouts!

I used to end by saying "Carmel, I can't afford you!". Now, it's "Carmel, AMERICA can't afford you!!"

I'm Stuart Kinney and I approve this message (and hope that "You be Illing" gets much needed medical treatment!)
Stuart Kinney

Chicago, IL

#43 Feb 10, 2008
I apologize for the ending "You be Illing" - I was just kidding!

Hoosier/Home Place resident
You Be Illing

Marysville, OH

#44 Feb 10, 2008
Stuart Kinney wrote:
I apologize for the ending "You be Illing" - I was just kidding!
Hoosier/Home Place resident
hey Stuart Kinney, unlike a lot of people on here I HAVE a sense of humor.

I got the joke.

Roundabouts make my head hurt, as does needless, wasteful spending of MY and others hard earned money.
Stuart Kinney

Chicago, IL

#45 Feb 10, 2008
"Logansport Mayor Michael Fincher, whose city would lose more than $2.1 million in 2010 under the current plan, said he's considering such things as closing two of the city's three fire stations, charging for trash collection, eliminating school crossing guards and charging Little League and other groups that use the lights on ball diamonds."

Can Indiana afford Brainard's schemes, in light of this tax cut? Can America afford them in light of the stimulus package, recently approved?

Hoosier/Home Place resident
Craig

United States

#46 Feb 11, 2008
One day all this useless spending will catch up with Carmel...
Chuck Norris

Carmel, IN

#47 Feb 12, 2008
Good luck with all that construction.

Really.

Good luck.

Cause you're gonna need it.
Julie

Marysville, OH

#48 Feb 12, 2008
Craig wrote:
One day all this useless spending will catch up with Carmel...
Ah, but they will always have the statues and round-abouts to cure their ills.
Jen

Carmel, IN

#49 Jul 22, 2008
I agree that something needs to be done about 96th & Keystone, but I think a massive construction project and a roundabout are not the answers! Serious feasibility, environmental impact, and business impact studies need to be done. Has this happened? I don't think so, because I've heard nothing about them...and it sounds like many of you haven't, either. I want to know how this is going to affect the community, my pocketbook, the environment, the businesses in the area, and whether it has been proven by an unbiased outside agency to be the best solution.

As a Carmel resident, I can say from experience that people DO NOT know how to drive a roundabout, and that for those trying to enter one at a busy intersection, it's AWFUL!!! And how much busier can you get than 96th & Keystone?

I think Brainard is so enamored of roundabouts that he is blind to their shortcomings. Very blind.

And there are businesses at 96th/Keystone where there is no other easy way to get to them outside of the 96th & Keystone intersection. The years-long construction will do irreparable damage to them. Will Brainard compensate them for their loss in business? Oh, but those businesses part of Indianapolis. Why would Brainard care about disrupting business outside Carmel's city limits?

I can't believe Brainard is still in office. I really can't. How do the residents of Carmel justify keeping this guy around? Really? Please please please...someone vote him out and put a stop to the roundabout insanity.
Right On Sister

Marysville, OH

#50 Jul 22, 2008
Jen wrote:
I agree that something needs to be done about 96th & Keystone, but I think a massive construction project and a roundabout are not the answers! Serious feasibility, environmental impact, and business impact studies need to be done. Has this happened? I don't think so, because I've heard nothing about them...and it sounds like many of you haven't, either. I want to know how this is going to affect the community, my pocketbook, the environment, the businesses in the area, and whether it has been proven by an unbiased outside agency to be the best solution.
As a Carmel resident, I can say from experience that people DO NOT know how to drive a roundabout, and that for those trying to enter one at a busy intersection, it's AWFUL!!! And how much busier can you get than 96th & Keystone?
I think Brainard is so enamored of roundabouts that he is blind to their shortcomings. Very blind.
And there are businesses at 96th/Keystone where there is no other easy way to get to them outside of the 96th & Keystone intersection. The years-long construction will do irreparable damage to them. Will Brainard compensate them for their loss in business? Oh, but those businesses part of Indianapolis. Why would Brainard care about disrupting business outside Carmel's city limits?
I can't believe Brainard is still in office. I really can't. How do the residents of Carmel justify keeping this guy around? Really? Please please please...someone vote him out and put a stop to the roundabout insanity.
You got that right! Carmel people are so blind, they can't see past their SUV's parked in their McMansion's driveways, can they?
jodyk

Indianapolis, IN

#51 Mar 3, 2009
In the shadow of Gramercy wrote:
This whole project is starting to sound like a bottomless money pit!
Living in this mess is a nightmare. 126th and 106th streets have been closed since early spring 2008 and there is no sign they will reopen anytime soon. All summer/fall with gas at $4 gal, we drove miles out of our way for simple city services. Now, Carmel is beginning 136th intersection, and messing around at 131st and Carmel Dr. Is this a huge plot to cut one side of town off from the other? Or is it cool that we have to drive thru Westfield to get back into Carmel? Maybe I should spend all my dollars in a town that has open streets....
LOVE EM

United States

#52 May 5, 2009
I love these roundabouts! It's easier to cross Keystone, and once they're all done, it will be easier to drive on Keystone through Carmel.

The only down side is that when traveling north, we'll just get backed up in Westfield, and when driving south, we'll get backed up at 96th Street. But at least we'll breeze through Carmel!
Sorgi Fan Club

United States

#53 May 5, 2009
LOVE EM wrote:
I love these roundabouts! It's easier to cross Keystone, and once they're all done, it will be easier to drive on Keystone through Carmel.
The only down side is that when traveling north, we'll just get backed up in Westfield, and when driving south, we'll get backed up at 96th Street. But at least we'll breeze through Carmel!
I personally can't stand roundabouts.
You think it will be easier, but it won't.
We have one in Columbus, and traffic backs up like you wouldn't believe.
I now avoid the area completely.
Westfield Willie

Indianapolis, IN

#54 May 5, 2009
LOVE EM wrote:
I love these roundabouts! It's easier to cross Keystone, and once they're all done, it will be easier to drive on Keystone through Carmel.
The only down side is that when traveling north, we'll just get backed up in Westfield, and when driving south, we'll get backed up at 96th Street. But at least we'll breeze through Carmel!
I'd like to thank the residents of Carmel for paying over $35 million (above the $90 mil.) to make my commute a little more enjoyable. Now there is no reason to stop in Carmel. Just zip down to Indy and back.
Carpe - Carmel Resident

Indianapolis, IN

#55 Apr 1, 2011
You Be Illing wrote:
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But,,,but,,,but-they HAVE to change it! Didn't you know the Carmel Residents are TOO BUSY to have to wait at stop lights? That's why MILLIONS of dollars (whose we still are not sure about) are being spent so they can get to their IMPORTANT places sooner!
Please don't be condescending based on a charicature of a town or its residents. You won't feel better about yourself by putting Carmel down. Roundabouts save fuel on a significant scale, in addition to time. The most compelling argument for roundabouts is one that I hadn't thought of until talking to a fireman who responds to accidents: Roundabouts cut fatalities down to near zero because all collisions are glancing blows at slow speed rather than light beating t-bones or head-on's.
There are challenges to raising the money, but Carmel will likely be partnering with the state to absorb the burden. I haven't yet enjoyed Lucas Oil Stadium, but chances are, those who have are doing so based on some of my money. I don't get to participate in lots of programs that use some of my money, but that's the reality of living outside of a vacuum. I guess, if folks are really bent about the roundabout, they have 2 options: don't use it, or don't pay taxes. I'm sure that type of righteous indignation will pay off eventually? Personally, I haven't found a good way to opt-out of citizenship in an a-la-carte fashion, but I'm open to suggestions that won't get me in trouble.

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