School bus driver fatally shot, young boy held hostage in Alabama

Jan 30, 2013 Full story: Washington Times 268

A six-year-old boy is still being held hostage at a house in Midland City, Alabama, after he was abducted yesterday by an elderly man who took the boy who fatally shot a school bus driver.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#187 Feb 1, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Bottom line...freedom of speech is a privilege, not a right.
Actually it's a right, but like every other right it can be restricted.
Lepor

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#188 Feb 1, 2013
The current argument against gun control, "criminals don't follow the rules" is a fairly weak argument.
That argument could be applied to any law.
Why do we have banking laws, the banks don't follow them anyway
Why do we have laws against murder? People still kill each other?
By that French guy's argument that criminals won't submit to backround checks, We should do away with all of our laws because criminals don't follow the law.
May I also point out that in a congressional hearing in 1999 ole Wayne came out FOR the backround check laws. Saying they were reasonable and would curb illegal gun purchases.
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#189 Feb 1, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it's a right, but like every other right it can be restricted.
It is restricted as we head towards tyranny. Restricted in protests as we are herded into pens. wha tis not restricted is pure arrogance spouted by much of the broadcast and media. and if were pure conservatism and pure libertarianism it would not be given much time at all. And it isn't. The ratings would be mammoth for real media stations and printed material with that. the elitists control this and you won't ever see it except for a couple of people allowed to spout off. Common sense foreign policy and freedom and less taxes would take hold if people were told about it and not told other things. So instead we get what we got.
makes me sick 2

La Follette, TN

#190 Feb 1, 2013
Bowman wrote:
<quoted text>
He is still being held hostage
Thank you very much. Could not hear an update this morning on the news.
Sure hope it turns out good for the young man, and again I thank you.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#191 Feb 1, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummmm, maybe because the constitution doesn't kill people?
Tell that to Hitler and the Kaiser.
Your Ex

United States

#192 Feb 1, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Bottom line- owning a gun is a privilege, not a right.
A 1000 despots and dictators over the last 300 years couldn't agree with you more.
Many would even say its a criminal act, with terminal repercussions.
Your Ex

United States

#193 Feb 1, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Guess Mrs. Lanza was happy her guns were in her house?
The guns should have stayed there and not massacred 20 children.
I guess it's all in who you feel should take
~Resonsibility~
For citizens actions
The citizens or the Govt't

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#194 Feb 1, 2013
Your Ex wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, a bit over the top.
But, if we're going to start looking for the potential of govt overreach, and the likelihood of a massive abuse of power by an unknown oversight agency,
Seems like a good place to start.
And while the idea has merit, in a "we've got to do something, for gods sake" kind of way, there's those other ammendment's, like the 4th and the 10th.
And I'm still wondering about Gramps M-1 from WW II. If there ever was paperwork, it's long gone. Is one of my families heirlooms about to become an unregistered assault weapon?
I hope not, although as an ACTUAL assault rifle, maybe it could be "grandfathered" (sorry) in? I have an ancient derringer belonging to a grandfather I wouldn't give up either, not that I'd ever fire it. It'd likely explode, especially with modern smokeless powder.

i want something done, but we have to make sure it's something that'll help, not just make politicians feel better.

Since: Dec 11

Point Pleasant, WV

#195 Feb 1, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously the gun laws in Chicago aren't strict enough. I've already laid out how they could address their murder problem; allowing MORE weapons isn't the answer.
The truth is you can't make the laws strict enough. We don't enforce the laws we have now. If you don't want as many guns on the street increase the cost of gun ownership. Tax guns and ammuition so heavily that they aren't as easy to obtain financially..(This coming from someone who thinks taxes are way too high now). Keep the cost of hunting ammo relatively low.
By raising the cost of guns being sold you will increase the value of guns already held. It certainly limits the ability of every person to own a gun. You don't have to amend the constitution because citizens will still have the right to pen a weapon. They just may not be able to afford the luxury. Those that want the AR's for target practice then still have the right but just a more expensive hobby. Who could complain? Every AR and handgun in the country would immediately be more valuable.
Use the tax money gained through gun sales to pay off the debt. Win/win/win
Dickweed

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#196 Feb 1, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Tell that to Hitler and the Kaiser.
What?
So now we throw up Hitler's name without even trying to make some kind of connection?
Just say Hitler, and thast's the whole argument.
Sounds unbeatable to me. Way to go. You have really turnedthe tables on us now!?!?
Katie

London, KY

#197 Feb 1, 2013
From Kentucky, let me take his place.
Katie

London, KY

#198 Feb 1, 2013
Coal Trucker from Eastern KY, asking if this guy will take me and let the little boy go!!! Have much more media, if he would just take me and let the little boy go.. Please let the parents and police know, I will take the boys place.

Since: Dec 11

Point Pleasant, WV

#199 Feb 2, 2013
That's an honorable thing to offer but if he wanted a 49 year old woman he would have simply taken one.
YUT

Palm Desert, CA

#200 Feb 2, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
I bought a Walther P22 2 years ago. Extra clip and a laser attachment.
I had to go through a back ground check and had to wait 10 days.
I'm guessing you live in commiefornia different states have different laws about purchasing guns. California you have to go throu a FFL and have to wait 10 days it was originally brought into place as a "calm down" period in case a disgruntled person for whatever reason wants to purchase a firearm to go out and do harm to some one. Other states like Idaho you can buy a firearm from a private citizen and just need a hand written receipt proving the bill of sale and your good to go or if you go to a ffl they just take your info run a quick background check to make sure your not a felon and you walk out with your firearm that same day. Damn I miss Idaho....
YUT

Palm Desert, CA

#201 Feb 2, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
They can change whatever they want, but I don't own guns with military characteristics so I'm not worried.
Out of curiosity do you own a semi auto rifle? Even if it is just a 22lr? Look at frankensteins bill it says any semi auto with a pistol grip thumbhole style grip or any other sort of grip which also means your standard mini 14 varmint rifle or ruger 10/22 would be based in that category. If it has a way to be held it will become illegal. It doesn't have to be an "imitation military style" or however you worded it. It is a ban on all semi autos.
YUT

Palm Desert, CA

#202 Feb 2, 2013
Your Ex wrote:
<quoted text>
And I'm still wondering about Gramps M-1 from WW II. If there ever was paperwork, it's long gone. Is one of my families heirlooms about to become an unregistered assault weapon?

It depends what state your in if you want it registered to you just go to a FFL near you and ask what you need. Usually just a death certificate and sometimes a will will suffice. Any FFL near you will know your states current laws and will help you out
YUT

Palm Desert, CA

#203 Feb 2, 2013
anonymous411 wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth is you can't make the laws strict enough. We don't enforce the laws we have now. If you don't want as many guns on the street increase the cost of gun ownership. Tax guns and ammuition so heavily that they aren't as easy to obtain financially..(This coming from someone who thinks taxes are way too high now). Keep the cost of hunting ammo relatively low.
By raising the cost of guns being sold you will increase the value of guns already held. It certainly limits the ability of every person to own a gun. You don't have to amend the constitution because citizens will still have the right to pen a weapon. They just may not be able to afford the luxury. Those that want the AR's for target practice then still have the right but just a more expensive hobby. Who could complain? Every AR and handgun in the country would immediately be more valuable.
Use the tax money gained through gun sales to pay off the debt. Win/win/win
Your proposal is discrimination to the poor that want to protect their family and property. How about the wounded warrior that was severely injured protecting your rights and came home with injuries that are life altering and is unable to get a high paying job to pay for those taxes on the "assault" weapon he might want or the ammo for that firearm? You can just go tell him to go eff himself because he obviously doesn't deserve it because he can't pay those taxes and is barely able to get by on the low pay he has earned for willingly risk his life so you can debate this topic. After all as some sh**birds would say he's not that injured and what he did doesn't matter and the government is taking great care of him. Which is complete sarcasm by the way.(Sad some people do feel that way though) I can keep going on about my poor brothers and sisters that have been wounded or Kilo India Alpha doing a service for this country most people wouldn't even think about doing sorry for going off on a tangent but hope it helps with getting my point across

SEMPER FI

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#204 Feb 2, 2013
YUT wrote:
<quoted text>
Out of curiosity do you own a semi auto rifle? Even if it is just a 22lr? Look at frankensteins bill it says any semi auto with a pistol grip thumbhole style grip or any other sort of grip which also means your standard mini 14 varmint rifle or ruger 10/22 would be based in that category. If it has a way to be held it will become illegal. It doesn't have to be an "imitation military style" or however you worded it. It is a ban on all semi autos.
No, as you just said, it's a ban on semi-autos with a pistol grip or thumbhole style grip.

My 30-30s and 30-06s and .22s and other normal hunting rifles don't have those features.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#205 Feb 2, 2013
YUT wrote:
<quoted text>
Your proposal is discrimination to the poor that want to protect their family and property. How about the wounded warrior that was severely injured protecting your rights and came home with injuries that are life altering and is unable to get a high paying job to pay for those taxes on the "assault" weapon he might want or the ammo for that firearm? You can just go tell him to go eff himself because he obviously doesn't deserve it because he can't pay those taxes and is barely able to get by on the low pay he has earned for willingly risk his life so you can debate this topic. After all as some sh**birds would say he's not that injured and what he did doesn't matter and the government is taking great care of him. Which is complete sarcasm by the way.(Sad some people do feel that way though) I can keep going on about my poor brothers and sisters that have been wounded or Kilo India Alpha doing a service for this country most people wouldn't even think about doing sorry for going off on a tangent but hope it helps with getting my point across
SEMPER FI
As a 20 year combat veteran I can't afford a machine gun or a tank either. What's your point?
catbayou

Seymour, IN

#206 Feb 2, 2013
I also have been praying for the Lord to help the child and get him back to his parents. The man should have been arrested before he got the chance to hurt someone.
This mother is packn wrote:
I tell u, this little boy has been staying on my mind. I couldn't hardly sleep last night, turned on the tv soon as i woke up this morning, kept tv on at work praying for a update that he was released unharmed. I can't help but think of how scared he is, the thought of him just wanting his parents, his stuffed animals, his room, his little enviroment, is turned upside down. I pray to God that mr. Dykes lets him free.. He's only a sweet innocent baby that's only been in this world for six years, he didn't know harm, he didn't know anger, he didn't know evil. Just a baby that's all! He needs his momma, Daddy and family.
As a mother i grieve for the mother. I pray that God keeps his hands on u, and keeps u strong, and i pray u keep hope. My heart ways heavy emotions on this situation and its become a part of my every day thought, all day! Praying day in and day out. Chipley Florida

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