Stutzman proposes concealed weapon law

Feb 8, 2013 Full story: The Republic 403

A congressman from northeastern Indiana is sponsoring a bill that would allow people who legally carry a concealed weapon in their home state to do the same in other states that allow concealed weapons.

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Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#1 Feb 8, 2013
It will never pass. It makes to much sense.

What would help is if they would get rid of the local jurisdiction rules that make it impossible to know if you are legal or not in that little burg. Unless they post it at the limits of that jurisdiction - like speed limit signs.

When Indiana did the pre-emption there was to be blood on the streets (per the anti-gun advocates) much like the OK Corral but it never came to pass. It seems the bloodbaths mostly happen in the gun free zones.

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#2 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
It will never pass. It makes to much sense.
So the idiots that gave the pedophile George Zimmerman a gun after knocking his girlfriend around and an arrest for assault on a police officer are going to regulate rules in my state?

Don't think so.

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#3 Feb 8, 2013
Was Zimmerman convicted of child molestation, domestic battery or assault on a police officer? I can arrest you for anything I choose to. But if I can't show it probably happened (through probable cause to a DA) the charges are dropped. If I can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt it you are not guilty.

An arrest record means squat. It is the conviction that matters.

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#4 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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So the idiots that gave the pedophile George Zimmerman a gun after knocking his girlfriend around and an arrest for assault on a police officer are going to regulate rules in my state?
Don't think so.
Florida is screwed up to begin with too just go to the Southern Poverty Law Center Website on and look at Florida besides a large entitlement Society and Section 8 Housing is everywhere.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-ma...

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#5 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
Was Zimmerman convicted of child molestation
Wipe your chin, dear.

Was Michael Jackson?

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#6 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
An arrest record means squat. It is the conviction that matters.
You mean the drug rehab the pedophile agree to go throw to have his felon arrest record reduced to a misdemeanor and then expunged means squat?

You dumb dultz... it means the pedophile has a propensity for violence.

And you aren't going to be able to find jurors who didn't know he was arrested.

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#8 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
I can arrest you for anything I choose to.
Actually, ya can't. You have to have probable cause.

And of course the pedophile actually did commit battery, even if he was able to plea bargain (connections help) it to being forced into drug rehab.

It's like your hero Rush Limpballs pretending he doesn't use drugs...

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Anderson, IN

#10 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Wipe your chin, dear.
Was Michael Jackson?
Apparently GZ wasn't convicted or you would have said "Yes." No need to wipe my chin but thanks for your concern.

Michael Jackson wasn't either so legally he wasn't a child molester.

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#11 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You mean the drug rehab the pedophile agree to go throw to have his felon arrest record reduced to a misdemeanor and then expunged means squat?
You dumb dultz... it means the pedophile has a propensity for violence.
And you aren't going to be able to find jurors who didn't know he was arrested.
Expunged means it didn't happen "Process by which record of criminal conviction is destroyed or sealed from the state or Federal repository." (Black's Law Dictionary, p. 582 (6th ed.).

Jurors would probably be told to not take any previous record into account. They would be there to judge the criminal action at hand. Now in a civil trail it would be a free for all.

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#12 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Actually, ya can't. You have to have probable cause.
And of course the pedophile actually did commit battery, even if he was able to plea bargain (connections help) it to being forced into drug rehab.
It's like your hero Rush Limpballs pretending he doesn't use drugs...
Actually I could. Arrest is made and if I can convince a DA the offense PROBABLY happend (based on my probable cause) charges are filed (arrest and filing are two separate occurences). If I can't convince the DA charges are dropped.

No charges about GZ carrying a firearm have come up so he carried legally. Any charges were gone or Florida dropped the ball and didn't revoke his license.

But this thread is about reciprocity of CCW/CHL in all states that issue licenses to their residents. Currently all but Illinois do and the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals said the state was wrong in not issuing them. Domestic battery, child molestation, GZ & MJ are discussed at length on other threads.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#13 Feb 8, 2013
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#14 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently GZ wasn't convicted
Have you stopped molesting children, yes or no?

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#15 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
<quoted text>Actually I could. Arrest is made and if I can convince a DA the offense PROBABLY.
Actually, you can't.

See how quickly you moved to what I said: probable cause.

Funny how that is.

Have you stopped molesting young children- yes or no?

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#16 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
Expunged means it didn't happen .
Nope.

If it didn't happen, then the pedophile zimmerman could go to the court and say that he never assaulted the police officer.

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#17 Feb 8, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
No charges about GZ carrying a firearm have come up so
The pedophile wasn't charged with carrying a weapon.

You should check your sources before posting here.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#19 Feb 8, 2013
Excellent idea!! It would be nice to have reciprocity with ALL states. My self defense should NOT have boundaries attached to it.

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#20 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Have you stopped molesting children, yes or no?
That is not a yes or no question. How can one answer that way when they never have done that?

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#21 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Actually, you can't.
See how quickly you moved to what I said: probable cause.
Funny how that is.
Have you stopped molesting young children- yes or no?
Do you actually believe you can't be arrested on drummed up or very shaky probable cause? If you do you are in a dream world. Many times arrests are made knowing the PC won't get past the DA but it removes an actor from a scene for several hours.

If you read my post in response to your original post about GZ you will see I mentioned probable cause. Your reading comprehension skills haven't improved at all have they?

Again, you are asking a question that doesn't work with the response you are trying to demand. If a person has never done anything they can't say they have or stopped anything.

Try to stay on topic - nationwide acceptance of CCW/CHL in every state that issues them. Just like operator's licenses, marriage licenses, et al. You have no fears though, Barry will never sign it. Unless it is attached to something he really wants like the credit card bill he signed in 2009.

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#22 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The pedophile wasn't charged with carrying a weapon.
You should check your sources before posting here.
Did I say GZ was charged with a weapon crime? Again, reading comprehension is a wonderful thing. You keep refering to him as a pedophile. Can you cite a conviction?

Since: Nov 11

Anderson, IN

#23 Feb 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Nope.
If it didn't happen, then the pedophile zimmerman could go to the court and say that he never assaulted the police officer.
Reread the definition of expunged.

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