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IRS broke law when failing to report destroyed emails: archivist

There are 369 comments on the New York Daily News story from Jun 25, 2014, titled IRS broke law when failing to report destroyed emails: archivist. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

The IRS did not follow the law when it failed to report the destruction of e-mails belonging to an official at the center of the scandal over the targeting Tea Party groups, U.S. archivist David Ferriero said Tuesday.

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“My Commander-in-Chi ef!”

Since: Jun 07

Obama got Osama!

#1 Jun 25, 2014
Nobody cares... this is a non-issue that the tea-baggers are desperately trying to make a scandal out of. what time does the game come on?

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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#2 Jun 25, 2014
Patty has a point, nobody in the Obama administration cares if the IRS broke the law. Laws are for less important people.

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#3 Jun 25, 2014
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Nobody cares... this is a non-issue that the tea-baggers are desperately trying to make a scandal out of. what time does the game come on?
IRS agrees to $50,000 settlement in leaking of conservative group's donor records

Since: Sep 07

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#4 Jun 25, 2014
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Nobody cares... this is a non-issue that the tea-baggers are desperately trying to make a scandal out of. what time does the game come on?
current law says all taxpayers are required to maintain a record of all their tax returns for at least 7 years?...following lerners example, we don't.

imagine the implication?

didn't pay my utility bills because I didn't receive the bill?
didn't pay my income tax because I didn't receive a notice?
didn't pay my parking ticket because I didn't receive a parking ticket?
etc. etc. etc.

I'm not held accountable because something was lost. yeah. that's a good one. like the irs is saying, it's not against the law. right? if I don't receive something, how can I know what I'm responsible for????

if I shoot somebody, it's not MY fault because the idiot walked in front of my gun. lol.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#5 Jun 25, 2014
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Nobody cares... this is a non-issue that the tea-baggers are desperately trying to make a scandal out of. what time does the game come on?
the IRS did not follow the law! period.

are you just a liar....or just willfully ignorant.....or both?

i vote for the latter, agnes.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#6 Jun 25, 2014
Smoking Gun in the IRS Scandal?

During questioning by House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Darrell Issa at his June 23, 2014 appearance and testimony, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen provided a startling revelation, one that could conceivably lead to the dam bursting in the IRS scandal. At the 2:21-2:28 mark of his testimony ( theblaze.com ), Koskinen said:

All emails are not official records under any official records Act, only emails are saved that reflect agency actions.

Emails are routed through and stored on email servers, the production and amassing of which are ordinarily stored in bits and bytes on redundant hard drives until queried by a human and only then printed, assuming they meet a specific search criteria. In this case, however, there is likely no combination of search terms that would or would not conclusively identify any particular email as reflecting agency action and therefore, be retained. Owing to the unlikelihood of search terms positively identifying each and every agency action-related email and thus, separating it from the chaff would, by definition, require human intervention and review. Absent the same, the possibility that agency action emails might be improperly purged is unacceptably high… even in government circles.

What this suggests is that all IRS-generated emails are, in addition to their electronic versions, simultaneously or soon thereafter produced as hard copies. IRS rules make clear that reducing emails to hard copies is required. From these, the reviewer(s) then determine whether or not the email was agency action-related and therefore, retained or conversely, removed from the system. Of course, and assuming malevolent motivations and intentions, such a review system likewise makes it possible to identify and purge all potentially damaging and incriminating emails as well. Koskinen’s above statement, coupled with the utterly ridiculous notion that the emails of seven IRS personnel potentially implicated in the scandal have been lost forever, strains credulity, never mind common sense.

As a consequence of Koskinen’s utterance, Chairman Issa and those committee members committed to finding the truth underlying the IRS scandal should immediately identify, subpoena, and compel the testimony of the IRS email review team member(s), as well as acquiring all documentation and directives controlling the conduct of the review member(s). In doing so, the committee, as well as the American public, might then learn the lengths to which this seemingly rogue agency will go in order to protect and shield themselves and possibly, those higher up who may likewise be complicit in the cover-up.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/s...

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#7 Jun 25, 2014
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Nobody cares... this is a non-issue that the tea-baggers are desperately trying to make a scandal out of. what time does the game come on?
One from a *Patriot* poster on another board :)

Cordwainer Trout
Shepherdsville, KY

Here's your intelligent, undeniable commentary...

Fast & Furious..........lies and cover up.
Benghazi…………………………lies and cover up.
NSA Spying…………………………lies and cover up.
AP Phone Record Scandal…………lies and cover up.
Eric Holder Perjury……………………lies and cover up.
IRS Targeting…………………………lies and cover up.
IRS E-mails lost…………………………lies and cover up.
VA Scandal…………………………lies and cover up.
Solyndra…………………………failure.
Libya…………………………failure.
Ukraine…………………………failure.
Egypt…………………………failure.
Arab Spring…………………………failure.
Bring Back Our Girls Hash Tag…..failure.
Bergdahl Terrorist Swap……………failure.
Iraq…………………………failure.
Syria…………………………failure.
Economy…………………………failure.
Education…………………………failure.
Race Relations…………………………failure.
Energy Independence………………failure.
Green Energy…………………………failure.
Employment…………………………failure.
Transparency…………………………failure.
Immigration…………………………failure.
Border Security………………………failure.
Obamacare…………………………FAILURE
straw grasping teabaggers

United States

#8 Jun 25, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>One from a *Patriot* poster on another board :)
Cordwainer Trout
Shepherdsville, KY
Here's your intelligent, undeniable commentary...
Fast & Furious..........lies and cover up.
Benghazi…………………………lies and cover up.
NSA Spying…………………………lies and cover up.
AP Phone Record Scandal…………lies and cover up.
Eric Holder Perjury……………………lies and cover up.
IRS Targeting…………………………lies and cover up.
IRS E-mails lost…………………………lies and cover up.
VA Scandal…………………………lies and cover up.
Solyndra…………………………failure.
Libya…………………………failure.
Ukraine…………………………failure.
Egypt…………………………failure.
Arab Spring…………………………failure.
Bring Back Our Girls Hash Tag…..failure.
Bergdahl Terrorist Swap……………failure.
Iraq…………………………failure.
Syria…………………………failure.
Economy…………………………failure.
Education…………………………failure.
Race Relations…………………………failure.
Energy Independence………………failure.
Green Energy…………………………failure.
Employment…………………………failure.
Transparency…………………………failure.
Immigration…………………………failure.
Border Security………………………failure.
Obamacare…………………………FAILURE
Conservative attempts to take down this President = FAILURE.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#9 Jun 25, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>One from a *Patriot* poster on another board :)
Cordwainer Trout
Shepherdsville, KY
Here's your intelligent, undeniable commentary...
Fast & Furious..........lies and cover up.
Benghazi…………………………lies and cover up.
NSA Spying…………………………lies and cover up.
AP Phone Record Scandal…………lies and cover up.
Eric Holder Perjury……………………lies and cover up.
IRS Targeting…………………………lies and cover up.
IRS E-mails lost…………………………lies and cover up.
VA Scandal…………………………lies and cover up.
Solyndra…………………………failure.
Libya…………………………failure.
Ukraine…………………………failure.
Egypt…………………………failure.
Arab Spring…………………………failure.
Bring Back Our Girls Hash Tag…..failure.
Bergdahl Terrorist Swap……………failure.
Iraq…………………………failure.
Syria…………………………failure.
Economy…………………………failure.
Education…………………………failure.
Race Relations…………………………failure.
Energy Independence………………failure.
Green Energy…………………………failure.
Employment…………………………failure.
Transparency…………………………failure.
Immigration…………………………failure.
Border Security………………………failure.
Obamacare…………………………FAILURE
No one needs to take down Obama, he's doing it all by himself

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#10 Jun 25, 2014
straw grasping teabaggers wrote:
<quoted text>
Conservative attempts to take down this President = FAILURE.
Top Obama, Clinton Donor Charged With Multiple Fraud ...

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Judicial Watch • Top Obama, Clinton Donor Charged With Multiple Fraud. Top Obama,...(Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton among them)...
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Another Clinton Donor Charged With Serious Crime ...

www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2008/04/another-cl... ...

A Texas oilman accused of defrauding a foreign government is the latest—and at least the fourth—major Hillary Clinton fundraiser charged or convicted with a ...
the Light

El Paso, TX

#11 Jun 25, 2014
DEMOCRATS HAVE SHOWN THEIR DISREGARD FOR THE LAW WITH EVERYTHING! Name something that was law abiding.Obama is the only President in history to blame everything on his predecessor, because he doesn't know how to take responsibility or make a decision.The next 5 Presidents will be cleaning up Obama's mess!
the Light

El Paso, TX

#12 Jun 25, 2014
Of course IRS broke the law,although nothing will be down about it,,
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#13 Jun 25, 2014
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Nobody cares... this is a non-issue that the tea-baggers are desperately trying to make a scandal out of. what time does the game come on?
Non-issue??? Beginning with people being unusually audited and/or scrutinized now you have the unwarranted destruction of records that are part of a probable criminal investigation???

There's a reason the they say things like 'retired" or "recycled" instead of "we threw them out" because 'throwing them out' is a flat out admission they disposed of evidence, requested evidence at that.

They always say the cover-up and/or lying is what gets many. If the IRS and plotters had taken their lumps a year or two ago this would be a non issue now. Instead they can be nailed for discriminating/targeting certain groups and obstruction of justice.

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#14 Jun 25, 2014
the Light wrote:
DEMOCRATS HAVE SHOWN THEIR DISREGARD FOR THE LAW WITH EVERYTHING! Name something that was law abiding.Obama is the only President in history to blame everything on his predecessor, because he doesn't know how to take responsibility or make a decision.The next 5 Presidents will be cleaning up Obama's mess!
Chuck Todd mocks IRS Scandal:'Are There Any Actual Real Victims?'... Just America and the constitution moron..........typical commiecrat. Fraud and restricting voting rights are against the law. Of course liberals don't care about the law.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#15 Jun 25, 2014
The entire Obama administration is corrupt, refusing to follow the law, even targeting American citizens for harassment and outright persecution even, when the fancy strikes, death.
It's not just the IRS. It's also the NSA, the VA, the EPA, the State Department, the Justice Department, as well as the Oval Office.

It's about time that Congress defend the people that they represent.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#16 Jun 25, 2014
In a nutshell, Obama sucks. He made the IRS do wrong.
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It's simple.
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He should go to jail eventually.
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I'm very sure of that.

“ LIBERALS WILL ALWAYS ROOT FOR”

Since: Mar 09

ANARCHY AND ANTI-AMERICANISM

#17 Jun 25, 2014
The IRS is just an arm of the DEMocrat party. Theyre both corrupt and they both rip off the taxpayers.

DISBAND THE IRS!
Cat74

Des Plaines, IL

#18 Jun 25, 2014
The plot thickens. If these sleezy people were Republicans the Democrats would already have them drawn, and quartered. But because we, for some reason, expect Democrats to be Godless, and lawless we just sit, and do nothing.

Since: Feb 11

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#21 Jun 26, 2014
Righteous wrote:
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FIFY.......... COWARD.......... deserter..........
George Bush.

Of course, at least George Bush served before deserting.

You never served.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#22 Jun 26, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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George Bush.
Of course, at least George Bush served before deserting.
You never served.
Why evil like you are part of America is/are constantly given chances is insane. Previous administrations are rotten. Current ones are gracious and ugly. And you are an evil person no matter what is considered normal.

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