Gabrielle Giffords to testify in support of Washington state background check bill

Jan 27, 2014 Full story: KTAR 157

Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona will be in Olympia to testify in favor of an initiative to require universal background checks on all firearm sales in Washington state.

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“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#1 Jan 27, 2014
Ashamed that this traitor 'represented' Arizona. But despite the tragedy that happened to her, committing treason will not make things better. This woman should be ashamed of herself.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#4 Jan 27, 2014
2ndAmrght wrote:
<quoted text>
your mom should be ashamed of her bestiality habit... have you told her so?
Unlike yours, my mom never had that problem.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#5 Jan 27, 2014
2ndAmrght wrote:
<quoted text>
what about your mom and bestiality? are you proud?
Unlike your mom, mine never had a problem like that.
Common sense from London

Europe

#6 Jan 27, 2014
Enough is enough. Shes right, time for you guys to move on, but the brainwashed sheeple and the lobbies wont allow it.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#8 Jan 27, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Enough is enough. Shes right, time for you guys to move on, but the brainwashed sheeple and the lobbies wont allow it.
And become totally disarmed as you Brits are?
Common sense from London

Europe

#9 Jan 27, 2014
Personally I dont give a damn whos better or where you come from, I judge a person by his personality, not from his background even if he came from Mars.
The specific fact has to do with the number of people who drop dead by mistake or by some loony, and the annual number is huge, wanna count the innocent ones?
No offense but Europe is more cultivated in general, it has left the death penalty back ages ago.
And you know what?
A single man dies from a gunshot and it's considered NEWS in major channel media all over Europe! Got that?
Thats the difference, Im talking about human lives. Whats more important?

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11 Jan 27, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Personally I dont give a damn whos better or where you come from, I judge a person by his personality, not from his background even if he came from Mars.
The specific fact has to do with the number of people who drop dead by mistake or by some loony, and the annual number is huge, wanna count the innocent ones?
No offense but Europe is more cultivated in general, it has left the death penalty back ages ago.
And you know what?
A single man dies from a gunshot and it's considered NEWS in major channel media all over Europe! Got that?
Thats the difference, Im talking about human lives. Whats more important?
Guess you don't remember Adolph Hitler? There were more innocents slaughtered in a very short period of time. Then there have been in ALL of American history. And then of course there's Stalin. Need I go farther?

And who helped SAVE Europe - TWICE last century? You have no room to be casting disparaging remarks about the United States.
Common sense from London

Europe

#12 Jan 27, 2014
Wow shall we stick to the point overpatriots?

1) Statistics please. And arguments that refer to-day and not when things were totally different 80 and 90 years ago.

2) Is Gabbie right? And if not, WHY?

I dont wanna hear some 2nd amendment bull, wanna hear real arguments why thousands of people die every year in the "land of the free".

And Im not a subject Mr America, you got it wrong. No queen dictates me.

From wiki:
Only in 2010, there were 19392 firearm related suicides, and 11,078 firearm related homicides.
Google this: "U.S. Has More Guns – And Gun Deaths – Than Any Other Country, Study Finds"

Gotta be proud huh?
Anyway lets stick to the subject. If you wanna create another thread for triumphs go ahead and do it.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#15 Jan 28, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Wow shall we stick to the point overpatriots?
1) Statistics please. And arguments that refer to-day and not when things were totally different 80 and 90 years ago.
2) Is Gabbie right? And if not, WHY?
I dont wanna hear some 2nd amendment bull, wanna hear real arguments why thousands of people die every year in the "land of the free".
And Im not a subject Mr America, you got it wrong. No queen dictates me.
From wiki:
Only in 2010, there were 19392 firearm related suicides, and 11,078 firearm related homicides.
Google this: "U.S. Has More Guns – And Gun Deaths – Than Any Other Country, Study Finds"
Gotta be proud huh?
Anyway lets stick to the subject. If you wanna create another thread for triumphs go ahead and do it.
Well lets see. The U.S.A.= the most powerful superpower the world has EVER known. You are not. Looks like we are doing something right that your not. you STILL have a royal family and still support their lavish lifestyle on the backs of the people. I would say yes they dictate you. As far as history being brought up, those who don't remember it are doomed to repeat it. Ha ha ha. Now don't you have to practice bowing before your queen?

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#16 Jan 28, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Wow shall we stick to the point overpatriots?
1) Statistics please. And arguments that refer to-day and not when things were totally different 80 and 90 years ago.
2) Is Gabbie right (she's a communist bitch)? And if not, WHY?
I dont wanna hear some 2nd amendment bull, wanna hear real arguments why thousands of people die every year in the "land of the free".
And Im not a subject Mr America, you got it wrong. No queen dictates me.
From wiki:
Only in 2010, there were 19392 firearm related suicides, and 11,078 firearm related homicides.
Google this: "U.S. Has More Guns – And Gun Deaths – Than Any Other Country, Study Finds"
Gotta be proud huh?
Anyway lets stick to the subject. If you wanna create another thread for triumphs go ahead and do it.
LIAR !

In Communist Europe, murder is carried-out by being clubbed to death. Try again to make us believe the crime of murder doesn't exist in Europe. And what were the crime rates before England banned guns, commie ?

Google this: Rwanda and Sierra Leone have FEW guns - and more gun deaths - than most countries.

Are you proud of the gun control in North Korea ?
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#18 Jan 28, 2014
For men this is a neck bow (from the head only) whilst women do a small curtsy.

On presentation to The Queen, the correct formal address is 'Your Majesty'.

The Royal Household aims to provide exceptional support and advice to The Queen, enabling her to serve the nation and its people. It employs approximately 1,200 staff, of whom approximately 450 are funded by the taxpayer.

On 1 April 2012 the arrangements for the funding of The Queen’s Official Duties changed. The new system of funding, referred to as the ‘Sovereign Grant’, replaces the Civil List and the three Grants-in-Aid (for Royal Travel, Communications and Information, and the Maintenance of the Royal Palaces) with a single, consolidated annual grant.

Buckingham Palace has 775 rooms. These include 19 State rooms, 52 Royal and guest bedrooms, 188 staff bedrooms, 92 offices and 78 bathrooms. In measurements, the building is 108 metres long across the front, 120 metres deep (including the central quadrangle) and 24 metres high.

For over five hundred years kings and queens have amassed collections of art and artefacts. Many of these items still exist today as part of the Royal Collection, the Royal Philatelic Collection, the Royal Archives and the Crown Jewels.

Some of these collections are held by the Sovereign in trust for the nation, whilst others are privately owned by the monarch.

The Queen is Sovereign of 15 Commonwealth realms in addition to the UK. She is also Head of the Commonwealth itself, a voluntary association of 54 independent countries.

The Duke of Edinburgh
The Prince of Wales
The Duchess of Cornwall
The Duke of Cambridge
The Duchess of Cambridge
Prince Harry
The Duke of York
The Earl of Wessex
The Countess of Wessex
The Princess Royal
The Duke of Gloucester
The Duchess of Gloucester
The Duke of Kent
The Duchess of Kent
Princess Alexandra
Prince and Princess Michael of Kent
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#19 Jan 28, 2014
The Queen is Head of State in the United Kingdom. As a constitutional monarch. She is also Fount of Justice, Head of the Armed Forces.

Taxpayers shelled out £202.4 million ($310.7 million) the previous year to fund the monarchy,

Once you factor in things like security detail and the cost of preparing for royal visits. The figure is about 200 million pounds, or $307 million.
cancer suxs

Owatonna, MN

#20 Jan 28, 2014
Mentally insane and ex-cons should not get to own guns. Also here I GOP idea....To vote a safe harmless thing they want back ground check and voter ID..To get gun they don't care who gets it or how..

INSANE
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#21 Jan 28, 2014
cancer suxs wrote:
Mentally insane and ex-cons should not get to own guns. Also here I GOP idea....To vote a safe harmless thing they want back ground check and voter ID..To get gun they don't care who gets it or how..
INSANE
Except they are the only ones with guns in gun control areas. Like drugs or any other banned item, criminals by definition break laws. Gun laws only affect the law abiding so you target the wrong group when passing "control" laws. All you do is make victims easy for the criminal. Even in tightly controlled prisons criminals rape, assault, and kill without weapons. If you can't "control" criminals there then what chance does the average citizen have on the street? From the beginning of human history the gun is proven to be the best invention for deterrent and defense from criminals so untill you come up with something better it will continue to be the best option for most.
Common sense from London

Europe

#22 Jan 28, 2014
Mr America:

Small world, I coincidentally happen to know some of the guys from the Public Display video you posted. This incident took place in Manchester where I was before I came to London, and you know what? I happen to agree with them. I am not a subject nor I support the so called head of state. I live in London but I wasnt born here, therefore I dont bow to anyone, ok TRAY?
And I dont give a flying fack about Piers, I agree with him about gun control but thats all there is. Shall we proceed now?

Mr TORY:

Did I say that crime does not exist in Europe? Of course crime exists everywhere, but this discussion is about guns, not about thefts or knives, dont try to avoid the obvious, you know the facts, youve seen how many times a common guy (not necessarily a loony) gets a gun and hell breaks loose.
You also mention Rwanda and Sierra Leone, I thought we were talking about civilized countries, not 3rd world ones. Try to make a serious comparison folk.

How about trying to change the mentality? Sounds utopia to you? Even policemen have a different mentality here, not all of them carry guns and they are very approachable and very very friendly unlike there. Exceptions exist everywhere but try to get this: In 2011 a criminal was shot by an officer after an arrest attempt in London and two years after we are still having arguments, whether this action was justifiable or not. Sounds more civilized doesnt it?

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#23 Jan 28, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Wow shall we stick to the point overpatriots?
1) Statistics please. And arguments that refer to-day and not when things were totally different 80 and 90 years ago.
2) Is Gabbie right? And if not, WHY?
I dont wanna hear some 2nd amendment bull, wanna hear real arguments why thousands of people die every year in the "land of the free".
And Im not a subject Mr America, you got it wrong. No queen dictates me.
From wiki:
Only in 2010, there were 19392 firearm related suicides, and 11,078 firearm related homicides.
Google this: "U.S. Has More Guns – And Gun Deaths – Than Any Other Country, Study Finds"
Gotta be proud huh?
Anyway lets stick to the subject. If you wanna create another thread for triumphs go ahead and do it.
MEANINGLESS:

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed."

Go spit shine your 'masters' boots. And watch some jihadists cut the head off another one of your citizens heads, COWARD.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#25 Jan 28, 2014
cancer suxs wrote:
Mentally insane and ex-cons should not get to own guns. Also here I GOP idea....To vote a safe harmless thing they want back ground check and voter ID..To get gun they don't care who gets it or how..
INSANE
FREE people own and carry firearms here in America, cowardly LIEberal demonrat.

"We condemn, and with arms in our hands,--a resource which Freemen will never part with,--we oppose the claim and exercise of unconstitutional powers"--Journals of the Continental Congress, Dec. 6, 1775.

Don't lie it? LEAVE.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#26 Jan 28, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Mr America:
Small world, I coincidentally happen to know some of the guys from the Public Display video you posted. This incident took place in Manchester where I was before I came to London, and you know what? I happen to agree with them. I am not a subject nor I support the so called head of state. I live in London but I wasnt born here, therefore I dont bow to anyone, ok TRAY?
And I dont give a flying fack about Piers, I agree with him about gun control but thats all there is. Shall we proceed now?
Mr TORY:
Did I say that crime does not exist in Europe? Of course crime exists everywhere, but this discussion is about guns, not about thefts or knives, dont try to avoid the obvious, you know the facts, youve seen how many times a common guy (not necessarily a loony) gets a gun and hell breaks loose.
You also mention Rwanda and Sierra Leone, I thought we were talking about civilized countries, not 3rd world ones. Try to make a serious comparison folk.
How about trying to change the mentality? Sounds utopia to you? Even policemen have a different mentality here, not all of them carry guns and they are very approachable and very very friendly unlike there. Exceptions exist everywhere but try to get this: In 2011 a criminal was shot by an officer after an arrest attempt in London and two years after we are still having arguments, whether this action was justifiable or not. Sounds more civilized doesnt it?
Joyce Lee Malcolm: Two Cautionary Tales of Gun Control

After a school massacre, the U.K. banned handguns in 1998. A decade later, handgun crime had doubled.

Americans are determined that massacres such as happened in Newtown, Conn., never happen again. But how? Many advocate more effective treatment of mentally-ill people or armed protection in so-called gun-free zones. Many others demand stricter control of firearms.

We aren't alone in facing this problem. Great Britain and Australia, for example, suffered mass shootings in the 1980s and 1990s. Both countries had very stringent gun laws when they occurred. Nevertheless, both decided that even stricter control of guns was the answer. Their experiences can be instructive....

...According to their study, the use of handguns rather than long guns (rifles and shotguns) went up sharply, but only one out of 117 gun homicides in the two years following the 1996 National Firearms Agreement used a registered gun. Suicides with firearms went down but suicides by other means went up. They reported "a modest reduction in the severity" of massacres (four or more indiscriminate homicides) in the five years since the government weapons buyback. These involved knives, gas and arson rather than firearms.

In 2008, the Australian Institute of Criminology reported a decrease of 9% in homicides and a one-third decrease in armed robbery since the 1990s, but an increase of over 40% in assaults and 20% in sexual assaults.

What to conclude? Strict gun laws in Great Britain and Australia haven't made their people noticeably safer, nor have they prevented massacres. The two major countries held up as models for the U.S. don't provide much evidence that strict gun laws will solve our problems.

Ms. Malcolm, a professor of law at George Mason University Law School,

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#27 Jan 28, 2014
2ndAmrght wrote:
<quoted text>
we are infringing on your "perceived rights" everyday in California and New York... and many other states... and as soon as HIllary becomes president, that will escalate big time...
Not for long, treasonous coward. And only in your dreams. The wicked witch of the east will NEVER fly her broom into the white house.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#29 Jan 28, 2014
Common sense from London wrote:
Mr TORY:
Did I say that crime does not exist in Europe? Of course crime exists everywhere, but this discussion is about guns, not about thefts or knives, dont try to avoid the obvious, you know the facts, youve seen how many times a common guy (not necessarily a loony) gets a gun and hell breaks loose ("hell breaks loose" because most are disarmed by law (gun free zones)).
You also mention Rwanda and Sierra Leone, I thought we were talking about civilized countries, not 3rd world ones. Try to make a serious comparison folk (why do you not care about peasants in violent countries ?).
How about trying to change the mentality? Sounds utopia to you? Even policemen have a different mentality here, not all of them carry guns and they are very approachable and very very friendly unlike there. Exceptions exist everywhere but try to get this: In 2011 a criminal was shot by an officer after an arrest attempt in London and two years after we are still having arguments, whether this action was justifiable or not. Sounds more civilized doesnt it?
Most gun crime is due to drug prohibition. But guns will still cause the fewest deaths.

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