Gay marriage

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman. Read more
Rico

Laguna Niguel, CA

#58851 Aug 16, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Tell the orderly to give you more meds.
Wow that was very intelligent answer, did you stay up all night playing with your dolly's to think of that witty response.? You better just stick to copying and pasting dumbass.

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Wasteys Mom

Schenectady, NY

#58852 Aug 16, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Tell the orderly to give you more meds.
That's no way to talk about your Mother.

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Rico

Laguna Niguel, CA

#58853 Aug 16, 2014
Cali Girl 2014 wrote:
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Says you.....It's very demeaning as
a woman.
Meaning as a women that is unattractive nobody ever look twice at.

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Frick-N-Fracks Mom

Schenectady, NY

#58854 Aug 16, 2014
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Not to worry,it's just "Stupid" Peter ! He has trouble admitting to the reality that it is no longer just a man and a women but now it's also a man and a man and a women and a women ! Legally speaking of course when it comes to marriage ! Stupid Peter,marriage equality is now a fact of life !
Its not nice to call people stupid. Your father and I raised you better than that!

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“don't tell me how”

Since: May 14

to live my life

#58855 Aug 16, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You bragged that you reported his posts and that they went "poof". That is why you use the name Poof, to harass Frankie and remind him you got him banned. It is your fault you Christian.
Lots of people report Flunkie, so whats your point? Rose has reported hundreds of posts

“don't tell me how”

Since: May 14

to live my life

#58856 Aug 16, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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DebraE is an Atheist Poop1. You are looking for allies in all the wrong places. Why don't you tell her what God's plan is for her life?
"...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee (Genesis 3:16)."
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;....(1 Cor. 11:3)."
"Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man (1 Cor. 11:9)."
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife.... Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husband in every thing (Eph. 5:22-24)."
LOL, I knew that , how does my faith have any affect on her? It does not, as I don't force it on any one.
Good Reverend

Anonymous Proxy

#58858 Aug 16, 2014
Parents alarmed about homosexual indoctrination laws

A raft of California laws either are or will eventually require all public school instruction and activities to positively portray transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality to children as young as kindergarten. Here's a summary of these laws:

AB 1266 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Jerry Brown in 2013, requires all K-12 public schools to permit biological boys in girls' restrooms, showers, clubs, and sports teams; and biological girls in boys' restrooms, showers, clubs, and sports teams. The "right" to violate these sexual boundaries is solely a self declaration of a different "gender identity."

Passed by the majority Democrats in the California Legislature, AB 1266 tramples parents' rights and invades the personal comfort zones of millions of California children for a handful of sexually confused children who need professional counseling. Not only is transsexuality unnatural and unhealthy, AB 1266 also opens the door to fraud because there are porn-influenced boys who will try to see girls partially or fully naked by declaring themselves "female" for the day.

AB 1266 mandates this agenda and permits this abuse, reading, "A pupil shall be permitted to participate in sex-segregated school programs and activities, including athletic teams and competitions, and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil's records."

SB 48 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Jerry Brown in 2011, mandates that children from kindergarten through 12th grade, in all "instruction in social sciences," admire "the role and contributions of...lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans." In January 2012, California public school districts must implement the new requirements of SB 48 through "supplemental materials" (i.e., handouts, homosexual biographies, classroom discussions, essays and other homework, outside speakers, videos, dramas, etc.); the printed textbooks will come in a few years. As a result of SB 48, all public school districts in California are under the following orders:

1) Textbooks and instructional materials must positively promote "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as "role" models;

2) Children as young as 6 years old will be taught to admire homosexuality, same-sex "marriages," bisexuality, and transsexuality (cross-dressing and "sex change" operations);

3) Children will be taught to support the political activism of so-called "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Questioning" (LGBTIQ) political groups, as the bill requires "particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society";

4) Teachers will be made to positively portray homosexuality, same-sex "marriages," bisexuality, and transsexuality, because to be silent can bring the charge of "reflecting adversely" or "promoting a discriminatory bias";

5) School boards will be required to select textbooks and other instructional materials that positively portray "LGBT" lifestyles, because to be silent on these subjects opens them up to charges of "reflecting adversely" or "promoting a discriminatory bias"; 6) Parents will not be notified, nor will they be able to exempt their children, from this new core curriculum.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#58859 Aug 16, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Don't expect honesty from Pietro Armando.
Don't expect truth from Rosie, she's afraid of the LKGB.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#58860 Aug 16, 2014
Terra Firma wrote:
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What a coincidence; so does discrimination against gays.
"Gays" are a late 19th century/early 20th century invention. Sorry no existence since the dawn of time here.

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Anonymous Proxy

#58861 Aug 16, 2014
SB 543 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2010, allows school staff to remove children -- aged 12 and up -- from government schools and taken off-campus for counseling sessions, without parental permission or involvement. The purpose is to permit pro-homosexuality teachers and administrators to remove sexually-confused children in 6th grade and up from campus and take them to pro-homosexuality counselors who will encourage them to embrace the homosexual lifestyle. Parents will never hear about it. The Democrat legislators who voted for it and the homosexual activists who sponsored it regard parents as the problem and parental rights as "a barrier." SB 543 author Mark Leno, a San Francisco Democrat and homosexual activist, wrote "this barrier is especially harmful to certain populations of youth including lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender youth."

ACR 82 (school or district option), approved by the California Legislature in 2010, creates de facto “morality-free zones” at participating schools (pre-kindergarten through public universities). Schools that become official “Discrimination-Free Zones” will "enact procedures" (including mandatory counseling) against students from pre-kindergarten on up who are accused of “hate,”“intolerance,” or “discrimination.” How? By peacefully speaking or writing against the unnatural lifestyles of "sexual orientation" (homosexuality and bisexuality) and "gender identity" (transsexuality and cross-dressing), which are included in this measure. This means students, teachers, and parents who visit campus, who speak up for man-woman marriage, biological gender differences, and Biblical values could be penalized.

SB 572 (teacher or school or district option), signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2009, establishes "Harvey Milk Day" in K-12 California public schools and community colleges. In classrooms, schools, and school districts that participate, children will now be taught to admire the life and values of late homosexual activist and teen predator Harvey Milk of San Francisco the month of May. According to the reputable biography, "The Mayor of Castro Street: The Life and Times of Harvey Milk" by Randy Shilts, Milk repeatedly engaged in adult-child sex, advocated for polygamous homosexual relationships, and told a very public lie because he thought it would get him ahead. Since SB 572 requires participating schools to make children perform "exercises remembering the life of Harvey Milk," kids could be taught to support and emulate these bad values.


SB 777 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007, prohibits all public school instruction and every school activity from “promoting a discriminatory bias” against (effectively requiring positive depictions of) transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality to schoolchildren as young as five years old. SB 777 means children will be taught their “gender” is a matter of choice. When fully implemented, SB 777 will affect everything on campus -- classroom instruction, instructional materials, textbooks, guest speakers, handouts, videos, sex education, drama, music, school assemblies, sports teams, homecoming games, school proms, school clubs, etc. There is no “opt out” for parents. Thus, curriculum and school activities must be positive about homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality, because to be silent could be deemed to be "promoting a discriminatory bias."

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Anonymous Proxy

#58862 Aug 16, 2014
AB 394 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007, effectively promotes transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual indoctrination of students, parents, and teachers via “anti-harassment” and “anti-discrimination” materials, to be publicized in classrooms and assemblies, posted on walls, incorporated into curricula on school websites, and distributed in handouts to take home.

SB 71 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Gray Davis in 2003 and implemented in 2008 through the new “sexual health” standards approved by appointees of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and State Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O’Connell, teaches children as young as 5th grade that any consensual sexual behavior is “safe” as long as you “protect” yourself with a condom, and teaches children that homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality is “normal.”

AB 1785 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Gray Davis in 2000, required the California State Board of Education to alter the state curriculum frameworks to include and require “human relations education” for children in K-12 public schools, with the aim of “fostering an appreciation of the diversity of California’s population and discouraging the development of discriminatory attitudes and practices,” according to the state legislative counsel’s digest. Unfortunately, the bill defined “culture” and “cultural diversity” to include an unnatural meaning of “sex” or “ gender”(redefined under Government Code, Section 12926(p) and (q), along with Penal Code, Section 422.56(c), producing an overly broad meaning that “includes a person's gender identity and gender related appearance and behavior whether or not stereotypically associated with the person's assigned sex at birth.”) and “sexual orientation”(which Penal Code, Section 422 also defines to include all virtually all aspects of homosexuality and bisexuality).

AB 1785 also required a course on pro-homosexuality-bisexuality- transsexuality “human relations” as a prerequisite for receiving a teaching credential to teach “limited-English-proficient pupils.” And AB 1785 requires public schools to report a new category called "hate-motivated incidents," which are not defined but declared to be "bigoted insults, taunts, or slurs, distributing or posting hate group literature or posters, defacing, removing, or destroying posted materials or announcements, posting or circulating demeaning jokes or leaflets." Unfortunately, the subjective meanings and lack of solid definitions mean peaceful speech or literature upholding marriage between one man and one woman, or explaining the documented health risks of homosexuality could be judged "bigoted" or "demeaning," and thus a reportable "hate-motivated incident" by pro-"LGBT" school administrators. See this news report to learn more about AB 1785.

AB 537 (mandatory), signed by Gov. Gray Davis in 1999, permits teachers and students to openly proclaim and display their homosexuality, bisexuality or transsexuality, even permitting cross-dressing teachers, school employees and student on campus, in classrooms, and in rest rooms. It’s all being done under the banner of “non-discrimination” on the basis of “sexual orientation”(in all its forms) and “gender”(however subjectively defined).

What’s more, beyond these school sexual indoctrination laws

1. There is no California statute prohibiting public school teachers from promoting any legal sexual lifestyle or sexual practice.

2. Schools can and do hold lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgend er “diversity day," "week" or "month.”

3. Schools can and many do permit the pro-“LGBT”“Day of Silence” every April.

4. Districts must permit “Gay-Straight Alliance” clubs on high school and junior high campuses. In California, there are more than 850 of these clubs, with a staff sponsor, promoting homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality on campus to the entire student body. In 2011, these "GSA" clubs sponsored "Harvey Milk Day" forced indoctrination.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#58865 Aug 16, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Not the least bit interested.
The LKGB might be reading this....I know you gotta play it safe.
The suffrage movement in the US probably really got started in the late 19th Century, but women had been around long before then.
Yep, women have been around long before then, as well as men, and guess what?..... they have sex to produce the next generation.
What do you get out of telling that lie? Even if it were true,
Nice disclaimer,..."Even if that were true"...... Which we both know it is......but you don't want to acknowledge anything that might jeopardize your rainbow club membership.
it's now the 21st Century, and has nothing to do with the issue one way or another.
Sure it does, it's the whole reason some folks want marriage redefined. They want the state not to treat them as individual men and women, like any other man or woman, but based on their self professed sexual identity label.
No, stupid, you attack a straw man.
I don't bring behaviors, feelings, and/mod attraction, or sexual identity, as part of my argument.
Sure you do......even when you mention "same sex couples", you imply a romantic sexual attraction between the two people of the same sex. Your icon is a rainbow flag. If not for sexual identity/same sex sexual behavior and attraction, you'd have no reason to advocate redefining marriage.
You are allowed to marry someone you don't even like.
Exactly, as long as they're are of age, able to consent, not to closely related by blood, and of the opposite sex. Quite simple actually.

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“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#58867 Aug 16, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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My ship pulled into port in SF during the summer of love. Found a cute hippy looking hooker and I asked her for some of that free love I've been hearing about. She said "Sure sailor boy. The love is free, but the sex will cost you twenty bucks." Ah good times. Talked her down to $15.
Did you tip her?

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KeepCalmNcarryON

Hemet, CA

#58868 Aug 16, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The LKGB might be reading this....I know you gotta play it safe.
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Yep, women have been around long before then, as well as men, and guess what?..... they have sex to produce the next generation.
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Nice disclaimer,..."Even if that were true"...... Which we both know it is......but you don't want to acknowledge anything that might jeopardize your rainbow club membership.
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Sure it does, it's the whole reason some folks want marriage redefined. They want the state not to treat them as individual men and women, like any other man or woman, but based on their self professed sexual identity label.
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Sure you do......even when you mention "same sex couples", you imply a romantic sexual attraction between the two people of the same sex. Your icon is a rainbow flag. If not for sexual identity/same sex sexual behavior and attraction, you'd have no reason to advocate redefining marriage.
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Exactly, as long as they're are of age, able to consent, not to closely related by blood, and of the opposite sex. Quite simple actually.
The "god of Israel" IS a FACADE to hide Human DEATH, VIOLENCE, PERVERSION,
IMPERFECTION.-This - is the STAIN of humanity. That you DENY it OR JUSTIFY it!!!
You go on with your Living Lie, because it denies the existence of consciousness
OR
attempts to limit its definition to something that is essentially dead.(without cause, reason, proof of existence, Demonic, mental illness,....Etc.).
Believe the HUMAN STAIN lie you live.

Believe Jesus WILL reward YOU for NOT taking responsibility for YOUR behavior.

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“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#58869 Aug 16, 2014
Bruno wrote:
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Can you please tell us how things began Reverand? give us your version!
Your question assumes facts not in evidence. You assume a beginning because you, like most everyone, are incapable of understanding that how we experience the flow of time here on the earth is not how the Universe experiences itself.

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“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#58870 Aug 16, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Reynolds has never been overturned and is often cited as authority by the present Supreme Court. In it the Court tells us straightforwardly the basis of laws prohibiting polygamy: moral disapproval.
“Polygamy has always been odious among the northern and western nations of Europe ... and from the earliest history of England polygamy has been treated as an offense against society.”
Moral disapproval is not a reason to deny marriage freedom.
And yet America is full of fascist authoritarians who want to micromanage all our lives. We even have some Gay Nazi's here in Topix that the normal gays refuse to confront for the sake of freedom and liberty.

Why gays remain silent when the Gay Nazi's advocate their fascist beliefs is very disturbing. The silence of gay people helps usher in the fascists.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#58871 Aug 16, 2014
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This involves logic, so it's a bit much for you, but you are making a circular argument, saying marriage is a union of husband and wife.
Logically, marriage is a union of husband and wife. A legally recognized union joining one man and one woman as husband and wife. It's a definitional statement.
The issue is changing the definition to include a unions of the couples of the same sex.
For what reason? What compelling state interest is there in "couples of the same sex"?
What you are doing is like going into an argument about legalizing pot saying we can't legalize pot because it's illegal.
Not once did I say pot wasn't pot. It definition remains the same, whether or not there's a compelling reason to legalize it, or decriminalize it, is a matter of debate. "Same sex marriage" is not, unlike pot in some states, illegal. It's simply not legally recognized as "marriage".
Don't, but it should also include unions of couples of the same sex.
What about throuples of the same sex? Throuples of he opposite sex? Plural marriage, poly, siblings?
The government has no business in our undies.
What exactly does that mean? The government has "has business in our undies" for all sorts of reasons, including, for example, paying for gynecological, and prostate exams.
What about people with both sets of genitals? Or people with indeterminate genitalia?
What about them? Legally, at some point, they have to be declared either male or female, usually at birth, or shortly there after.
Have you thought...oh, no, you haven't, it involves thinking.
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Okay Rosie, here's one for you. What about conjoined twins? Can they marry, and if so, is the state sanctioning plural marriage of a sort?

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Why do you have a problem with equal protection under the law?
Why do you confuse equality under law with equivalency under law?

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“THERE IS NO GOD”

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#58872 Aug 16, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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You're too kind. Wasted Water misses me too but too stuck up to say it. Ah good times.
Polygamy should be allowed.
Yeah, I am kinda kind. LOL!

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KeepCalmNcarryON

Hemet, CA

#58874 Aug 16, 2014
Bruno wrote:
Rev, you just can't trust greedy vote hungry polititians and their LGBT constituents (friends) anymore
There is only Neo Conservatism, its fascist agenda, its domination of all people and its lies.
EVEN the Big Bang creation of the finite universe story IS A LIE.
The Universe is infinite and we can't "see" that because we experience the same effects of gravitational lensing as has been observed in deep space. An infinite Universe is the most terrifying the in the world to Neo Conservatism. God is consciousness its self. Neo Conservativism
DENIES the existence of consciousness AND an infinite universe because the scientists already know there is infinite energy In the observable universe and they can't figure out HOW it exists because they CAN'T SEE through accumulated gravity that is causing their measurements to indicate tat the universe is finite, expanding and DYING. It isn't.
YOUR consciousness - It's a part of the infinite universe we just can't see right now AND that infinite energy we just won't acknowledge right now, Because - it looks a lot like God.
DID ANY of you know this? It's true. So ask yourself if you believe in
consciousness or if you even know what that is. The penalty for a wrong answer on this is EXTINCTION.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#58875 Aug 16, 2014
Frick-N-Frack wrote:
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Not to worry,it's just "Stupid" Peter ! He has trouble admitting to the reality that it is no longer just a man and a women but now it's also a man and a man and a women and a women ! Legally speaking of course when it comes to marriage ! Stupid Peter,marriage equality is now a fact of life !
Aw shuddup $3 Bill you,silly jackass ! How many straight,men do their wives and girlfriends,up the butt ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!

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