Gay marriage

There are 61362 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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#59017 Aug 17, 2014
sorry folks audio technical problems , we estimate that the problem will be resolved in about one hour..... drinks on the house

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....yet you seem fixed on the 19th century "discovery" of "homosexuality". Strange that no one thought to quantify, for lack of a better word at the moment, same sex sexual behavior/attraction before the Germans.


You don't seem to realize who has the fixation here, lying peter. Your semantics are showing again. Do you wish to obsess on same sex attractions before the Germans "discovered" it or just the more recent idea of homosexuality?

The American Indians spoke of the "Two Spirit" person who was carefully evaluated and encouraged to adopt the gender role that they preferred. These people were revered. Then along came the Europeans with their diseases and religions and killed 97% of the indigenous population.

The Mayans, Aztecs, Zapotecs etc., openly practiced homosexuality alongside heterosexuality very happily and peacefully until the Spanish came along and punished/killed those who dared try. Of course, the Spanish Inquisition was their big contribution to society.

In China the "Pleasures of the Bitten Peach" (same sex liason) was first known to be recorded about 600 BCE (not much recorded history before that). Japanese art depicts "shudo" or "nanshoku" in relation to Buddhism and *gasp* Samurai for over a thousand years.

So what's your pleasure (as if we didn't already know)? Maybe I could give you some links or would you prefer some of that artwork to look at and pretend to be appalled at dear self loathing peter;0)

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Sergeant at Arms

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#59021 Aug 17, 2014
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FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT TURN YOUR VOLUME ALL THE WAY UP.

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DANDY DEACON

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#59023 Aug 17, 2014
The second thing that happens when God abandons a culture is found in verse 26,“God gave them over to degrading passions...their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural...in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.” At the end of that verse,“Receiving in their persons the due penalty” is the diseases that come consequent to homosexual behavior. And as you know, they unleashed on the world the horror of AIDS.

But what it’s saying here is that when God abandons a nation or a culture under His wrath, there will be a sexual revolution followed by a homosexual revolution. And we are living in this very condition.

There’s a third step, verse 28,“God gave them over to a depraved mind,” that’s a mind that doesn’t function, that can’t think right. So life becomes filled with unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil, envy, murder, and we talked about that last week, the massive murder of millions and millions of unborn infants in the womb that is carried on in our country and around the world.

Also characteristic of this depraved mind is they become haters of God, haters of God. We’re living in the outpouring of the wrath of God in the category of His abandoning a culture, and we’re living in the sequence that is here--a sexual revolution, a homosexual revolution, a reprobate mind that unleashes everything, including murder on a massive scale, and hate toward God.

It was shocking to me a few weeks ago, as I said last Sunday, to see that these very things that God hates and that bring down God’s judgment were affirmed as part of the Democratic Party platform. Open sex with government-provided contraception, murder of babies in wombs, God left out of the platform, and homosexual behavior even, advocating homosexual marriage--an oxymoron, since that’s impossible.

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DANDY DEACON

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#59024 Aug 17, 2014
Now, all of a sudden, not only is this characteristic of our nation, but we now promote it. One of the parties, the Democratic Party, has now made Romans 1, the sins of Romans 1, their agenda. What God condemns, they affirm. What God punishes, they exalt. Shocking, really. The Democratic Party has become the anti-God party, the sin-promoting party. By the way, there are seventy-two million registered Democrats in this country who have identified themselves with that party and maybe they need to rethink that identification.

I know from last week’s message that there was some response from people who said,“Why are you getting political?”

Romans 1 is not politics. The Bible is not politics. This has nothing to do with politics. This has to do with speaking the Word of God through the culture in which we live. It has nothing to do with politics. It’s not about personalities; it’s about iniquity and judgment. And why do we say this? Because this must be recognized for what it is--sin, serious sin, damning sin, destructive sin.

You say,“Well, our society cultivates tolerance and you’re giving hate speech.” What I’m saying is not hate speech. What the Democratic Party is saying is hate speech because they must hate the homosexuals if they will allow them to go the direction they’re going, affirm that knowing that it will take them to hell. That’s hate speech. This is love speech. You either warn them or you affirm them. And Romans 1 warns them and any faithful Christian warns this is dangerous, this is deadly. It’s better to warn them than to affirm them. You might be the nice guy to affirm them, but that’s not love speech, that’s hate speech.

I want you to look at 1 Corinthians chapter 6, 1 Corinthians chapter 6. And what I’m going to do is just put you in touch with what the Word of God says so you’ll know the truth. The news is very bad, but the news can also be very good. Listen to this, 1 Corinthians 6:9,“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?” Do not be deceived by the propaganda by the media, by the films, the television programs--everything you’re exposed to--educators.“Do not be deceived; neither fornicators”...That’s people who engage in heterosexual sin...“nor idolaters”...And sexual sin and idolatry always historically have been connected...“nor adulterers”...That’s people who have relationships with other than their spouse...“nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the Kingdom of God.”

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DANDY DEACON

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#59025 Aug 17, 2014
We exist as a church to proclaim the Kingdom of God, is that true? We have been given the keys to the Kingdom of God. Jesus declared that to His apostles:“I give you the keys to the kingdom of God.” Our responsibility is to tell people about the Kingdom of God and who can be in the Kingdom of God and who is excluded from the Kingdom of God. That’s the ministry of the church; that’s what we do; that’s what every preacher must do. And I’m not the one who makes the terms. I am only the one responsible to God to proclaim what God has revealed. And I’m here to tell you that if you advocate a life of sexual sin, adultery, fornication, effeminateness, or homosexuality, you will not inherit the Kingdom of God. What that means is, you’re on your way to hell, not heaven. This is the spiritual kingdom of those who are in Christ. The church is made up of people who were like this. Please notice, here’s the good news, verse 11,“Such were some of you.”
That’s right, this is the church in Corinth. And what is the church made up of, all righteous people who have been righteous since they were born? No, there aren’t any--all sinners. The church is a collection of former fornicators, former idolaters, former adulterers, former effeminates, former thieves, former coveters, former extortioners, and former homosexuals.“Such were some of you.” That statement alone indicates this is not some genetic defect. You were this way. You aren’t anymore, any more than every other thing is to be genetically blamed. Do people fornicate because of some kind of genetic defect? Is that why they’re idolaters? Is that why they steal? Is that why they covet? Is that why they’re drunkards? Is that why they’re revilers and swindlers? If so, then we better have equal rights for all of them and let them all start lobby groups so that they can get us all to recognize that this is a genetic issue.

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DANDY DEACON

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#59026 Aug 17, 2014
“Such were some of you; but”...This is key...“you were...sanctified.” You know what that means?--separated from that sin, separated from that sin. People say,“Well, you know, if you’re homosexual, you know, you can’t really ever be changed.” That’s not what Scripture says. You were like this, but you are sanctified, you are separated from that behavior. It doesn’t just say you were justified, that’s forensic. I’m glad it doesn’t just say you were justified ’cause then people would say,“Yes, I am forgiven; the righteousness of Christ is imputed to me; I’m justified, but I still have the same sort of tendency.”
No, you were justified, but you were also washed and sanctified, changed, separated in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and that work is done by the Spirit of our God. This is the message that we want to give to the world: these are sins that send people to hell, and people who advocate these things and live these lifestyles will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and hell is forever. And we’re here in love to speak love speech and say you must escape the wrath to come by repenting and fleeing these sins, and you can be washed and transformed and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Through the years at Grace Church--and I’ve been here a long time, since 1969--this church has existed in a hotbed of homosexual activity in Southern California. And I’ve had my share of personal opportunity to meet people who have been washed and sanctified and justified. And some of them are sitting among you and you don’t even know that because they were saved from that, just as there are adulterers and swindlers and the rest that make up a redeemed congregation. I’ve had some incredible experiences. I can remember going down to a local hospital--a young man dying of AIDS; raised in a Christian family; rejected the gospel; lived twenty-plus years in a blatant, outrageous, homosexual lifestyle. The L.A. Police Department told me some years ago that the numbers of partners that active homosexuals have would be an average of about 500, some as many as a thousand--that kind of lifestyle.

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DANDY DEACON

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#59027 Aug 17, 2014
Take a 10 minute break 140 proof Holy Water on tap
1/2 price and Free popcorn.

For your entertainment crank up the volume..........

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DANDY DEACON

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#59028 Aug 17, 2014
uh where was i ? Oh yeah .......... This young man in his room was surrounded by these kinds of friends. He had called the church to say,“Could someone come?” He was dying and he was afraid to die. And he held my hand, and squeezed my hand, and I prayed that God would forgive him and save him, and he cried out to God and repented of his sin and pled with God to be merciful and gracious and save him. The same as David. And I prayed, and he was squeezing the life out of my hand.

And then when the prayer was over, he just looked still and he looked at the clock on the wall. And I said,“What are you looking at?”

He said,“I want to remember the time of my salvation.” And he lived for a few more weeks and all those people shunned him. I’ve seen that and not just once. And that’s why we’re here, to preach the message of deliverance to the people who are trapped in that horrible sin. I can’t imagine that somehow it could be illegal in the United States of America to speak in love to those people, and that some party in this country would adapt the tolerance of homosexuality as something they affirm. Unbelievable.

Well, you know, it’s being taught in public schools from the time children arrive there and through every form of media. Sinners coming together around a certain sin and demanding to have rights. I wonder why the murderers don’t do that, and the drug dealers, and the thieves, and the rapists. This kind of behavior is nothing more than the expression of sexual lust, twisted and uncontained. People who want to talk about why do people have this tendency and that. Simple--wretched heart, debased heart, evil heart taken down a path of destruction.

Best we can tell, there are about one percent of the population that are homosexual in their conduct. It’s not a genetic defect. But there are about one percent or maybe a little more who behave that way. You would think it was a lot more, wouldn’t you? There was a study of 518 mass murderers, mutilating kind of murderers--350 of them are homosexuals. One percent of the population and maybe seventy percent of those kinds of people--it unleashes a horrendous passion. It’s a deadly sin. And that’s just the physical part, to say nothing of the eternal reality. How could we not speak to this?

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DANDY DEACON

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#59029 Aug 17, 2014
Go with me back now to 1 Corinthians 6 for just a minute. In 1 Corinthians 6 we see these words that I just want to draw to your attention. You know the word “fornicator.” That’s porneia, from which the word “pornography” comes--idolaters. Because sexual sin was connected to idolatry, all the idol temples had priestesses that were nothing but prostitutes, and it was all mingled together. And you know what adultery is, having sex with someone other than your spouse. But take the word “effeminate” there. That’s the word malakos, malakos in the Greek. And it’s a technical word for a passive partner in a homosexual relationship. Effeminate doesn’t mean that you walk funny. It means you’re the passive partner in a homosexual relationship. In fact, the lexicons--and by the way, homosexuality has been around since the start. I mean, Genesis 19, a whole city of people in this sin, that God incinerated, and I’ll get to that in a minute. So it’s been around a long time; so there’s plenty of words to deal with this in the Old Testament and the New Testament. Malakos is a technical term for the passive partner in homosexual relationships. It actually came to refer to the male prostitute who offered himself anonymously for homosexual vice.“Such were some of you,” but you’re washed, sanctified, justified.

The word “homosexual” is arsenokoites. Koites is the word for “bed”; arseno is a term for “man,” going to bed with a man. That’s what it means. It means going to bed with a man. People who do that don’t inherit the Kingdom of God. They do not. First Timothy 1:9, realizing the fact that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, ungodly sinners; unholy, profane people who kill their fathers or mothers--murderers, immoral men, and homosexuals. The law of God, the law of God, is made to expose the lawless, rebellious, ungodly sinners; unholy, profane killers of their parents; murderers, immoral men, and homosexuals--that’s not a nice group to belong to. And they will not inherit the Kingdom of God because you have to turn from your sin, repent, confess, and beg for mercy.

How perverse is it that the major denominations, so-called Christian denominations in our country, affirm homosexuality, ordain homosexuals, ordain lesbians, marry men to men, and women to women. Even the Quakers, and I quote, say,“Homosexuality is no more deplorable than left-handedness.” The Episcopalians have led the parade with a well-known bishop for the whole of the United States of America, who is a sodomite. A local Methodist church not far from here, the pastor says,“A homosexual is welcome in this congregation, and will have all the rights and privileges.” That’s hate speech. If you love that man, you’ll confront his sin and tell him about the gospel so his soul can be saved.

There’s strong lobby against this teaching of Scripture. In fact, liberal theologians have suggested that Paul himself was a repressed homosexual, struggling with his sexual yearnings that never were resolved. He was a kind of a self-hating guy, and there’s even a denomination called The Metropolitan Community Church. At one time there were a hundred and ten of them, it’s a homosexual denomination and the leader, the guy that started it, a man named Troy Perry. I know Troy Perry. Some years ago I was invited by a national magazine to do an interview and a debate with Troy Perry. We went to an office building down in the Los Angeles area, and I was there to confront him and to discuss the idea of whether or not you could be a Christian and a practicing advocate of homosexuality as he is.

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#59030 Aug 17, 2014
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You don't seem to realize who has the fixation here, lying peter.
Ohhhhhh.....I know! It's you Debbie!
Your semantics are showing again. Do you wish to obsess on same sex attractions before the Germans "discovered" it or just the more recent idea of homosexuality?
Do you? After all, "gays and lesbians"....not lesbians as in Greeks from the isle of Lesbos, but he other kind, have even around since....well someone discovered them in the late 19th century early 20th century. Imagine if they had been discovered early...why the ancient Greeks, no stranger to SSSB, could have put rainbow stickers on their chariots!
The American Indians spoke of the "Two Spirit" person who was carefully evaluated and encouraged to adopt the gender role that they preferred. These people were revered. Then along came the Europeans with their diseases and religions and killed 97% of the indigenous population.
The natives also practiced polygamy too!
The Mayans, Aztecs, Zapotecs etc., openly practiced homosexuality alongside heterosexuality very happily and peacefully
".....very happily and peacefully"? Hmmmmmm....didn't they practice human sacrifice?
until the Spanish came along and punished/killed those who dared try. Of course, the Spanish Inquisition was their big contribution to society.
(Laughing) Oh but of course...those mean Spaniards! After all the Aztecs were such a peaceful people....never hurt anyone....how did they have time to...with all that "homosexuality" and "heterosexuality" being practiced...it's wonder they could even sit down.
In China the "Pleasures of the Bitten Peach" (same sex liason) was first known to be recorded about 600 BCE (not much recorded history before that). Japanese art depicts "shudo" or "nanshoku" in relation to Buddhism and *gasp* Samurai for over a thousand years.
Odd.....yet no mention of same sex marriage, let alone it sustaining itself over time and place. Let me guess, those pesky Spaniards again?
So what's your pleasure (as if we didn't already know)?
Awwwww....ya peeked at my picture! That's right...a nice bottle of vino, pesce, pasta, some Boccelli or Sinatra on the stereo, and my beautiful bride.afterwards some..romanza e' passione! That's Amore!
Maybe I could give you some links or would you prefer some of that artwork to look at and pretend to be appalled at dear self loathing peter;0)
Artwork?! Seeee....I knew Playboy was art work!

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#59031 Aug 17, 2014
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Yes. DebraE is extremely boring. Old wind bag.

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#59032 Aug 17, 2014
Verse 30 ends this section,“You keep My charge,” keep My commands.“Don’t practice any of the abominable customs which have been practiced before you, so as not to defile yourselves with them.” Why?“I am the Lord,” and verse 2,“You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy.” He’s saying to His people, you have to stand against this. It’s a shocking thing when this becomes the agenda to support.

Chapter 20 of Leviticus, chapter 20 and verse 13, and there are just--this is a hard section to read because it talks about so many ugly things: incest, adultery, all kinds of horrible things. Verse 13,“If there’s a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.” Remember, we said last week the murder of babies makes this land bloodguilty? Their blood cries out for punishment. Homosexuality makes this land bloodguilty.“Their blood guiltiness is on them.” They “have committed a detestable act; they surely shall be put to death.”

Well, you say,“That’s such a terrifying message.” And I say again, there’s still hope for them. Turn to Isaiah 56, and the only hope is in the Lord. Isaiah 56, verse 3,“Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say,‘The Lord will surely separate me from His people.’” In other words, I don’t have a chance. I’m an outsider.“Nor let the eunuch...the eunuch...say,‘Behold, I’m a dry tree.’” In other words, I have no hope.

Listen to this,“For thus says the Lord,‘To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose what pleases Me, and hold fast My covenant, to them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial...a name better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that will not be cut off.’”

What grace is that? This is the homosexual, who says--and maybe he’s even been castrated--“I’m a dry tree, I can’t ever have a future. I can’t have children.” Horrible. I don’t have a family. And the Lord says,“Hold My covenant fast, choose what pleases Me, and I’ll give you a place in My house, and in My walls I’ll raise a memorial to you and a name better than that of sons and daughters and give you an everlasting name which will never be cut off.” Play on words.

That’s the grace that God offers to those who turn from this sin. It’s important for you to know the dramatic account if you aren’t familiar with it already, in Genesis 19. So turn to it. God’s law is unchanging. God’s law is unchangeable. God’s attitude toward sin is the same. And if you want to see a picture of God’s attitude toward homosexuality and what’s going to happen when Romans 1 reaches its ultimate culmination and judgment comes, or when God does what He said He was going to do in the writings of Moses, to nations that are defiled, that He would bring about their spewing out, here’s an illustration.

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DANDY DEACON

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#59033 Aug 17, 2014
Genesis 19, way back in the beginning of human history, there’s a city called Sodom. By then homosexuality has spread everywhere. It didn’t take long. You had the Fall in chapter 3, and then you have the story of sexual sin that just goes raging through the rest of the book of Genesis. You have adultery, incest, rape, prostitution, homosexuality, and it just comes like crazy early on. And by the time you get to the nineteenth chapter of Genesis, you’ve got a city, Sodom; another city, Gomorrah--cites of the plain that are basically, literally defined by homosexuality so that the word Sodomite means homosexual. It’s that fast that this sin has taken off.

Two angels come to Sodom in the evening in human form, which angels can do and did in the Old Testament frequently. And Lot is sitting at the gate of Sodom. Lot’s living there. He chose to live there. So these angels show up, he rose to meet them, bowed down with his face to the ground. And he said,“Now behold, my lords, please turn aside into your servant’s house. Spend the night, wash your feet, then you may rise early and go on your way.” You’ve got to get in my house, get cleaned up, get up in the morning and get out of here.

“No, we shall spend the night in the square,” the angels say.” We’re just going to stay here in the square.“He urged them strongly,” verse 3, so they turned aside and entered his house; and he prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. They were real physical bodies that these angels had taken on, and he showed them this kindness. And he was really trying to protect them.

“Before they lay down,” verse 4 “the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter.” The whole place is caught up in sodomy--the whole place, young and old, from every part of town. They have just seen two beautiful men show up in town, and the word is going around town, and they’re ready for a mass rape. And they show up at Lot’s house. And they said,“Where,” verse 5,“are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.”

But they wanted to rape them, gang rape them. Lot went out to them at the doorway and shut the door behind him and said,“Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly”--“do not act wickedly.” And then he makes probably what he thought was a safe suggestion.“I have two daughters who haven’t had relationships with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, insomuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof.”

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DANDY DEACON

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#59037 Aug 17, 2014
Isaiah has another comment that I want to point you out to--point out to you--Isaiah 3. Here Isaiah is talking about God’s judgment coming. God’s judgment is coming and--on Judah, southern kingdom--and they’re very sinful. Verse 8 might be a place to start; well, verse 9; let’s start there,“The expression of their faces bears witness against them that they display their sin like Sodom.” In other words, they’re sinners and they’re blatantly sinners. Sodomites that assaulted Lot’s house were blatant in their sin. They do not even conceal it, he says, about Judah. It’s the same. Look at this nation, the same thing.“Woe to them! They brought evil on themselves. Say to the righteous...it will go well with them, for they’ll eat the fruit of their actions. Woe to the wicked! It will go badly with them, for what he deserves will be done to him. O My people! Their oppressors are children.”

In other words, even a child could overpower you, you’re so weak. Why?“Women rule over them.” Women rule over them? In the culture of the Old Testament, it could well be a sodomite. Sodomites in the government, homosexuals in rule.

I read an article two days ago on the rapidly growing number of homosexuals--open homosexuals--populating the United States Supreme Court. Not the judges, but the surrounding masses of people. In a book called The Gay Invasion, the reports are that, of course, we’ve had homosexuals in every presidential cabinet since Franklin Roosevelt, but never to the degree we do now, and being appointed as judges. In some cities they are the majority of leaders, by the way.

Isaiah knew sodomy was all around them, a part of life in Assyria, a part of life in Babylon, a part of life in Egypt. In fact there was much about homosexuality among the pharaohs. It took a while, it took about 150 years, but all of this kind of seeped in and what destroyed Sodom would destroy Judah. And later it would destroy Greece, and later it would destroy Rome. This is always a deadly sin, and always a defining sin, and always a damning sin.

In 1881 it was Sigmund Freud who came along and said,“Well, I’ve studied homosexual behavior and I’ve concluded it’s a psychological disorder that comes from a domineering mother.” The 1930s there was a man named Harlock Ellis who published a manual on this, bringing sodomy into the open, and he said,“It is a genius gene.” In other words, it’s a genetic gift that homosexuals are uniquely geniuses. And then he had a whole litany of supposed homosexuals from Erasmus, the Dutch humanist; and Christopher Marlowe, the English poet; Michelangelo; Lord Byron; Francis Bacon; Oscar Wilde; Walt Whitman, on and on and on. So for him it was an elevated human being in another level of genius.

It was in the forties and the fifties,[Alfred] Kinsey came along and fabricated lies saying one out of ten people in America were genetically homosexual. American Psychiatric Association declassified sodomy as a sickness, and now it’s not only acceptable, but it’s advocated. This is where we are and this is on the brink of judgment. This is on the brink of judgment.

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DANDY DEACON

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#59038 Aug 17, 2014
Now go back to Romans 1, verse 32, the end of all of this in this section is that although they know the ordinance of God--Is there anybody in doubt about what the Bible says? It’s clear. In this country we all know that, in the Western world. Although they know the ordinance of God that those who practice such things are worthy of death. I’ve just read that all to you, haven’t I?“They not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.” That’s the issue, folks. Why am I doing this now? Because an entire party in the United States has given hearty approval (suneudokeo). Eudokeo means “to agree with, to consent to, to be well-pleased, to think it is good.” Sun means “together with others.” Collectively this group has decided that this is good and they give hearty approval. No wonder they didn’t want God in their original platform. We have to speak the truth to rescue the perishing.

Turn to Psalm 107, and I’m going to close there--Psalm 107. Some years ago I was standing here at the beginning of the service, and I got up to read the Scripture, and this is what I read, starting at verse 4,“They wandered in the wilderness in a desert region; they didn’t find a way to an inhabited city. They were hungry and thirsty; their soul fainted within them. Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble; He delivered them out of their distresses. He led them also by a straight way, to ...an inhabited city. Let them give thanks to the Lord for His lovingkindness, and for His wonders to the sons of men! For He has satisfied the thirsty soul, and the hungry soul He has filled with what is good. There were those who dwelt in darkness and in the shadow of death, prisoners in misery and chains, because they had rebelled against the words of God and spurned the counsel of the Most High. Therefore He humbled their heart with labor; they stumbled there was none to help. Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble; He saved them out of their distresses. He brought them out of darkness and the shadow of death...broke their bands apart. Let them give thanks to the Lord for His lovingkindness, and for His wonders to the sons of men! For He has shattered gates of bronze and cut bars of iron asunder.” I read that.

After the service was over, a handsome, tall man, 6’ 3” or so, walked up to me. He’d been sitting right back there. His name was Robert Logerstrum. He was one of the directors of the gay pride parade in Los Angeles, lived completely consumed in a world of homosexuals, and was dying of AIDS.

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