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There are 64397 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

United States

#42017 Dec 15, 2013
Earthquakes deep below West Antarctica reveal an active volcano hidden beneath the massive ice sheet, researchers said today (Nov. 17) in a study published in the journal Nature Geoscience.

The discovery finally confirms long-held suspicions of volcanic activity concealed by the vast West Antarctic Ice Sheet. Several volcanoes poke up along the Antarctic coast and its offshore islands, such as Mount Erebus, but this is the first time anyone has caught magma in action far from the coast.

http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarct...

Hmmm... could the volcanoes under west Antarctica be causing ice sheets to melt?

Naw.... that's a natural process.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42018 Dec 15, 2013
Mothra wrote:

http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarct...
Hmmm... could the volcanoes under west Antarctica be causing ice sheets to melt?
Naw.... that's a natural process.
Hmmm... why didn't they ask one of the scientists?

Oh, they did:
"People hear the word 'volcano' and get caught up in the idea that it will change the way the ice sheet works, but this stuff has been going on underneath the ice [for millions of years], and the ice sheet is in balance with it," Lough said. "Everyday magmatism isn't enough to cause major problems."
Mothra

United States

#42019 Dec 16, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
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Hmmm... why didn't they ask one of the scientists?
Oh, they did:
<quoted text>
This is a new discovery... could there not be more volcanoes? More recent ones?

What? Don't know? Gee... still could be "nature" melting all that ice, couldn't it?

"There is certainly a need for more research, both in mapping the distribution and monitoring the activity level of subglacial volcanic activity beneath ice sheets, as well as studying the impact of subglacial volcanic activity on the hydrological system of glaciers and ice sheets,"

What's that? They don't know?

So how do you?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42020 Dec 16, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a new discovery... could there not be more volcanoes? More recent ones?
What? Don't know? Gee... still could be "nature" melting all that ice, couldn't it?
"There is certainly a need for more research, both in mapping the distribution and monitoring the activity level of subglacial volcanic activity beneath ice sheets, as well as studying the impact of subglacial volcanic activity on the hydrological system of glaciers and ice sheets,"
What's that? They don't know?
So how do you?
Well, the scientists who actually go there don't believe volcanoes are melting the ice. An troll on the internet sitting at home scratching his butt and making ignorant comments does.

Who to believe?
spike

Akron, OH

#42021 Dec 16, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm... why didn't they ask one of the scientists?
Oh, they did:
<quoted text>
who's paying the scientists?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42022 Dec 16, 2013
spike wrote:
<quoted text> who's paying the scientists?
Who's paying the deniers?

"Billionaire oilman David Koch used to joke that Koch Industries was "the biggest company you've never heard of." Now the shroud of secrecy has thankfully been lifted, revealing the $67 million that he and his brother Charles have quietly funneled to climate-denial front groups that are working to delay policies and regulations aimed at stopping global warming, most of which are part of the State Policy Network."

http://www.google.com/url...
litesong

Everett, WA

#42023 Dec 16, 2013
spike wrote:
who's paying the scientists?
...... not toxic topix AGW deniers who don't know science & mathematics, can't learn science & mathematics, can't do science & mathematics, & can't apply science & mathematics.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#42024 Dec 16, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
Capitalism works and has housed and feed and clothed more than all the other systems combined so FIX it! We can all agree on that I hope because we MUST evolve together.
There has never been unleashed capitalism. Our economy has worked because it is a mixed economy with the best application for the situation. Government oversight is always needed to prevent capitalism from destroying the society. The market is based upon the premise that humans are always logical. That of course is flawed as seen in the bubble burst of the housing market during the Bush Administration. Humans are emotional beings and greed drives the emotions of the market.
litesong

Everett, WA

#42025 Dec 16, 2013
motheaten wrote:
This is a new discovery...
....... that motheaten did NOT make, but motheaten is way ahead of scientists, applying magmas, & volcanic plumes as a toxic topix AGW denier ointments.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42026 Dec 16, 2013
spike wrote:
<quoted text> who's paying the scientists?
Gee, professor Einstupid, if it was the international communist conspiracy for world government through scientific fraud, do you think they would have discovered a volcano at the south pole for morons like motheaten to blame global warming on?
Mothra

United States

#42027 Dec 16, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the scientists who actually go there don't believe volcanoes are melting the ice.
Bullshyt!

Those scientists admit volcanoes ARE melting ice; they don't know how much. And those same scientists admit they don't know how many volcanoes there are.
Mothra

United States

#42028 Dec 16, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Who's paying the deniers?
Don't answer a question with a question. It's a pathetic argument.

Who's paying the scientists?

Perhaps that's one the best kept secrets of the warmists. Ever try finding the answer instead of popping off with a puerile, "Oh yeah, but what about...?"
Mothra

United States

#42029 Dec 16, 2013
litesong wrote:
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No day can pass without the useful idiot litesong proving once again he's a useful idiot.
Mothra

United States

#42030 Dec 16, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, professor Einstupid, if it was the international communist conspiracy for world government through scientific fraud, do you think they would have discovered a volcano at the south pole for morons like motheaten to blame global warming on?
Oh look... another warmist who can't answer the question, instead relying on insults to "prove" an argument.

Taking posting tips from litesong?
Progressive Cali Girl

Corona Del Mar, CA

#42031 Dec 16, 2013
We need to hire better quality climate change global warming experts. This is hurting our movement!

=========
Top climate change expert defrauded EPA out of $900K by claiming he was an undercover CIA agent so he didn't have to show up for work for MONTHS
John C. Beale was a high-profile policy advisory at the Environmental Protection Agency
Reported directly to Administrator Gina McCarthy during most of the 13 years of fraud
Claimed he was on covert assignments for CIA but really set home reading books or doing chores while earning $206,000 a year
Assertions that he had undercover CIA job was never checked out by EPA
Publicly retired and threw party for himself, but collected paychecks for another 18 months
Progressive Cali Girl

Corona Del Mar, CA

#42032 Dec 16, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
....... that motheaten did NOT make, but motheaten is way ahead of scientists, applying magmas, & volcanic plumes as a toxic topix AGW denier ointments.
koo koo

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#42033 Dec 16, 2013

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42034 Dec 16, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh look... another warmist who can't answer the question, instead relying on insults to "prove" an argument.
Taking posting tips from litesong?
Irony is wasted on the stupid.
Mothra

United States

#42035 Dec 16, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Irony is wasted on the stupid.
Ahh... more insults.

Run along, sonny.
Mothra

United States

#42036 Dec 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
"The Sierra Club director claimed the “science is settled” and that the only people still arguing against climate change are paid by the fossil fuel industry."

And who pays for the warmists funding? Don't ask them. They either don't know or won't tell.

Curious, isn't it? if funding source is a legitimate argument, why are not the warmists volunteering that information to show themselves above repute?

Funding is one of the favorite straw man arguments of the warmists.

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